And you say if I Google "site:winsomeworks.com" & select Images, every photo should appear???? 248 photos appear of mine. And I have thousands. Not good.
Actually if you take a look at your 248, you'll see that every photo after the first 30 are so are thumbnails. You're seeing those thumbnails because you told Google (with the "site:" prefix) that you wanted to see ALL images it found on your site. However, Google heavily weights image size in their image search rankings, so a thumbnail image will rarely appear in real-life searches. From the left menu click 'Larger than..." and choose the smallest size (400x300) to get an idea how many non-thumbnail photos you have out there. And I'm guessing that each of those have been linked from a blog, third party website, etc.
Try the same on Bing... your website is well represented with 168 page results, but click Images and you have just one (Bing filters out tiny/thumbnail images).
SmugMug provides an excellent end-user experience and there are reasons why it's coded the way it is. A lot has been done recently to address SEO concerns so I hope this area is next.
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You'll see within the IMG tag that the photo does indeed contain your designated caption as the ALT attribute, but the SRC points to spacer.gif, not your photo! The actual photo is displayed using CSS background-image. Google Image Search won't navigate this, thus only your thumbnails will appear along with any image linked externally (or from your gallery description as Amos described above). The situation is generally the same with Bing Image Search.
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Could it be that "right-click protection" is the culprit? I had this problem early
on using an iPhone app. I only got an image border and not the image with
RCP turned on. Turned it off and the photos showed. With RCP off does the
SRC point to a spacer.gif or the photo link?
A couple things I'd suggest are: add a gallery description to all your galleries. I see no description there, only a title. It probably also does not help that each caption is the same. (If I understand correctly, that could be considered spamming, but ask someone more knowledgeable about it). This has nothing to do with SEO that I know of, but I wonder why you want your filenames there for the public to see? For me, it gets in the way of finding the caption. (not that Google bots care about that). Lastly, your photos are lovely. You make me wish to go find this disused church in the middle of nowhere & sit there awhile! It's got such an atmosphere about it... wow! Off to look at some more of your galleries.
Thanks for that, I'll look into it. I have the file names visible because if anyone wants a particular image, they can quote the file name. They could quote the page I suppose, but I just thought it would be easier with the file name. The second part of the filename gives me the date it was taken, so nice and easy for me to find! Yes, we are spoilt for old churches, (many going back hundreds of years) castles, standing stones here, and I do appreciate it!
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It probably also does not help that each caption is the same. (If I understand correctly, that could be considered spamming, but ask someone more knowledgeable about it).
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If the photos are all of the same thing, it's surely difficult to add a different caption? Spamming? Is it really? If it is, I'm guilty many times over! Anyone know ?
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If the photos are all of the same thing, it's surely difficult to add a different caption? Spamming? Is it really? If it is, I'm guilty many times over! Anyone know ?
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Well.... you could say what part of the church we're looking at... "here we have a lovely wooden pew...." or "This is the cat that chased the rat that ate the..." On the filenames issue, people can go to the "Info" button (within the hover-over) to see it, unless you have that disabled. In my own info., the date is also visible. But it's not as handy, certainly. Let's see... I know I've run into this before. I have one gallery where I numbered each photo in the gallery, which was a little less obtrusive. Maybe someday we'll have a filename hover-over (one that doesn't involve the need to click on "Info). SmugMug did make this handy in one way though-- once you have the "Info" button clicked, that little dialog box will stay there as you look through the entire gallery, for awhile anyway. But... we digress. I think we're s'posed to be on SEO! :uhoh
To put (insert/embed) an image (i.e., the following:)
in a certain album/gallery, go to the gallery where your image is located, click on 'Share', then on 'Get a Link', then on the 'Photo Links' tab, then choose/copy a size.
