as well as two copies of IE running so I could read the instructions and keep my place in here
self built pc (around $3200 - though most of the cost was the dual gfx cards which I mostly wanted for gaming doubt the extra one made a diff on this test)
Intel Q6600 quad core 2.4ghz (big bang for the buck on this entry level quad intel $289 - just a bit slower than the $1000 quads)
Asus P5N32-E SLI Motherboard
4 gig OCZ DDR2 PC6400
2 BFG 8800 GTX OC video cards (SLI enabled)
1 - WD Raptor - 10k SATA 74gig hard drive
1 - WD Cavier - 7.2k SATA 750gig hard drive
Creative Xfi sound card
2 - Plextor PX800A DVD RW DL drives
running XP Pro..
testing CS3 on an older Mac and New (homebuilt) PC:
Vitals for machine below benchmarks:
MAC
FM 45s/1:25
RP 1:28/3:01
PC
FM 6.1s/8.0s
RP 10.2s/16.8s
MAC:
G4 Quicksilver 733
1.5GB RAM
OSX 10.4.9
PC
Vista Premium 8bit
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (overclocked to 3.73GHz)
4GB Dual-Channel DDR2
1 (1)TB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive w/ 10 partitions & Data Burst
1 (100)GB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive for the OS
Dual 768MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Fiber Bus architecture
A whole bunch of PCI slots and a small chernobyl power supply
testing CS3 on an older Mac and New (homebuilt) PC:
Vitals for machine below benchmarks:
MAC
FM 45s/1:25
RP 1:28/3:01
PC
FM 6.1s/8.0s
RP 10.2s/16.8s
MAC:
G4 Quicksilver 733
1.5GB RAM
OSX 10.4.9
PC
Vista Premium 8bit
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (overclocked to 3.73GHz)
4GB Dual-Channel DDR2
1 (1)TB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive w/ 10 partitions & Data Burst
1 (100)GB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive for the OS
Dual 768MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Fiber Bus architecture
A whole bunch of PCI slots and a small chernobyl power supply
Wow, a Macintosh model that was introduced in July of 2001. Still running, albeit a little slow. Not bad for a 6 year old machine!
Wow, a Macintosh model that was introduced in July of 2001. Still running, albeit a little slow. Not bad for a 6 year old machine!
It's a great machine David. I've had it for years and I've poked it, beat it, did everything but pour water on it. It keeps on humming away....
The only reason I've switched to the PC side is it's more cost effective for me. Plus I know how to keep my machine out of the crud.
I totally understand why ppl love macs from the low end user to the high end. For the low end user, they just work. For the high end user (like yourself) the take a beating and ask for more.
BTW I went to the apple site yesterday to build a fully loaded machine (dreaming). Freakin toal was 19K+
Can you post your specs?
I have a few friends w/ maxed out 8 cores and none of them are even close to the numbers you boast.
I'm curious to see what makes the difference.
Modest suggestion
I think this thread might be more interesting if we posted the cost of each machine along with the benchmark data. It certainly should be no surprise that a $4000 machine outperforms a $400 one, but many people might want to see what, say, $2000 will buy.
I'll kick it off by editing my earlier post on the ThinkPad T61.
Can you post your specs?
I have a few friends w/ maxed out 8 cores and none of them are even close to the numbers you boast.
I'm curious to see what makes the difference.
Homebuilt Winders XP machine after UPS used it for a jackstand...
Asus M2N-E SLI nForce 500 Socket AM2 Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.81 GHz processor
CRUCIAL PC5300 DDR2 667MH. 2 gb
XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX 256MB PCIe vid card
Two WD Caviar 320GB SATA-3G hard drives in RAID mirror
Running old Photoshop 7.0
Total cost including case, fans, cooling, XP SP2 upgrade, and the little bs stuff inside the tower to get it going like wiring, power supply, etc, minus the monitor, keyboard, mouse, and other peripherals was ~$720.
Tried this test on the new PC I had built by the dudes who recovered the data from my fried HD.
