Canon EOS M50, mirrorless

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Official Canon USA page

24.1 megapixels, APS-C CMOS Sensor
Stills ISOs: ISO 100-25600, H: 51200
Video ISOs: 4K: ISO 100–6400, H: 6400
Full HD, HD: ISO 100–12800,
H: 25600
Image Processor: Digic 8
Video Recording Sizes: 3840 x 2160 (4K): 24p (23.98)
1920 x 1080 (Full HD):
60p (59.94), 30p (29.97),
24p (23.98)
1280 x 720 (HD): 120p (119.9),
60p (59.94)
Autofocus: Dual-Pixel AF, (1-point AF, Face+Tracking priority AF, Smooth Zone AF, Contrast AF (4K videos))
AF Points: 143/99 points (Switches automatically depending on the lens type.)
Continuous Shooting Speeds: One-Shot AF (all lenses):
Max. approx. 10.0 fps
Servo AF: Max. approx. 7.4 fps
Both Touch-Panel LCD and Integrated Viewfinder

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Video reviews

Canon EOS M50 - 4K Mirrorless APS-C Camera! - Kai W

Introducing the EOS M50 Digital Camera - Canon USA

Official Canon EOS M50 Digital Camera Introduction - Canon USA

Canon EOS M50 review - first looks - Gordon Laing

Brett1000

still waiting for the Canon full frame mirrorless
flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

MaleenJohan

Interesting

venkatmangudi

I used the EOS M1 when it was first released. Lack of a viewfinder and the shutterlag killed the experience for me. Move to Olympus bodies and haven't looked back. BTW, I moved to the EOM M1 from the EOS 20D. :-)

Brett1000

@venkatmangudi said:
I used the EOS M1 when it was first released. Lack of a viewfinder and the shutterlag killed the experience for me. Move to Olympus bodies and haven't looked back. BTW, I moved to the EOM M1 from the EOS 20D. :-)

the newer M models are much better
flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Sil

i love M series !!!

JonaBeth Russell

I looked at the Canon M series before purchasing a Sony A7R III. Definitely glad about my choice, given that the battery is almost 3 times better (650shot rating), 4k can be shot without cropping, and it shoots 4k @ 30p & 24p (Canon only 24p), and 1080p @ 120fps (Canon only 720p @ 120fps). Add to it the 14.8 stop DR and exceptional low-light performance, and Canon is clearly behind the tech curve. Plus I like having the FF sensor, with the ability to shoot in crop mode when desired.

kdog

@JonaBeth Russell said:
I looked at the Canon M series before purchasing a Sony A7R III. Definitely glad about my choice, given that the battery is almost 3 times better (650shot rating), 4k can be shot without cropping, and it shoots 4k @ 30p & 24p (Canon only 24p), and 1080p @ 120fps (Canon only 720p @ 120fps). Add to it the 14.8 stop DR and exceptional low-light performance, and Canon is clearly behind the tech curve. Plus I like having the FF sensor, with the ability to shoot in crop mode when desired.

You're comparing a $600 body to a $3,000 body, I should hope it's a little better.

JonaBeth Russell

@kdog said:

@JonaBeth Russell said:
I looked at the Canon M series before purchasing a Sony A7R III. Definitely glad about my choice, given that the battery is almost 3 times better (650shot rating), 4k can be shot without cropping, and it shoots 4k @ 30p & 24p (Canon only 24p), and 1080p @ 120fps (Canon only 720p @ 120fps). Add to it the 14.8 stop DR and exceptional low-light performance, and Canon is clearly behind the tech curve. Plus I like having the FF sensor, with the ability to shoot in crop mode when desired.

You're comparing a $600 body to a $3,000 body, I should hope it's a little better.

Well, that's certainly a valid point. I guess I was generally speaking more toward Canon's being a bit behind in the mirrorless game overall, and my criticism comes from unprocessed bummed-ness that I had to leave Canon for the Sony...even though I love the Sony. Sentimental things and whatnot.

kdog

@JonaBeth Russell said:
Well, that's certainly a valid point. I guess I was generally speaking more toward Canon's being a bit behind in the mirrorless game overall, and my criticism comes from unprocessed bummed-ness that I had to leave Canon for the Sony...even though I love the Sony. Sentimental things and whatnot.

Yes, I agree completely. I have a rather large collection of Canon gear that I use in my business including tons of great lenses. However, I recently decided to put together a mirrorless kit for backpacking and other lightweight travel and went with Sony. Actually, I went with the A6500 so that I can use crop lenses and keep things really small. I have four lenses that are Sony specific now (Sony, Zeiss, and Rokinon). Those and the body fit into one small sling-bag that's so small it wouldn't even hold one Canon DSLR and mid-range zoom. Amazing. I will be putting it through its paces in an upcoming trip to Japan and looking forward to that.

But yes, Canon has really dropped the ball on mirrorless. Rumor has it that they're soon to announce a full-frame mirrorless. Hopefully they'll pull a rabbit out of the hat and produce something competitive. If not, I may eventually phase over to Sony completely.

