My schools on the news...

DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
edited March 15, 2006 in The Big Picture
not for a reason i'm proud of, but its very stupid. they're giving us all 10 days of O.S.S. (out of school suspension) for saying we don't like the school. i've seen the xangas in question before they were shut down and they're way over-exaggerating...


http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=4604699 KCTV5, just aired. i saw them when the buses came.

the "liquid substance" wasn't liquid, it was a Crystal Light Lemonade, shaker thingy for your waterbottle.


they shut down my xanga because i said i didn't like a teacher..*in those exact words*

meh, schools are messed up now-a-days...

Daniel
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Sounds like
    maybe school needs to be more challenging for you...:):
  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Dee wrote:
    maybe school needs to be more challenging for you...:):
    '
    we don't even have photojournalismumph.gif thats why i wanna get to high school.... except they use Nikon and Macs.rolleyes1.gif i use Canon and PC. lol
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    what the heck is a xanga? headscratch.gif

    izzat like a forum? if it is, don't they know that students have been bad-mouthing teachers forever? but now that its gone online, you can be suspended for it?

    If I'm right on that, I give it a big: Sheesh rolleyes1.gif
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  • Bob BellBob Bell Registered Users Posts: 598 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    I heard about that on the radio. Don't go to jail for something dumb, it will affect the rest of your life.
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    See, you need a challenge
    DanielB wrote:
    '
    we don't even have photojournalismumph.gif thats why i wanna get to high school.... except they use Nikon and Macs.rolleyes1.gif i use Canon and PC. lol

    You'll be challenged with the horrid task of learning how to use a Mac (poor baby!) and Nikons... the wider your experience and expertise the better it will make your employability...

    So besides taunting authority, what are your favorite subjects in school?
  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    DoctorIt wrote:
    what the heck is a xanga? headscratch.gif

    izzat like a forum? if it is, don't they know that students have been bad-mouthing teachers forever?

    Xanga is an online journal like LiveJournal or Myspace and such...
    my new one is http://www.xanga.com/mrPhotographic1 for example.

    and yeah, apparently they just now decided to pay attention to it.rolleyes1.gif

    they have parents from the PTA checking everyones now... and the second something shows up about trailridge they shut down yours...
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Dee wrote:
    So besides taunting authority, what are your favorite subjects in school?

    French and Orchestra.thumb.gif oh and Study Hall, because they let me on the computers and i can get on here...

    and actually for a laptop i was thinking of gettin an Ibook when they have Intelmwink.gif
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    So I'm starting to think
    DanielB wrote:
    French and Orchestra.thumb.gif oh and Study Hall, because they let me on the computers and i can get on here...

    You're not an ordinary 14 year old!rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    So are you an A student or a D student?
  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Dee wrote:
    You're not an ordinary 14 year old!rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    So are you an A student or a D student?

    lol3.gif no definitely not ordinary... most teenagers wouldn't spend 750 on a camera and then 500 on a lense.:D

    but anyways, it really depends what subjects... i have an A in English, Geometry, Gym, Social Studies, and French. I have a D in Communications *useless language arts class anyways* and Orchestra doesn't really give a grade... and i have a C in Science...:D
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    I can see how one would get in trouble if they were threatening to kill a teacher, but getting in trouble for saying you dont like a teacher is just plain stupid. It's really none of their business if you aren't threatening someone. I would actually threaten to sue if I was one that got in trouble for saying that I don't like someone.

    That's sort of like the whole Myspace thing that happened a while back. Pretty similar to this.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    In an era when kids show up at schools and kill people, I think it's understandable that school authorities don't want to take any chances.

    It sucks when it looks like they're overstepping the bounds. But no-one ever thinks a murder is going to happen at their schools. I'm quite sure that's what everyone at Colombine thought. Well, almost everyone, that is.
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    In an era when kids show up at schools and kill people, I think it's understandable that school authorities don't want to take any chances.

