The 7DmkII Thread.

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 12, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Not getting the dancing focus points.....hope your not pulling my chain...Laughing.gif.
    Sounds like you missed this step.

    - Set AF point display during focus to "ALL (constant)".
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 12, 2014
    I had the wife hit a tennis ball for the dog in my direction. It's hard to tell from these shots, but he's moving pretty fast. Goldens can run over 40MPH.

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited November 12, 2014
    Those are superb, Joel.

    This was kind of a nice video about the 7D Mkii too http://youtu.be/ThNJm14cSkk
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  • Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Matt, I've tried what you said to do on the 7d mkii and I can scroll from pic to pic while it was zoomed in but all the other photos have the zoomed in view also. Did I miss something.

    Yeah, you're probably viewing images that have already been captured. What I'm talking about is the initial, immediate playback / review that occurs the very first time an image is clicked. This is when scrolling form shot to shot is unavailable because the command dials are still dedicated to aperture / shutter control.

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  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    Yeah, you're probably viewing images that have already been captured. What I'm talking about is the initial, immediate playback / review that occurs the very first time an image is clicked. This is when scrolling form shot to shot is unavailable because the command dials are still dedicated to aperture / shutter control.

    =Matt=

    Yep, you're right about that. However I don't see what the big deal is, and there is an easy, instant solution - just press the playback button (or the Set button if you have it configured).
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    kdog wrote: »
    I had the wife hit a tennis ball for the dog in my direction. It's hard to tell from these shots, but he's moving pretty fast. Goldens can run over 40MPH.

    Great examples. Except you 'shopped the ball into that first one, didn't you. :D
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 13, 2014
    Great examples. Except you 'shopped the ball into that first one, didn't you. :D
    Absolutely not!! Although it looks strange, I'll grant you that. If I had photoshopped it, I would have done a better job than that. deal.gif
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    KDog, I got the "dancing points" but on the page 79 items you do mean the 65 point that is at the bottom of the page, correct? Second pt how then do you set the point you want to focus on. I'm looking from the sidelines over the bodies of three linemen and want to focus on the Qback, how do I adjust the movable point if I'm on the last item on Pg 79. Don't mean to be thick headed.
  • Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    Yep, you're right about that. However I don't see what the big deal is, and there is an easy, instant solution - just press the playback button (or the Set button if you have it configured).

    I suppose if I were raised on Canon and had gotten used to these options from the beginning, it wouldn't be a problem, but when you have such a function ingrained in your head for 5+ years as a Nikon user, well you really miss it.

    Either way, my point is, the 7D mk2 is nearly flawless, but Canon still has a couple functionality things they need to improve on...

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 13, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    KDog, I got the "dancing points" but on the page 79 items you do mean the 65 point that is at the bottom of the page, correct? Second pt how then do you set the point you want to focus on. I'm looking from the sidelines over the bodies of three linemen and want to focus on the Qback, how do I adjust the movable point if I'm on the last item on Pg 79. Don't mean to be thick headed.
    Charles, no worries at all. I've learned so much from guys like you in this forum that it's nice to be giving back for once.

    Yes, the last mode on the bottom of p 79, with the thin line drawn around the entire display. At this point you should see the center point with the box around it to show you your active focus point. Proceed to page 81 in the manual. mwink.gif

    Basically you just press the upper right-most button which will light up all 65 points in red, with the box around the active focus point. Then push the joystick around to move it to different spots around the field. You can use the dials too, but I always use the joystick. Hint -- just press the joystick straight on to quickly zero out the active point back to the center. This is all the same as for single shot action, so maybe I'm not understanding your question.
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    I've got most of that. I didn't think you could do what you suggested after setting it up without effecting what was done prior to that. Thanks for helping out.
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    kdog wrote: »
    Absolutely not!! Although it looks strange, I'll grant you that. If I had photoshopped it, I would have done a better job than that. deal.gif

    Weird! It looks like there is a big halo of cloning around the ball.
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 13, 2014
    Weird! It looks like there is a big halo of cloning around the ball.
    I know, it's weird. If I had cloned it however, I would have simply selected the ball and pasted it in. It wouldn't have left a ring like that. A complete novice wouldn't even have been that sloppy. This is a JPG pretty much straight out of the camera with a bit of exposure adjustment.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 13, 2014
    Here's a 100% crop showing the ball and the dog's face. f/2.8, btw.

    I have a friend who tells me he thinks it's caused by the, "variable refraction index caused by the different air density gradients around the ball".


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  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 13, 2014
    Bizarro!!
    -Jack

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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,244 moderator
    edited November 14, 2014
    kdog wrote: »
    I have a friend who tells me he thinks it's caused by the, "variable refraction index caused by the different air density gradients around the ball".

    Pfffft. :nah
    EDIT: OK, sort of.

    Just plain old fluid dynamics and eddy currents. A simple Navier–Stokes equation to figure turbulance based on your relative distance from subject, ball speed, magnification factor, air temperature vs. ball temperature, ball rotational speed at the surface, air pressure and ball surface texture (compared to its diameter) can more easily describe what is being viewed here. The convective surface flow (turbulance) is the key element here. Gravity, for this problem, might not be considered, since exactness is not necessarily desired.