Go now to the album in which you want the image to be, click the 'Edit' (next to the album's Description) and paste what you copied earlier, inside your description text and then add <img src= just before the: "http://www....... and a > at the end. The following is what it should look (regarding the above image):
<img src="http://www.emixpix.com/Connecticut/Darien-CT-06820-AERIAL-Photos/001-Darien06820-060805/492002442_aDrKv-S-5.jpg" title="Darien, CT 06820 Aerial Photos - image 1 of 72." alt="Darien, CT 06820 Aerial Photos - image 1 of 72.">
In the 'title' (what people see when hovering their mouse over) and the 'alt' (what search engine see as the image caption) fields (marked in blue) write what you want - short and to the point - this is the keyword Google will see (...and hopefully index in it's Google Images).
By "Edit" section are you referring to the album description? Be aware that
would push the photo section below down.
Thanks for that! I'm pretty much in the dark with this really, all that I'm trying to resolve is the fact that none of my photos ever seem to appear in a google image search. Even if I select a very unusual subject, where I know there will be a very limited number of photos, none of mine appear. Am I going about this the wrong way?
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Glad I stumbled up on this thread and thanks for all the SEO comments!
Instead of naming files IMG0000001.jpg it was suggested naming them fish_red_sea_egypt.jpg. Andy, did I understand you correctly that if you had already uploaded the file with the name IMG0000001.jpg, changing the caption to "fish, red sea, egypt" had the same effect as deleting the file and uploading it again renamed as fish_red_sea_egypt.jpg?
Again regarding searchability, how can I affect the text description of my webpage when I google it? See below.
Instead of "30 Jan 2011...." I would rather want to have a text I can choose myself.
Instead of "30 Jan 2011...." I would rather want to have a text I can choose myself.
If the link in Google is to a gallery then the description of that gallery will appear - at least that's how it appears to work for me.
If the link is to your home page then the information in the 'Bio' section of your control panel should appear in Google but I just checked mine and it doesn't appear to even though it used to . Maybe someone else can shed some light on this change?
If the link in Google is to a gallery then the description of that gallery will appear - at least that's how it appears to work for me.
If the link is to your home page then the information in the 'Bio' section of your control panel should appear in Google but I just checked mine and it doesn't appear to even though it used to . Maybe someone else can shed some light on this change?
In your Control Panel, on the Settings tab, you'll find a way to set your Search Engine Settings. Fill in your Homepage Meta Description and Google will pick up the first 140 characters to display a description of your home page in their search results.
Thanks for that Denise, but unfortunately I have that set correctly (the same as my Bio info.) but when I search for my domain name (photos.miseast.org) in Google the the info. underneath is along the lines of "20 galleries with 530 photos...." rather than my Bio info as it used to.
I wonder if this is related to the sitemap work that has been going on?
Thanks for that Denise, but unfortunately I have that set correctly (the same as my Bio info.) but when I search for my domain name (photos.miseast.org) in Google the the info. underneath is along the lines of "20 galleries with 530 photos...." rather than my Bio info as it used to.
I wonder if this is related to the sitemap work that has been going on?
Thats the same here. In Control panel > Account Settings > Search > Homepage Meta Description I have the text I want to appear, but it doesn't (as described in my previous email). Im wondering what prevents it...
Thats the same here. In Control panel > Account Settings > Search > Homepage Meta Description I have the text I want to appear, but it doesn't (as described in my previous email). Im wondering what prevents it...
Did you recently change it or has it been there for a while (months)?
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I updated my Page Title in Advanced Customization about 5 days ago and my old page title is still showing up in Google. Should this be updated by now?
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I updated my Page Title in Advanced Customization about 5 days ago and my old page title is still showing up in Google. Should this be updated by now?
it can take a while for google to recrawl. They will.
okay I really hate to be a stickler here but I'm getting very upset about the way Google is not find my photos
if i do the Site:www.wideshutphotography.com under images i get about 9-10 from my smugmug site, the first 6-8 are few that are on facebook (only 18 in all) i start with abot 5 so this many many hours hours has resulted in 13 photos )
now i run my other site www.turbov6camaro.com from my home PC with IIS and I do not have to jump thought all these hoops to get this to work.
This is affecting my business as people in the area can not find me even if they search. I have talked with a least 6-8 people about this
It is also to the point where I feel my images and web site are cluttered due to having to put so much info on the site.
the images above have changed since my last post but remain the same number where i spent days going through my site and changing things at your request, It has had plenty of time to get crawled.