    It sucks when it looks like they're overstepping the bounds. But no-one ever thinks a murder is going to happen at their schools. I'm quite sure that's what everyone at Colombine thought. Well, almost everyone, that is.

    i know the kid in question, he's quite a sarcastic person...honestly i don't think he has a mean bone in him though... no ones even mean to him.. plus he's a Vegan and all that jazz.lol3.gif
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  • Bob BellBob Bell Registered Users Posts: 598 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    DanielB wrote:
    i know the kid in question, he's quite a sarcastic person...honestly i don't think he has a mean bone in him though... no ones even mean to him.. plus he's a Vegan and all that jazz.lol3.gif

    Not to make light of the topic but I would be mean as can be if I didnt have beef, pork, and turkey in my diet. Always watch out for the herbavores.
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Bob Bell wrote:
    Not to make light of the topic but I would be mean as can be if I didnt have beef, pork, and turkey in my diet. Always watch out for the herbavores.

    nod.gif i couldn't live w/o my barbecue.
    Daniel Bauer
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    Your school doesn't have a photojournalism course in their curriculum?

    Now, that's whacked. Every middle school and H.S. around here does. :uhoh

    And those web blogs are banned here in Illinois too. If any student is found to be posting on them - they're out of school.
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  • MrBook2MrBook2 Registered Users Posts: 211 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    And those web blogs are banned here in Illinois too. If any student is found to be posting on them - they're out of school.


    Please tell me you are exaggerating here. This can't possibly be legal. What happened to freedom of speech? Now I grant that we tend to treat anyone under 18 (and often times 21) as being less than people as far as legal rights go, but still, things are getting out of hand. There is a big difference between threats and opinions.

    How can the school restrict what you do when you are not there?

    --Aaron

    (Sorry for the rant, but this sort of thing really bugs me.)

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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    MrBook2 wrote:
    Please tell me you are exaggerating here. This can't possibly be legal. What happened to freedom of speech? Now I grant that we tend to treat anyone under 18 (and often times 21) as being less than people as far as legal rights go, but still, things are getting out of hand. There is a big difference between threats and opinions.

    How can the school restrict what you do when you are not there?

    --Aaron

    (Sorry for the rant, but this sort of thing really bugs me.)

    exactly why this has been on the news for 2 weeks. students aren't showing up for school... today we had a total of 400 at school, when the school has about 650 kids in it...
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    MrBook2 wrote:
    Please tell me you are exaggerating here. This can't possibly be legal. What happened to freedom of speech? Now I grant that we tend to treat anyone under 18 (and often times 21) as being less than people as far as legal rights go, but still, things are getting out of hand. There is a big difference between threats and opinions.
    How can the school restrict what you do when you are not there?
    --Aaron
    (Sorry for the rant, but this sort of thing really bugs me.)

    Well, I'm not exaggerating. Our town's forum has been commenting on the MySpace controversy for a while now. The schools have been scrambling of late to institute some sort of policy. It is apparently easier to dismiss the student than to really interpret the message. When any comment against someone, a school rule, or anything volitile is seen (real or imagined) on one of those kid's blogs anywhere, then the source (kid) is found (I don't know how, but they do) and the student punished or expelled. Lately it has all boiled down to something like this: "Just don't blog. If you do blog, do not mention school, or any student's name or knickname. Just don't blog. Period."
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Your school doesn't have a photojournalism course in their curriculum?

    Now, that's whacked. Every middle school and H.S. around here does. :uhoh

    we do in high school... but most of the kids that join that don't know the difference between a P&S and a DSLR. besides the fact that, mine's bigger, and takes better photos. lol3.gif
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  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    I don't know about xanga but ones like myspace are for members only, so how are the schools and pta and so on accessing them.....seems to a violation of civil rights not to mention other rights also.....I do believe that if you are threatening someone then a course of action should be taken [and not lightly]......dang I can remember students threatening a teacher when I was in school and he made them eat their words....they were given the chance to whip his butt....had a few bruised and banged kids at school for a week or so, never realized what kind of damage a pair of boxing gloves could to do a person......and he was an english teacher.....eek7.gif
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  • LiquidOpsLiquidOps Registered Users Posts: 835 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    I think this is a very informative thread. I had no idea stuff like this was going on and I think it's crazy how things are.

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  • cletuscletus Registered Users Posts: 1,930 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    DanielB wrote:
    nod.gif i couldn't live w/o my barbecue.

