Downhill bikes

gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
edited April 11, 2006 in Sports
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
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  • rahmonsterrahmonster Registered Users Posts: 1,376 Major grins
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    Gus, I really like the last one, and the 4th is pretty good too. You did better than I could have that's for sure.
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  • Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
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    Hi Humungus,

    Nice series of pics. Great view perspective, I can feel the action. You must have spent a lot of time cleaning off lens dust.

    Fred
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,934 moderator
    edited March 19, 2006
    Or pre-focus and use an aperture that gives you enough DOF that everything
    is in focus. I think you might be better off with multiple foucs points tho.

    ian
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited March 19, 2006
    Holy cow, Gus, you have some excellent shots there!

    Man, if you can nail that mid-air shot, you'll really have something! I reckon for a shot like that, if your camera's AI Servo can't keep up, then do what Ian suggested and prefocus.

    Even so, some of these are outstanding. I'm thinking of the bike directly over the camera, the tight shot of wheel spray, some others that I can't see while I'm writing this because they're attachments.

    Man, you gotta go out and shoot them again (they have bigger brass ones than I'll ever have, I'd be wearing a suit of armor.)
    Sid.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
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    On the focus issue, maybe y'all could plan out the shots, and you could pre-focus on the action point. Set the shutter speed to something fast, and fire off a burst of shots.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
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    DavidTO wrote:
    On the focus issue, maybe y'all could plan out the shots, and you could pre-focus on the action point. Set the shutter speed to something fast, and fire off a burst of shots.
    Good idea with the planning and the pre-focus. I'm thinking the burst isn't a good idea, this one's so delicate you'd really need to time a single shot for best results. Still, I'm not there, dying of thirst in the outback, trying to shoot bikes whizzing by. But I wish I were, it looks like tons of fun.
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
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    What was yoru aperature? Did you give yourself some leeway, make it f8 or similar?
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
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    Humungus wrote:
    No way mate...they were in under trees at 30mph...i was sitting on f2 (135mm) & f1.8 (50mm) most of the time. I think herein lies most of my woes. I might just leave it on ISO400 & 9 point focus next time to see what i get. Sound better to you ?
    What I reckon is that you have such a narrow depth of field it's putting enormous pressure on your autofocus it get it right. f2 and f1.8 don't leave any room at all for error. And it looks like you have acceptable light.

    You might try increasing your depth of field and then prefocus. You could still get some background blur, if you choose your location and your distance from the background carefully. A broader depth of field puts a lot less pressure on the accuracy of your prefocus. If the light level is too low, raise your ISO and make sure your exposure is spot on, should help control noise. By doing a prefocus you avoid asking your camera to do something it's not really built for - sports-type autofocus.

    Still, easier said than done, you're the one in the bush struggling to figure it out.

    I'd think some panning shots, with a slower shutter speed, might also look great.
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
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    Humungus wrote:
    I was also a bit paranoid as the place is crawling with brown snakes..sort of takes your attention of the job when you are not watching the ground all the time rolleyes1.gif
    :uhoh Australia, the most dangerous country in the world!
    Sid.
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
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    I'm not sure you can shoot that kind of fast action, that close in, in that low light at f2.0 with a 20D Gus. That's what the 1DMkll was designed for....:uhoh

    How about shooting closer with a wider angle lens than the 135, which is effectively a 200mm lens on a 20D? That should give you more DOF.

    What was your ISO?

    Can you use a flash or auxilliary lighting?? You will need to shoot at f5.6 or so to get the depth of field you are wanting. Flash will help reduce your aperature for more DOF.

    How many bikes landed on top of you or went directly over you?? :D:D

    Great set of shots - but be careful out there.:):
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