Intel Core2dual E6650 processor @233 Ghz
4GB DDR800 RAM
NVIDIA Gforce 8400 256mb video card
Windows XP Pro
PS CS3
$1,336.00
FM 16 file 11 secs
Retouch 16 bit file 31 secs
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
A year old AMD TL-52 1.6GHz ($750 last year) defective laptop of mine was replaced by HP with an Intel T5550 1.83Ghz. The new one costs about $750 right now.
Old Pentium V with HT Cache L2 Extreme Edition 3.40 GHz (I bought it in the year 2004).
Motherboard: D925EXCV2.
RAM: Kingston DDR2 533 MHz Dual Channel (4GB).
Photoshop and Hard Drives space optimized (SATA) for paging file.
Windows XP 32-bits SP3.
FM Test: 8bpc = 32 seconds.
FM Test: 16bpc = 40 seconds.
Price of my computer (it's discontinued) JEje...
By the way, I would like to buy a new PC with the Native Quadcore (like the i7). First world people have that kind of tech, someone could submit a test with that processor? Becasue Lightroom 2.0; 2.1 and 2.2 works very slow in my machine.
By the way, I would like to buy a new PC with the Native Quadcore (like the i7). First world people have that kind of tech, someone could submit a test with that processor? Becasue Lightroom 2.0; 2.1 and 2.2 works very slow in my machine.
Tanks
No lightroom figs, as I'm not aware of a standardised benchmark that everyone is using.
However, Retouch Pro test:
Home built
Intel i7-920 @ 2.66GHz (quad core native, with hyperthreading enabled for 8 Logical cores)
Asus P6T Deluxe Mobo
6Gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 @ 1600MHz in triple channel (3x2GB)
All drives are Samsung Spinpoint F1 1Tb
Thats the machine at stock speeds. Overclocked to 4GHz however (almost all i7-920s will hit this with a decent motherboard, RAM and cooling)...
8bit - 5.7 secs
16bit - 6.2 secs
32bit - 6.9 secs
The i7 is awesome. Be aware tho, that if you want to run DDR3 @ 1600MHz, you'll need the retail version of the chip, not OEM, as QPI multipliers are locked on the OEM version. It's this extra RAM bandwidth that makes it shine. Triple channel DDR3 rocks! My board can actually use 2000MHz DDR3, but the price of that stuff is still high.
The stock Intel cooler is useless if you plan on overclocking. Go for the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme instead... an extra £50 but well worth it.
Don't waste money on the i7-940 or 965 either, as almost all i7-920s will hit 4GHz (make sure it's "D0" stepping to guarantee this).
Oh.. btw.. Hello Being my first post
[edit]
Forgot to mention my OS... which is Vista 64bit, and cost of machine, which was £1200 (US$1700 approx) as I already had some components. If I was to build the whole thing from scratch inc. the GTX295 dual GPU card, it would be around US$2300.
Comments
New iMac Intel C2D 2.4GHZ 4GB's RAM
http://www.nkpix.com
FM test
7.04 sec 8 bit
8.47 sec 16 bit
Retouch Pro Test
15.06 sec 8 bit
18.88 sec 32 bit
as well as two copies of IE running so I could read the instructions and keep my place in here
self built pc (around $3200 - though most of the cost was the dual gfx cards which I mostly wanted for gaming doubt the extra one made a diff on this test)
Intel Q6600 quad core 2.4ghz (big bang for the buck on this entry level quad intel $289 - just a bit slower than the $1000 quads)
Asus P5N32-E SLI Motherboard
4 gig OCZ DDR2 PC6400
2 BFG 8800 GTX OC video cards (SLI enabled)
1 - WD Raptor - 10k SATA 74gig hard drive
1 - WD Cavier - 7.2k SATA 750gig hard drive
Creative Xfi sound card
2 - Plextor PX800A DVD RW DL drives
running XP Pro..
..and boy does Lightroom rock on this thing.