Brett1000

@kdog said:

@JonaBeth Russell said:
Well, that's certainly a valid point. I guess I was generally speaking more toward Canon's being a bit behind in the mirrorless game overall, and my criticism comes from unprocessed bummed-ness that I had to leave Canon for the Sony...even though I love the Sony. Sentimental things and whatnot.

Yes, I agree completely. I have a rather large collection of Canon gear that I use in my business including tons of great lenses. However, I recently decided to put together a mirrorless kit for backpacking and other lightweight travel and went with Sony. Actually, I went with the A6500 so that I can use crop lenses and keep things really small. I have four lenses that are Sony specific now (Sony, Zeiss, and Rokinon). Those and the body fit into one small sling-bag that's so small it wouldn't even hold one Canon DSLR and mid-range zoom. Amazing. I will be putting it through its paces in an upcoming trip to Japan and looking forward to that.
But yes, Canon has really dropped the ball on mirrorless. Rumor has it that they're soon to announce a full-frame mirrorless. Hopefully they'll pull a rabbit out of the hat and produce something competitive. If not, I may eventually phase over to Sony completely.

wow, I picked up the ball ! .......... (at least it isn't as bad as Nikon )

flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

https://flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless/36721477642/

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.> @Brett1000 said:

I gather that image is from a Canon M5.

Are you planning on getting an M50? Waiting to see what's next in Canon mirrorless? Pretty happy and staying with what you have?

kdog

@Brett1000 said:
wow, I picked up the ball ! .......... (at least it isn't as bad as Nikon )

Great shot!!

Brett1000

@ziggy53 said:
.> @Brett1000 said:

I gather that image is from a Canon M5.

Are you planning on getting an M50? Waiting to see what's next in Canon mirrorless? Pretty happy and staying with what you have?

the Canon M50 is similar to the older M5 with a few more features like 4K video. I'll stick with the older model until at some point Canon has a full frame mirrorless
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

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@Brett1000 said:

the Canon M50 is similar to the older M5 with a few more features like 4K video. I'll stick with the older model until at some point Canon has a full frame mirrorless
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

I think that I would greatly appreciate the viewfinder of the M5, over the 4k video on the M50.

ziggy53

Late to this party but I finally purchased a Canon EOS M50, my first Canon mirrorless. (I also have a small Sony APS-C mirrorless system.)

At $359.99USD for the M50 (refurbished) plus kit lens (EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM), it's very affordable.

I also purchased the EF-EOS M Mount Adapter (refurbished) and I'm awfully happy I did. That lets me use:

• Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (Nano), a really excellent "kit" lens for the M50.
• Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM, a super-wide zoom for stills and full-HD video plus a wide zoom for 4k. Balances nicely on an older Zhiyun Crane (not sure which model).
• Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, a great standard/normal zoom for Canon APS-C.
• Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM, cheap and lightweight, but consistently pleasing images used properly.

So far, a very pleasing camera in good light. Not bad in low-light but spoiled by the 5D Mark IV low-light performance.
Using Technicolor CineStyle I get good results in fairly high-contrast video scenes. Mixes well with my other Canon video dSLRs also using Technicolor CineStyle. Adding a custom 3D LUT in DaVinci Resolve gets me back quickly to Rec 709\BT.709 standards.

pathfinder

I followed your line of thinking Ziggy, and picked up a Canon M6 Mk II 32.5 Mpxls. dual pixel AF and 30fps. With an adapter it will take all Canon EF-S and EF lenses and it is smaller than a Canon PowerShot GX3 - I checked.

It is not a 7D Mk II, but it is very close and a lot smaller and lighter, with a bigger file. The little cigarette lighter sized electronic viewfinder works very nicely too. Basically this is a 90D's sensor in a smaller, mirrorless body. The battery is small and it's not weather sealed, but it is easy to stick in a plastic bag, it is so small.

Now I am still waiting to see an R5 in the wild. The pandemic has slowed down the delivery of the 1DX Mk III too - it was supposed to be available in early April at the latest. But I want to see the R5 first now. I do like the R, for landscapes and people, but not for wildlife.

I still really like an optical viewfinders fast response. Call me old fashioned.

pathfinder

Here is an image of a house finch I shot at ISO 5000, and this image is a crop of about 1/4 or so of the sensor - edited in LightRoom from an M6 Mk II ( 2631 x 3946 10.4 Mpxl out of 4640x 6960 32.3 Mpxl ) - just to show what can be expected of APS-C crop sensors these days. I really would like to see Canon develop a serious professional replacement for the 7D Mk II with first class dual pixel AF, and good weather proofing, with a rotating LCD like the 90D and fast frame rates like the M6 Mk II. I could live with this sensor I think. What do the readers here think?

CW100

> @pathfinder said:
> Here is an image of a house finch I shot at ISO 5000, and this image is a crop of about 1/4 or so of the sensor - edited in LightRoom from an M6 Mk II ( 2631 x 3946 10.4 Mpxl out of 4640x 6960 32.3 Mpxl ) - just to show what can be expected of APS-C crop sensors these days. I really would like to see Canon develop a serious professional replacement for the 7D Mk II with first class dual pixel AF, and good weather proofing, with a rotating LCD like the 90D and fast frame rates like the M6 Mk II. I could live with this sensor I think. What do the readers here think?
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looks good