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SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
edited January 15, 2007 in Technique
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  • TylerWTylerW Registered Users Posts: 428 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2007
    Only one?!

    That's a spectacularly beautiful shot. Good work.

    I was reading the thread leading up to it - the whole time I was thinking "at least he doesn't have to worry about getting grime in the mirror box when he changes lenses in there." clap.gif
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    How can you tell it's nicotine?
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    truth wrote:
    How can you tell it's nicotine?

    I can't-



    but I can tell you that the big irony of my job is that it is paid for by the tobacco companies (indirectly of course)-

    I'm not a doctor; I'm not a research scientist; I have seen enough come in for carotid ultrasounds that smoked for years to believe that at least 75% of the ones that have moderate and more severe problems are caused by smoking, along with combinations of high cholesterol, diabetes, history of these kind of problems in the family-
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    Sharp image with great exposure! thumb.gif

    Content? :puke

    Impressive image.

    Regards,
    -joel
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    not good enough for JAMA, please, quit being modest! You know as well as I do that just because it gets published in a scientific journal doesn't make it a good photo... as a matter of fact, science photos are usually more boring than a box of hair.

    Great shot, looking forward to seeing more nod.gif

    Especially if any of my suggestions got used lol3.gif
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    Nice work, George.

    The light looks like the yellow of Na lights in surgery to my eye.

    I mentioned the 200 Macro Nikkor. Sounds like you got a front row seat.
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    pathfinder wrote:
    Nice work, George.

    The light looks like the yellow of Na lights in surgery to my eye.

    I mentioned the 200 Macro Nikkor. Sounds like you got a front row seat.

    close enough to almost get hit by blood and by the irrigation-

    neat stuff-

    thanks for your help-
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 2, 2007
    DoctorIt wrote:
    not good enough for JAMA, please, quit being modest! You know as well as I do that just because it gets published in a scientific journal doesn't make it a good photo... as a matter of fact, science photos are usually more boring than a box of hair.

    Great shot, looking forward to seeing more nod.gif

    Especially if any of my suggestions got used lol3.gif

    thanks for commenting and the advice, erik-
  • Frog LadyFrog Lady Registered Users Posts: 1,091 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    interesting pic George. But I don't personally think that you're seeing any nicotine in there (as far as I know, it doesn't form/collect in any of the artery blocking plaques, but it may accelerate the chemical rxn's that induce the formation of these plaques). The bio geek part of me is curious though if you know if most of what you're seeing along the walls of the artery is the smooth muscle layer around the artery or part of the plaque? What were the docs trying to do that they had to open up the artery?

    tx,

    C.
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  • MitchellMitchell Registered Users Posts: 3,503 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    George,
    I take shots like this every day. This is a good first attempt and gives a good general feel for the surgical field.

    The key with these shots is to get real close and be able to label easily identifiable structures. Your shot shows to much of the field and retractors with not enough of the area of interest.

    I shoot mine with a 60mm or 105mm macro lens and a ring flash. I usually have the nurse keep an eye on me to warn me if I'm getting too close.eek7.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    gefillmore wrote:
    sorry-

    this is causing just a little more problems than I thought it would-

    sorry for the trouble-
    Really? Sez who? ne_nau.gif
    I changed it from an embedded photo to a link. That's it.

    Seems like there is some good discussion going on. Please return the link! Bring back the link! :D

    What's the problem? ear.gif
  • PupatorPupator Registered Users Posts: 2,322 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    I clicked on this thread because I was promised blood and guts. Where are my blood and guts?!?!

    Not to mention the feedback on the image is excellent - I'd sure like to see the image.
  • BakatBakat Registered Users Posts: 155 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    I'm with the previous posts; I was warned about the B&G, so if my delicate sensibilities get offended it's my problem. I just love medical photography.

    Kat
    "Photography is not a sport. It has no rules"
    Bill Brandt
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    What's the problem? ear.gif
    problem: george is self-admitted curmudgeon!!! and he's showing it off today! lol3.gif

    link it up george, or do i have to do it for you? deal.gif

    and I'm sure there's more, don't be shy, just give us a link to a whole gallery so we can browse on our own.
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • MitchellMitchell Registered Users Posts: 3,503 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    Who knew you guys would be interested in blood and guts?

