Nikon Coolpix P1000: 24-3000 optical zoom

RichardRichard Mildly bemusedMadrid, SpainPosts: 18,935Administrators, Vanilla Admin moderator
edited July 10, 2018 in Cameras

Not a typo. 3000mm, and up to 6000mm with something called Dynamic Fine Zoom enabled.

https://www.nikon.com/news/2018/0710_cpx_01.htm

I don't pay a whole lot attention to gear anymore, as what I have works well enough for what I do. But man, they're not making point 'n' shoots like they used to.

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  • colourboxcolourbox Major grins Posts: 2,089Registered Users Major grins
    edited July 12, 2018

    Man, I don't know...it's supposed to be compact, but it's huge...when you zoom in all the way, the max aperture is f/8...tiny sensor...

    Seems like you can only use the new Nikon outdoors on a sunny day, or if you take pictures of the moon all the time. They should have released this before the total solar eclipse, though, they would have sold a fair amount.

    The point and shoot I use is the exact opposite. Fits in a pocket, wide fast f/1.4 zoom lens that stops down to f/2.3 at the long end,.

    It is kind of sad that Nikon killed the DL compact line, and this week announced that the Nikon 1 mirrorless line is dead, and then they come out with this. This camera is like a cry for help from a camera company in the smartphone age...

  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator
    edited July 12, 2018

    It's encouraging that the lens design seems commensurate with great image quality, but I think it's important with this almost $1,000 price tag to wait a bit before jumping in with a purchase. Wait until some more hands-on reviews show up and consumer reviews too.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator

    What Nikon Canada has to say (YouTube video):

    Introducing the new Nikon Coolpix P1000

    ... And B&H:

    First Look | Nikon COOLPIX P1000

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  • RichardRichard Mildly bemused Madrid, SpainPosts: 18,935Administrators, Vanilla Admin moderator

    @ziggy53 said:
    It's encouraging that the lens design seems commensurate with great image quality, but I think it's important with this almost $1,000 price tag to wait a bit before jumping in with a purchase. Wait until some more hands-on reviews show up and consumer reviews too.

    Indeed. Conventional wisdom used to hold that anything more than about 3x was pushing the limit for a high quality optical zoom. But this is, what, 125x? How is that even possible even if it's a foot long? Is it a microscopic sensor?

  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator
    edited July 12, 2018

    According to an Adorama article:

    "The camera also features a 16-megapixel and 1/2.3-inch BSI CMOS sensor, which includes an ISO range of 100-6400, can capture images in RAW format (which wasn’t previously available in the P900)."

    I believe that this is a fairly typical size for P&S and Advanced Digicam cameras, as well as many consumer camcorders.

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  • RichardRichard Mildly bemused Madrid, SpainPosts: 18,935Administrators, Vanilla Admin moderator
    edited July 12, 2018

    @ziggy53 said:
    What Nikon Canada has to say (YouTube video):

    Introducing the new Nikon Coolpix P1000

    ... And B&H:

    First Look | Nikon COOLPIX P1000

    Thanks for the links. I was certainly wrong to call this beast a point 'n' shoot--I was misled by the Coolpix name, I suppose. I'll be interested in seeing the real-world reception. I can't even imagine what I would do with 3000mm, but if the quality is high enough, wildlife photographers might be thrilled. Personally, I would love to see something wider and not as long, say, 16-600, a modest 37.5x zoom. But I have no idea whether the technology used here could support that.

  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator
    edited July 12, 2018

    I kind of agree with Nikon Canada that this might be a good "addition" to a dSLR system. The pricing plus RAW and extreme zoom range make this a rather odd critter.

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  • luckyrweluckyrwe Major grins Posts: 952Registered Users Major grins

    The 3000mm may be optical but is it the 35mm equiv? I remember being told a lens of any length is the same length on any system. A 50mm is normal on a 35mm system and an 85mm is normal on a 220 format. But if the sensor is cut smaller then it "appears" that the lens is longer but it's just a crop. So when they say 3000mm they are no doubt just cropping the sensor size. I wonder what the lens really is.

  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator

    @luckyrwe said:
    The 3000mm may be optical but is it the 35mm equiv? I remember being told a lens of any length is the same length on any system. A 50mm is normal on a 35mm system and an 85mm is normal on a 220 format. But if the sensor is cut smaller then it "appears" that the lens is longer but it's just a crop. So when they say 3000mm they are no doubt just cropping the sensor size. I wonder what the lens really is.