Please tell me if there is a way to fix this or not?
Please do not feed me the excuse that I must have this and description on the photo and on the gallery, doing search on the site i run above, the first page is full of image s from my site and 90% of those are my images.
so do you know whats going on or do you not know and just keep blaming your customers web skills ?
as a test i had (now expired) www.wideshutphoto.com running off my server and photos on there would get picked up withing 24 hours sometimes only hours after i posted them but still have yet to show from the smugmug site.
PS I bet $5 that i will have an email no later then this time tomorrow from my Google monitor of "wideshutphotography" about this post
Why can not You go to Google and Yahoo and tell to them - "Dear Sirs and Madams. Sorry, we do not understand anything in indexing, optimization and rankings. Our customers ask us, and we do not know, what to say. Please help us!"
Why can not You go to Google and Yahoo and tell to them - "Dear Sirs and Madams. Sorry, we do not understand anything in indexing, optimization and rankings. Our customers ask us, and we do not know, what to say. Please help us!"
That really is an unnecessarily rude comment - I hate to see Andy, Smugmug heroes and all who help insulted.
Why can not You go to Google and Yahoo and tell to them - "Dear Sirs and Madams. Sorry, we do not understand anything in indexing, optimization and rankings. Our customers ask us, and we do not know, what to say. Please help us!"
Yes, sarcasm and rudeness is definitely the best way to get help here. Oh, and also, it's Smugmug's fault that Google takes forever to get their act together, you're so right.
I can say with absolute certainty that Andy, the Dgrin community and The Heroes are without a doubt the most helpful and engaged group of folks I've had the pleasure of interacting with online. I'd kindly ask you to button your lip the next time you feel the need to vent your frustration on the people who volunteer their time and efforts for our mutual betterment.
Yes, sarcasm and rudeness is definitely the best way to get help here. Oh, and also, it's Smugmug's fault that Google takes forever to get their act together, you're so right.
Nobody deserve to be insulted, abused... especially not the volunteers and the people that try to help. That said, I've had some flippant answers that did "piss me off" like "don't worry we know what we are doing, it's working" when it's not.
Smugmug should send people to Google to learn how Google does things. Google has "clinics" a few times per year. The clinics are done by people from the "real" department, the quality control department. That's the people that write and modify the algorithms... for search. The clinic takes public websites apart and explains what works and what doesn't work from Google's point of view. They also explain what are the steps people should take to improve their "rankings".
Smugmug deliberately makes it difficult for Google to index the photos. I do understand that they want the flexibility, but Smugmug doesn't follow the Google "rules" like the sitemaps. Google wants the files to be available in the sitemap, not a 302 redirection. These 302 redirections allow for the latest changes where they changed the names, path names...
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Actually if you take a look at your 248, you'll see that every photo after the first 30 are so are thumbnails. You're seeing those thumbnails because you told Google (with the "site:" prefix) that you wanted to see ALL images it found on your site. However, Google heavily weights image size in their image search rankings, so a thumbnail image will rarely appear in real-life searches. From the left menu click 'Larger than..." and choose the smallest size (400x300) to get an idea how many non-thumbnail photos you have out there. And I'm guessing that each of those have been linked from a blog, third party website, etc.
Try the same on Bing... your website is well represented with 168 page results, but click Images and you have just one (Bing filters out tiny/thumbnail images).
SmugMug provides an excellent end-user experience and there are reasons why it's coded the way it is. A lot has been done recently to address SEO concerns so I hope this area is next.
on using an iPhone app. I only got an image border and not the image with
RCP turned on. Turned it off and the photos showed. With RCP off does the
SRC point to a spacer.gif or the photo link?
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Thanks for that, I'll look into it. I have the file names visible because if anyone wants a particular image, they can quote the file name. They could quote the page I suppose, but I just thought it would be easier with the file name. The second part of the filename gives me the date it was taken, so nice and easy for me to find!