    Mmmmmmmmm.... Oklahoma Joes

    Sorry to hear about all the school issues. If it makes you feel any better, on this side of the state line even at the high school level we had a pretty crappy PhotoJ program. That was one good thing about attending MU - they have a killer PhotoJ department.
  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    Dee wrote:
    ... learning how to use a Mac ...
    Isn't that an <a href="http://www.fun-with-words.com/oxym_example.html&quot; target="_blank">oxymoron</a>?
  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    DanielB wrote:
    we do in high school... but most of the kids that join that don't know the difference between a P&S and a DSLR. besides the fact that, mine's bigger, and takes better photos. lol3.gif

    Colleges face the same problem. That's why I am in no way interested in looking into any college course in photography except for perhaps studio lighting. And even that might be compromised by oddballs and a part-time instructor who might not be up to par. I'm a big fan of learning by doing, reading, and practicing. Self-taught is better. But not everybody is able to learn that way.
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Well, I'm not exaggerating. Our town's forum has been commenting on the MySpace controversy for a while now. The schools have been scrambling of late to institute some sort of policy. It is apparently easier to dismiss the student than to really interpret the message. When any comment against someone, a school rule, or anything volitile is seen (real or imagined) on one of those kid's blogs anywhere, then the source (kid) is found (I don't know how, but they do) and the student punished or expelled. Lately it has all boiled down to something like this: "Just don't blog. If you do blog, do not mention school, or any student's name or knickname. Just don't blog. Period."
    This is so SO uncool!

    So you're saying that these days, if I had a bad test, and walked out of the classroom and muttered under my breath "Mr Smith is a real a**hole", and Mrs Jones heard me, I'd be suspended and maybe brought up on charges?

    That's what these blogs equate to! It's just kids being brats, its their job! You can't hold that Columbine torch up for everything. This is invasion of privacy, lack of freedom of speech/expression, and so on.

    I swear I'm not having kids. We live in the most over protected, hippocritical, and over litigated society on the planet!

    boy I'm mad
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    Doc, I think that if you were you now but back in public school, you'd be hung on the spot. Then probably tortured at Guantanamo Bay (or in some eastern european country flown there by the CIA), then expelled for life.
    DoctorIt wrote:
    This is so SO uncool!

    So you're saying that these days, if I had a bad test, and walked out of the classroom and muttered under my breath "Mr Smith is a real a**hole", and Mrs Jones heard me, I'd be suspended and maybe brought up on charges?

    That's what these blogs equate to! It's just kids being brats, its their job! You can't hold that Columbine torch up for everything. This is invasion of privacy, lack of freedom of speech/expression, and so on.

    I swear I'm not having kids. We live in the most over protected, hippocritical, and over litigated society on the planet!

    boy I'm mad
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    DoctorIt wrote:
    This is so SO uncool!

    So you're saying that these days, if I had a bad test, and walked out of the classroom and muttered under my breath "Mr Smith is a real a**hole", and Mrs Jones heard me, I'd be suspended and maybe brought up on charges?

    That's what these blogs equate to! It's just kids being brats, its their job! You can't hold that Columbine torch up for everything. This is invasion of privacy, lack of freedom of speech/expression, and so on.

    I swear I'm not having kids. We live in the most over protected, hippocritical, and over litigated society on the planet!

    boy I'm mad

    nod.gif what he said. except theres no way i'm gonna end up living in the states after i'm outta college and such.:D Canada or Europe for me. hell maybe New Zealand
    Daniel Bauer
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Doc, I think that if you were you now but back in public school, you'd be hung on the spot. Then probably tortured at Guantanamo Bay (or in some eastern european country flown there by the CIA), then expelled for life.
    Is that why they don't let me out of the lab here at UMass?

    rolleyes1.gif
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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited March 8, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Doc, I think that if you were you now but back in public school, you'd be hung on the spot. Then probably tortured at Guantanamo Bay (or in some eastern european country flown there by the CIA), then expelled for life.

    actually at our school, they don't really care if we cuss about a teacher, just threats and saying we don't like themheadscratch.gif i dk. it don't make sense. but our Principal's name is Dr. King Jr. *ironic?* and he has Gold-fronts.:uhoh and wears a sweat-suit on fridays. but a business suit the rest of the days... its crazy. and no, people at my school aren't all african american.. in fact, if anything its 95% caucasian, and 3% african american, 2%hispanic.
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited March 8, 2006
    DanielB wrote:
    actually at our school, they don't really care if we cuss about a teacher, just threats and saying we don't like them.
    So I can call my teacher a bitch, but if I go on my blog at night and type that she is as such and I'd like to whip her with a wet noodle, then I'm hung? WTF!?!

    Crikey, I should be serving 11 consecutive life sentences for all the times I've said I wanted to kick a professor in the teeth!

    What's next, I won't be able to yell "you effin conehead!!!" at stupid cage drivers who try to kill me on my motorcycle?
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