    Simply look up this data in your EXIF, turn them into variables, and plug them into the formula here, and then we shall know if you photoshopped the thing, or not.

    EDIT 2: What about the 7DII's new Motion Blur Beauty Bokeh setting? Was it on "disable" or "active"?














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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    David_S85 wrote: »
    Pfffft. :nah
    EDIT: OK, sort of.

    Just plain old fluid dynamics and eddy currents. A simple Navier–Stokes equation to figure turbulance based on your relative distance from subject, ball speed, magnification factor, air temperature vs. ball temperature, ball rotational speed at the surface, air pressure and ball surface texture (compared to its diameter) can more easily describe what is being viewed here. The convective surface flow (turbulance) is the key element here. Gravity, for this problem, might not be considered, since exactness is not necessarily desired.

    Simply look up this data in your EXIF, turn them into variables, and plug them into the formula here, and then we shall know if you photoshopped the thing, or not.

    EDIT 2: What about the 7DII's new Motion Blur Beauty Bokeh setting? Was it on "disable" or "active"?














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    UGH!!
    Back to point and shoot!!!!
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Was thinking, which is unusual, can one of the buttons be dedicated to toggle between single shot and 10fps? Don't have the manual with me right now but that would be great for sports shooting.
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Was thinking, which is unusual, can one of the buttons be dedicated to toggle between single shot and 10fps? Don't have the manual with me right now but that would be great for sports shooting.

    The manual is ALWAYS with you. ;)
    http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/5/0300016615/01/eos7d-mk2-im-en.pdf

    or just go to canoneos.com if you lose that link.

    Doesn't look like this is possible, but you could assign a custom mode on the mode dial that has 10fps activated.
    -Jack

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    That would be too slow to do but boy would it be ever helpful.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 14, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Was thinking, which is unusual, can one of the buttons be dedicated to toggle between single shot and 10fps?
    you could assign a custom mode on the mode dial that has 10fps activated.
    Hackbone wrote: »
    That would be too slow to do but boy would it be ever helpful.

    I'm confused. Single-shot is an AF mode, while 10fps is a shutter drive mode. If you're talking about switching between single-shooting drive mode and continuous (burst) shooting, I don't see why that's necessary. You can always take just one shot if you're in burst mode. If you're wanting to toggle between servo and one-shot AF, then the C1, C2, C3 profiles are definitely the way to go. It doesn't take more than a second to get to C3, just rotate the shooting mode knob full counter-clockwise and you are there. You don't even need to take your eye off the viewfinder to do it.

    Can you clarify what you're trying to achieve, maybe give a scenario where it's useful?
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Sorry for the confusion. Speaking about shutter release button...hit it and one shot is taken....hit an assigned button for 10fps then hit the shutter and let er rip. Focusing on the Qback and it's a pass so quickly shoot his pass and then hit an assigned button to do fps for the catch. Not enough time to turn to a custom function.
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Here is a problem.....I've never shot with a camera that had two cards. When I just use an SD xc 64GB 600x 90mb/s card the images show up on the camera but when I put them in a card reader it says the card is not formatted and do I want to format it.(no images are showing) I formatted the card in camera however. Don't have this with the CF card.

    edit. Might have found the problem. It happened on an older computer and reader. When I put the card in a laptop it worked fine.
  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Yeah I'm not surprised Windows XP didn't know what to do with a 600x 64gb SD card! :)
    -Jack

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Jack, thanks for taking the time to talk and the tip on DPP, will try it when I get home.
  • cab.in.bostoncab.in.boston Registered Users Posts: 634 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Sorry for the confusion. Speaking about shutter release button...hit it and one shot is taken....hit an assigned button for 10fps then hit the shutter and let er rip. Focusing on the Qback and it's a pass so quickly shoot his pass and then hit an assigned button to do fps for the catch. Not enough time to turn to a custom function.

    Can't you just leave it in 10 fps mode, hit the shutter once (and release) for the single shot of the QB, then hit shutter and hold it down for the catch? I mean, you have to hold the shutter down for it to continue shooting high speed, no?
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  • jmphotocraftjmphotocraft Registered Users Posts: 2,987 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    Can't you just leave it in 10 fps mode, hit the shutter once (and release) for the single shot of the QB, then hit shutter and hold it down for the catch? I mean, you have to hold the shutter down for it to continue shooting high speed, no?

    Yes, but at 10fps it's very hard not to take two shots.
    -Jack

    An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    You wind up punching it for the first shot and now you've got some wobble in it. If you have to be that careful you then start throwing your timing off and trying to catch the ball at the right spot is tough enough.
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited November 14, 2014
    Yes, but at 10fps it's very hard not to take two shots.
    OMG, 2 shots. Yeah, that's definitely worth reconfiguring your camera during the play to prevent. rolleyes1.gif
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited November 14, 2014
    I normally take 400 to 500 shots per game and I'm a tight shooter, don't believe in excess. Multiply that by at least two and you've some serious culling and managing to do. Time is money!!!
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