Vitals for machine below benchmarks:
MAC
FM 45s/1:25
RP 1:28/3:01
PC
FM 6.1s/8.0s
RP 10.2s/16.8s
MAC:
G4 Quicksilver 733
1.5GB RAM
OSX 10.4.9
PC
Vista Premium 8bit
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (overclocked to 3.73GHz)
4GB Dual-Channel DDR2
1 (1)TB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive w/ 10 partitions & Data Burst
1 (100)GB Single Serial ATA Hard Drive for the OS
Dual 768MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Fiber Bus architecture
A whole bunch of PCI slots and a small chernobyl power supply
Wow, a Macintosh model that was introduced in July of 2001. Still running, albeit a little slow. Not bad for a 6 year old machine!
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3071MB
CS3
FM: 7,5s
RP: 14,7s
(8Bit)
The only reason I've switched to the PC side is it's more cost effective for me. Plus I know how to keep my machine out of the crud.
I totally understand why ppl love macs from the low end user to the high end. For the low end user, they just work. For the high end user (like yourself) the take a beating and ask for more.
BTW I went to the apple site yesterday to build a fully loaded machine (dreaming). Freakin toal was 19K+
-Jon
CS3
AMD Althlon 64 x2 Dual Core Procesor 5600+ 2.8GHz
Vista 32 (so far, so good)
3GB RAM
Miranda = 16 sec
Retouch Pro, 16 bit = 37 sec
Website
FM Test (is it really just that little butterfly test picture?): < 1 second.
Yes, basically by the time I looked at the clock and click the button until I saw it blurred to oblivion was nearly immediate.
Retouch:
8 bit file: 10 seconds
16 bit file: 13 seconds
Surely we need tougher tests; all these test are radial blurs
I have a few friends w/ maxed out 8 cores and none of them are even close to the numbers you boast.
I'm curious to see what makes the difference.
Not that I know of. He's one of those 80 hour a week guys. I kinda hate to bother him. Anyway, CatOne has the same machine.
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
Retouch 8 bit: 34 sec
Retouch 16 bit: 43 sec
Lenovo ThinkPad T61; Core 2 Duo, 2 Ghz; 3 GB RAM; XP Pro; CS3
Machine cost $1,500 USD (not including CS3)
I think this thread might be more interesting if we posted the cost of each machine along with the benchmark data. It certainly should be no surprise that a $4000 machine outperforms a $400 one, but many people might want to see what, say, $2000 will buy.
I'll kick it off by editing my earlier post on the ThinkPad T61.
Regards,
8 core Mac Pro, 8 GB RAM, ATI X1900XT.
Since I'm somewhat obsessed with cost to performance ROI, I’ll go with Richard’s idea about posting the cost of the machine.
Specs and results shown above were on an HP 6230, $650 USD w/o monitor.
Website
Asus M2N-E SLI nForce 500 Socket AM2 Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.81 GHz processor
CRUCIAL PC5300 DDR2 667MH. 2 gb
XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX 256MB PCIe vid card
Two WD Caviar 320GB SATA-3G hard drives in RAID mirror
Running old Photoshop 7.0
Total cost including case, fans, cooling, XP SP2 upgrade, and the little bs stuff inside the tower to get it going like wiring, power supply, etc, minus the monitor, keyboard, mouse, and other peripherals was ~$720.
FM: 24 seconds
RP: 43 seconds
I didn't close everything but ps.
Intel Core2dual E6650 processor @233 Ghz
4GB DDR800 RAM
NVIDIA Gforce 8400 256mb video card
Windows XP Pro
PS CS3
$1,336.00
FM 16 file 11 secs
Retouch 16 bit file 31 secs
http://behret.smugmug.com/ NANPA member
How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
35 Seconds
Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq dc7100
3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
2 GB RAM
PS2
Fred's
Canon EOS 20D
http://www.lazycreekphoto.com
Teddy Roosevelt Revised: "Walk softly and carry a big lens."