    Yes, the "3000mm" rating is an "equivalent" FF Field-Of-View/Angle-Of-View (FOV/AOV). Yes, it's true that the measured focal length is much less, but since that shorter focal length is applied to a much smaller sensor than FF, it is fair to make the equivalence.

    The actual focal length at the long end is 539 mm (according to Nikon), and Nikon continues: "angle of view equivalent to that of 24-3000 mm lens in 35mm [135] format"

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  • luckyrweluckyrwe Major grins Posts: 952Registered Users Major grins

    Thank you for that info!!!

  • davevdavev Getting older by the day Posts: 3,116Registered Users Major grins
    edited August 23, 2018

    The lens will be fine, the shots will look pretty good, it comes down to if the camera is useable.
    I bought a Nikon P610 a couple of years back. It's worthless.
    Put on high speed frames per second, take a three shot burst, wait 10 seconds before you can do anything with the camera.
    Now if they put a buffer on it that helps make the camera quicker to use after a burst, this could be a fun camera.

    a shot with the P610 at 700mm equivalent.

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator

    The original title of this video was not really helpful, so I offer the following title instead which I believe tells the story:

    Panasonic FZ80 vs Nikon P1000

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator
    edited October 7, 2018

    Nikon P1000 - Moon Arch Close Up, Colorful Luminaries, Coolpix Super Zoom King Globe Buster

    =====================================================

    Better production quality

    Nikon P1000 View of 3 Planets & the 41% Moon

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  • BrodyBrody John Brody Photography Posts: 252Registered Users Major grins

    @colourbox said:

    The point and shoot I use is the exact opposite. Fits in a pocket, wide fast f/1.4 zoom lens that stops down to f/2.3 at the long end,.

    I must ask Colourbox; what point and shoot is that you mentioned? Sounds interesting!

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Still learnin'still lovin Posts: 21,200Super Moderators moderator

    @Brody said:

    @colourbox said:

    The point and shoot I use is the exact opposite. Fits in a pocket, wide fast f/1.4 zoom lens that stops down to f/2.3 at the long end,.

    I must ask Colourbox; what point and shoot is that you mentioned? Sounds interesting!

    I suspect that the "f/2.3" at the long end could be a typo, as I'm not aware of any body with that particular specification. If it's f/1.4 at the wide end and f/2.8 at the longer end then it could be either the Panasonic Lumix LX10 or LX15 @ 24mm-72mm (respectively and equivalent to FF). This pair of pocketable P&S are among the fastest aperture compact zoom cameras on the planet.

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  • colourboxcolourbox Major grins Posts: 2,089Registered Users Major grins
    edited February 14, 2019

    @Brody said:

    @colourbox said:
    The point and shoot I use is the exact opposite. Fits in a pocket, wide fast f/1.4 zoom lens that stops down to f/2.3 at the long end,.

    I must ask Colourbox; what point and shoot is that you mentioned? Sounds interesting!

    It is the very popular Sony RX100. My specific model is the VA/M5A. Tech specs:
    https://www.sony.com/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx100m5a/specifications

    ziggy53, looks like my earlier reply was a typo since yes, it's f/2.8 at the long end as the spec sheet above confirms.
    The funny thing is my last 2 point-and-shoots were the Lumix LX series that you mentioned. I had an LX3 and then an LX7. As you can see I do value big fast apertures over focal length. I'd rather have a sharper image and crop, then a zoomed-in image that's noisy and potentially motion-blurred.

    When I decided to upgrade to a 1-inch sensor, I switched to Sony because the video features were so much better, specifically high frame rate capabiities.

  • BrodyBrody John Brody Photography Posts: 252Registered Users Major grins

    It is the very popular Sony RX100. My specific model is the VA/M5A. Tech specs:
    https://www.sony.com/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx100m5a/specifications

    Thanks much for yoour feedback @colourbox - I will be doing some reading! 👍🏻

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  • colourboxcolourbox Major grins Posts: 2,089Registered Users Major grins
    edited February 18, 2019

    @Brody if you want one of these fast aperture one-inch sensor compacts, and you're happy with basic 4K video capability, you should also take a long look at the Panasonic Lumix LX10/LX15 that ziggy53 mentioned, because if it fits your needs the commonly discounted cost is about half of the RX100 price.

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