    I should start posting some of my surgical shots here. It looks like I would get a lot more response than from my portraits!ne_nau.gif
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    I feel so cheated. I read the first thread posted before the fact. Found this one this morning - no photo & no link.

    I'm disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing the images.

    Oh well!
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    Link!!!
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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  • PoseidonPoseidon Registered Users Posts: 504 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    Please put it back!

    I am fascinated with surgery! Heck I WATCHED my own knee surgery, it was AWESOME! I also kept trying to get a peak in my wife's C-Section, I even held the camera up over the curtain a few times! The darn nurses kept telling me to sit down, they thought I would faint or something....

    I can post Makayla's first moments, but unfortunately they are not particuarly good, I guess Dad was just to excited!
    Mike LaPorte
    Perfect Pix
  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    I hope my post with the barf-smilie wasn't a factor in George's decision. That was a perhaps poor attempt at humor on my part (and an excuse to use the smilie.) I was very much impressed by the image as I hope the rest of my post conveyed.

    Regards,
    -joel
  • TylerWTylerW Registered Users Posts: 428 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    I hope my post with the barf-smilie wasn't a factor in George's decision. That was a perhaps poor attempt at humor on my part (and an excuse to use the smilie.) I was very much impressed by the image as I hope the rest of my post conveyed.

    Regards,
    -joel

    Unless its a problem with patient privacy and hospital liability. I hope it isn't.
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    I feel so cheated. I read the first thread posted before the fact. Found this one this morning - no photo & no link.

    I'm disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing the images.

    Oh well!

    15524779-Ti.gif

    come on George, come back out and play.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    TylerW wrote:
    Unless its a problem with patient privacy and hospital liability. I hope it isn't.


    That was my concernne_nau.gif
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    I apologize to all re my freaking curmudgeonly (thanks erik) self-

    1) no problem re patient-we have the release blahblah, but I jumped the gun on checking with the doc and getting his ok (which I have now)--

    2) it wasn't a problem with changing it to a link-I understood and I should have checked first-

    3) today four years ago my oldest son was killed and my wife and I have been in pretty bad shape leading up to today-one reason why I'm bipolar here on the forum-and so iffy on these pics-

    4) what I would like to do is build a gallery on this (450+ pics)(a lot redundant) with commentary and just keep a thread open with a link to it from here, if that's ok-

    5) I'm out of town until this weekend so I'll get started saturday-

    6) Andy, Shay, whomever, if you want to and can repost the link, please do-

    7) again, sorry-
  • Frog LadyFrog Lady Registered Users Posts: 1,091 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    gefillmore wrote:
    3) today four years ago my oldest son was killed and my wife and I have been in pretty bad shape leading up to today-one reason why I'm bipolar here on the forum-and so iffy on these pics-

    first thought: "oh George, I'm so sorry". I hope I never have to deal with the gut wrenching that a loss of a child would bring. I doubt I would never fully be over it, so I understand the roller coaster you must be on right now.

    we'll be here when you're ready and have time and I for one am looking forwards to seeing what you got.

    C.
    Colleen
    ***********************************
    check out my (sports) pics: ColleenBonney.smugmug.com

    *Thanks to Boolsacho for the avatar photo (from the dgrin portrait project)
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    We forgive you george :D

    (sorry about your rough day. I have a favorite professor at UMass who also has one very sad day each year, I never know what to say)
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    gefillmore wrote:

    6) Andy, Shay, whomever, if you want to and can repost the link, please do-
    just reply to this post, with the link and I'll edit the first post. deal.gif
  • Jeff FillmoreJeff Fillmore Registered Users Posts: 411 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    Take care George - this place will be here when you get back.
    Thanks!
    Jeff

    flickr

  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    just reply to this post, with the link and I'll edit the first post. deal.gif

    will be friday night or saturday am-

    thanks-
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 3, 2007
    thanks all-

    I'm not trying to gain sympathy-

    just trying to explain why I'm freaking nuts at times-
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2007
    All the sympathy in the world to you, George. No worries.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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