Mac Pro, 8 core, 2.8ghz, 10gb ram
FM:
8bit 5 sec
16bit 6 sec
RTpro:
16bit 12 sec
CS3 Extended
FM - 14sec
Retouch Pro 8bit - 32sec
Retouch Pro 16bit - 44sec
SmugMug Technical Account Manager
Travel = good. Woo, shooting!
nickwphoto
Intel Q6600 (overclocked to 3ghz)
4GB RAM
Vista / CS3
Retouch Pro:
8 bit: 12 sec
16 bit: 15 sec
FM:
6 sec
model: dv2700t.
2GB Ram
Vista/CS3
Rpro - 8 bit - 37s
Rpro - 16bit - 47s
2.53GHz Pentium 4
1GB RAM (max )
XP SP2
CS2
(Soon to be replaced...)
Retouch
8-bit
2:44 (164 sec)
16-bit
3:05 (185 sec)
Fred Miranda
1:13 (73 sec)
Machine cost about $650 when purchased some years ago.
In theory this is a benchmark which can really use all those cores for a large enough set of photos.
HP dv95000
17" monitor
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80Ghz 1.80GHz
RAM - 2046MB
32-bit OS Windows Vista
Dual hard drives (103GB and 111GB).
TheFireGuysPhotos.com
FM Test, 8bit, 22 sec
FM Test, 16bit, 32 sec
Retouch Pro Test, 8bit, 53 sec
Retouch Pro Test, 16bit, 75 sec
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Quad Core at 2.93ghz
4GB Ram (yes, I know)
Windows XP
CS4
Price? Less than your camera
FM 8bit: 6.05s
FM 16bit: 7.10s
Retouch 8bit: 12.00s
Retouch 16bit: 15.15s
All photos are Copyrighted and Registered. Please don't use without permission.
5DSR 16-35 2.8L III 24-70 2.8L II 70-200 2.8L IS II
Go to Image\mode\16 bits. Make sure you have loaded the image
Okay,
Photoshop CS3:
Old Pentium V with HT Cache L2 Extreme Edition 3.40 GHz (I bought it in the year 2004).
Motherboard: D925EXCV2.
RAM: Kingston DDR2 533 MHz Dual Channel (4GB).
Photoshop and Hard Drives space optimized (SATA) for paging file.
Windows XP 32-bits SP3.
FM Test: 8bpc = 32 seconds.
FM Test: 16bpc = 40 seconds.
Price of my computer (it's discontinued) JEje...
By the way, I would like to buy a new PC with the Native Quadcore (like the i7). First world people have that kind of tech, someone could submit a test with that processor? Becasue Lightroom 2.0; 2.1 and 2.2 works very slow in my machine.
Tanks
No lightroom figs, as I'm not aware of a standardised benchmark that everyone is using.
However, Retouch Pro test:
Home built
Intel i7-920 @ 2.66GHz (quad core native, with hyperthreading enabled for 8 Logical cores)
Asus P6T Deluxe Mobo
6Gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 @ 1600MHz in triple channel (3x2GB)
All drives are Samsung Spinpoint F1 1Tb
CS3
10x8 Inch 300ppi
8bit - 9.8 secs
16bit - 10.1 secs
32bit - 11.7 secs
Thats the machine at stock speeds. Overclocked to 4GHz however (almost all i7-920s will hit this with a decent motherboard, RAM and cooling)...
8bit - 5.7 secs
16bit - 6.2 secs
32bit - 6.9 secs
The i7 is awesome. Be aware tho, that if you want to run DDR3 @ 1600MHz, you'll need the retail version of the chip, not OEM, as QPI multipliers are locked on the OEM version. It's this extra RAM bandwidth that makes it shine. Triple channel DDR3 rocks! My board can actually use 2000MHz DDR3, but the price of that stuff is still high.
The stock Intel cooler is useless if you plan on overclocking. Go for the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme instead... an extra £50 but well worth it.
Don't waste money on the i7-940 or 965 either, as almost all i7-920s will hit 4GHz (make sure it's "D0" stepping to guarantee this).
Oh.. btw.. Hello Being my first post
[edit]
Forgot to mention my OS... which is Vista 64bit, and cost of machine, which was £1200 (US$1700 approx) as I already had some components. If I was to build the whole thing from scratch inc. the GTX295 dual GPU card, it would be around US$2300.