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Thanks, still having problems. If I want to put this thumbnail in the "edit" section, can you tell me exactly what I should have.
This is the thumbnail link,
http://www.pembrokeshirephotos.eu/Castles/Carew-Castle/CRW2058/721749512_D943o-Th.jpg
This is the gallery I want to insert it in,
http://www.pembrokeshirephotos.eu/Castles/Carew-Castle/9115462_79fiX#721749659_nneZv
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would push the photo section below down.
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Thanks for that! I'm pretty much in the dark with this really, all that I'm trying to resolve is the fact that none of my photos ever seem to appear in a google image search. Even if I select a very unusual subject, where I know there will be a very limited number of photos, none of mine appear. Am I going about this the wrong way?
Thanks
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Instead of naming files IMG0000001.jpg it was suggested naming them fish_red_sea_egypt.jpg. Andy, did I understand you correctly that if you had already uploaded the file with the name IMG0000001.jpg, changing the caption to "fish, red sea, egypt" had the same effect as deleting the file and uploading it again renamed as fish_red_sea_egypt.jpg?
Again regarding searchability, how can I affect the text description of my webpage when I google it? See below.
Instead of "30 Jan 2011...." I would rather want to have a text I can choose myself.
If the link in Google is to a gallery then the description of that gallery will appear - at least that's how it appears to work for me.
If the link is to your home page then the information in the 'Bio' section of your control panel should appear in Google but I just checked mine and it doesn't appear to even though it used to
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Thanks for that Denise, but unfortunately I have that set correctly (the same as my Bio info.) but when I search for my domain name (photos.miseast.org) in Google the the info. underneath is along the lines of "20 galleries with 530 photos...." rather than my Bio info as it used to.
I wonder if this is related to the sitemap work that has been going on?
Thats the same here. In Control panel > Account Settings > Search > Homepage Meta Description I have the text I want to appear, but it doesn't (as described in my previous email). Im wondering what prevents it...
Did you recently change it or has it been there for a while (months)?
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I changed mine three or four weeks ago.
Should have been indexed by now...I would think.
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if i do the Site:www.wideshutphotography.com under images i get about 9-10 from my smugmug site, the first 6-8 are few that are on facebook (only 18 in all) i start with abot 5 so this many many hours hours has resulted in 13 photos
now i run my other site www.turbov6camaro.com from my home PC with IIS and I do not have to jump thought all these hoops to get this to work.
This is affecting my business as people in the area can not find me even if they search. I have talked with a least 6-8 people about this
It is also to the point where I feel my images and web site are cluttered due to having to put so much info on the site.
the images above have changed since my last post but remain the same number where i spent days going through my site and changing things at your request, It has had plenty of time to get crawled.
Please tell me if there is a way to fix this or not?
Please do not feed me the excuse that I must have this and description on the photo and on the gallery, doing search on the site i run above, the first page is full of image s from my site and 90% of those are my images.
so do you know whats going on or do you not know and just keep blaming your customers web skills ?
site:www.turbov6camaro.com
as a test i had (now expired) www.wideshutphoto.com running off my server and photos on there would get picked up withing 24 hours sometimes only hours after i posted them but still have yet to show from the smugmug site.
PS I bet $5 that i will have an email no later then this time tomorrow from my Google monitor of "wideshutphotography" about this post
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Why can not You go to Google and Yahoo and tell to them - "Dear Sirs and Madams. Sorry, we do not understand anything in indexing, optimization and rankings. Our customers ask us, and we do not know, what to say. Please help us!"
That really is an unnecessarily rude comment - I hate to see Andy, Smugmug heroes and all who help insulted.
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Yes, sarcasm and rudeness is definitely the best way to get help here. Oh, and also, it's Smugmug's fault that Google takes forever to get their act together, you're so right.
I can say with absolute certainty that Andy, the Dgrin community and The Heroes are without a doubt the most helpful and engaged group of folks I've had the pleasure of interacting with online. I'd kindly ask you to button your lip the next time you feel the need to vent your frustration on the people who volunteer their time and efforts for our mutual betterment.
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