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WTF Nikon?
Seriously, what is the matter with the decision makers at Nikon? Or is it that every Nikon shooter I personally know is just out to lunch? They spend gazillions on launching a new camera that nobody I know was asking for (the Df) and keep spitting out entry level yawners. BUT the body many, many of us have been salivating in anticipation for (D400) appears nowhere on the horizon. I finally broke down and bought a D7100 to have a DX body with better low light performance than my D300, and am thoroughly disappointed in it.
Maybe I (and everybody I know) am out of touch, but I just don't think they have a clue what will sell. I'm betting the Df won't. :dunno
Maybe I (and everybody I know) am out of touch, but I just don't think they have a clue what will sell. I'm betting the Df won't. :dunno
John :
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
Natural selection is responsible for every living thing that exists.
D3s, D500, D5300, and way more glass than the wife knows about.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Pssh, not for sports. 5D3 FTW.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
yes, they are clueless. Nikon and Canon stock has falling dramatically this year
today's Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304672404579183643696236868
I'm an old fart, too, but I love new technology (when it works). I think the DF and any of those replica looks are for the 'Yuppie' market, or whatever you call them nowadays.
Part of the reason that MANY people shoot Nikon is their affection for the traditions of photography in general. Using ancient lenses on modern cameras, just for fun. I don't know about you but I have always owned at least one or two AIS lenses that I have used regularly on my various Nikon bodies, just for fun. So personally, I'm ecstatic that Nikon has given us a simple FF DSLR with classic styling.
This is, in short, a camera for collectors and nostalgic hobbyists with money to spend. That may not be 95% of Nikon's regular mainstream customers, but they know that.
Other cameras will come. I too am pissed that we haven't seen a D400 yet. I'll be even more pissed if the D7100 turns out to be the D400, permanently. But the DF, to me, doesn't weigh into that equation at all. To me, the DF is a long-overdue homage to their rich history and their dedication to a single lens mount. :-)
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I've seen this statement being made very often online, and I don't understand how anybody, especially a middle-age or older adult, can claim this. Nikon isn't pandering to a recent hipster retro trend. They're proudly proclaiming, "Um, hello, we've been doing this mount for 50+ years, and we'd like to celebrate that rich history."
Honestly, if they wanted to attract hipsters, they would have made a far cheaper camera with the construction quality of a Holga; and a whole new mount that only accepts lensbabies. ;-)
=Matt=
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Yes, the 5D mk3 is currently the champion of versatility, from weddings to wildlife. It has the AF system and resolution that I wish the D700 had.
HOWEVER, the D800 is still the hands-down champion of landscapes, adventures, and anything else where that kind of specialization is better than being well-rounded and speedy. In other words, sure the D800 is a bit more sluggish and the 5D mk3 has off-center cross-type AF points, but other than that I'd rather have a Nikon these days for the insane image quality coming from all three of their "ranges" of cameras.
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Thoughts?
Phil
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Phil
Right. That's why you should instead sign up for another workshop :rutt
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The D800 is the champion when you need to print larger than 24x36", or need to crop a lot and still print really big, or push your shadows 4 or more stops and print big.
When you get right down to it, as far as I can tell the only mechanical control the DF has over the D800 or 5D3 is the shutter speed dial. And that should be on every DSLR anyway, it shouldn't take a "retro" body to bring this sorely lacking control back to the market. As for the EC dial, well it's nice but it's no match for the 5D3's rear wheel which behaves as EC when in Av or Tv mode, and is easily accessible with the right thumb - no need to remove your left hand from the lens.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
Biggest thing I don't like about it is the single card slot, and it's on the bottom with the battery, like a point'n'shoot. PIA with an L-bracket, tripod, grip.
Nano coating, but no ED glass.. Is it just a fancy 50mm with extra reach or the successor of the Noct?
D800
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I am definitely going to be surprised if it doesn't handle SLOWER than a D700 / D800. Just being honest. However, IMO that is almost not the point. For example when I go out with my FM2, I go with the intent of just shooting, not with the do-or-die mentality of a fast-paced photojournalist.
I will DEFINITELY be testing the DF at weddings, though, and I will be reporting on that for sure. However personally I am betting that my favorite use of the DF will be with old AIS glass, shooting star trails in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere... :-D
=Matt=
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Judging by test images thus far, I am absolutely not impressed. I'd rather have the new classic looking 50mm f/1.8 G.
However, I have very little faith in the technical aptitude of any of the tests I've seen, so I'll reserve judgment until I have it in my hands. Which should be soon, maybe even before the DF hits shelves.
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I see ISO, EV, Shutter speed and Mode manual dials on top of the camera. Not that it matters because I think with only one card that it is a show stopper.
Phil
"You don't take a photograph, you make it." ~Ansel Adams
Phil
Correct. Tired posting on my part. ISO would be another good dedicated dial to have. EC, I don't know how the D610 does it, but my 5D3 does it directly/easily enough. The D610 does have a mode dial on top, so no advantage to the DF there.
Still, this is not worth $1000 to me. D4 sensor or D610 sensor, I don't really care.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
http://photographylife.com/announcing-the-nikon-dfb-burberry-edition
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
One of these days I'll have to figure out what my "style" is..
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
Again, it's not just a D4 sensor in a D610. It is a pro-caliber camera body, plain and simple.
I do understand that fewer and fewer people are caring about the difference between "made in Japan" and "made in Thailand", but this difference has always been worth quite a lot.
In fact in my opinion it is quite an accomplishment that the camera is about as light as a D610, yet built as tough as a D4.
But again, I don't expect many to appreciate that.
In other news, you know what would REALLY impress me and make the camera useful for general shooting? If one of the command dials could be programmed to control ISO without holding down a button. I would LOVE to be able to change my ISO with my right hand at any time, especially as a wedding photojournalist.
=Matt=
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But.. but.. but... it is all about the high iso noise, and megapixels... right?!?!?!?
I may have some insight on this. I went from Canon 5D (and mk2) to Fuji X, which have dials for shutter,aperture and exposure comp, so full physical control in other words.
I think it's a much better system than the PASM dial on DSLRs, and it's quicker to use. The exposure comp in particular is very convenient and I end up using it a lot more than I did on the canons.
Yeah, and the DF stands to have plenty of megapixels and the best ISO performance of any DSLR ever made. So? :-P
=Matt=
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But it iit is not enough! Just isn't enough! :wow
How do you figure it will be any better than the D4?
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
It is newer with a similar sensor. Nikon has a history of making tweaks to their future products when doing this. I am sure there will be some exceptions though.