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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited January 4, 2007
    gefillmore wrote:
    thanks all-

    I'm not trying to gain sympathy-

    just trying to explain why I'm freaking nuts at times-
    Everyone is entitled to being "freaking nuts" from time to time. You have more justification than most. A very dear friend died a couple of years ago and I suffer with that. And that's not even a patch on what you must be going through.

    I'm certain I speak for many here in offering heartfelt condolences, warm wishes, and prayers.
  • SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited January 5, 2007
    Ok...I feel I've been duped...no picture...where's the picture? Ok I know it sounds a little morbid...but I want to see the blood and guts pic...eek7.gif
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 5, 2007
    Seneca wrote:
    Ok...I feel I've been duped...no picture...where's the picture? Ok I know it sounds a little morbid...but I want to see the blood and guts pic...eek7.gif

    sorry texas-

    wasn't trying to dupe or defraud anyone-

    I did not handle this in the best manner and
    there were some issues to be dealt with-

    will be trying to repost this weekend (as a link)-
  • christulkchristulk Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited January 5, 2007
    Link!!!!thumb.gif
    C&C always welcomed.

    Cheers

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 6, 2007
  • GraphyFotozGraphyFotoz Registered Users Posts: 2,267 Major grins
    edited January 6, 2007
    I know I was warned....noisy had to look! :puke
    Is interesting tho! :D
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  • Frog LadyFrog Lady Registered Users Posts: 1,091 Major grins
    edited January 6, 2007
    fascinating series. I appreciated the running commentary in the gallery as wellclap.gif

    thanks for posting this.

    C.
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  • SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited January 6, 2007
    Andy wrote:

    Thanks for the Link Andy....... I missed this the first time round too :D
    Very nicely done indeed Mr Gefillmore clap.gif not gory at all, I've seen worse, that series if very tame indeed ...... Skippy
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited January 6, 2007
    That series does a number of things for me:
    • Renew my awe in/of the human body and it's complexity
    • Renew my respect for the competent medical personnel we have
    • Makes me wonder how they (the medical people) know that they got it all and that there isn't some more just above or below the surgical site.
    This was really cool. Thanks, Andy, for providing the link.
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 6, 2007
    thanks all-

    sorry for the delay-

    scott asked how they know whether they got all the plaque-

    well, they have-

    possibly gotten an angiogram- where the contrast is injected and shows whether the vessel is open and where it might be occluded or very narrow-

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    this is a fluoroscopy, a type of angiogram-

    this is of a patient's blood vessel in the leg showing a stenosis, or narrowing probably due to plaque, in the lower third of the image (it looks like it's been pinched)-

    usually our docs check the patient's ultrasound:

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    this is what I do-

    this shows flow thru the carotid and we have a couple of ways of determining normal or abnormal flow-

    the above image shows normal flow thru the common and internal carotid-

    the surgeon therefore has a fairly good idea where the plaque is located and while the carotid is open is checking on either side of where they removed the plaque to see that the carotid is adequately open-

    so, if I'm at work, I'm taking ultrasound images; if I'm not at work, I'm taking other images-
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 7, 2007
    Fascinating, I'm glad you let us look at the gallery.
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  • RistyzRistyz Registered Users Posts: 58 Big grins
    edited January 7, 2007
    Thanks for the post! Most informative and interesting and very nice clear shots of the procedure. I am most impressed.

    It would appear I've got some practicing to do before I get as good at you at photographing surgeries....
  • SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited January 9, 2007
    Yikes...I asked for it...eek7.gif ...Ok I didn't read all of the commentary...so forgive me if the answer was somewhere in that series of pictures...but how the heck did you get to take pictures of an actual surgery? Wowza...that was pretty amazing.

    Oh and these pictures are good enough for JAMA! See it says right here that you are deal.gif .

    Very interesting. Probably the most interesting thread I've seen here.

    Thanks for posting.
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 9, 2007
    thanks texas-

    I work for the surgeon (as a vascular ultrasound tech)-

    I've taken photos for him before in other situations and I guess he thinks I do a credible job-

    I asked re surgery; he said ok-

    a very neat experience-

    appreciate you commenting-
  • wholenewlightwholenewlight Registered Users Posts: 1,529 Major grins
    edited January 9, 2007
    gefillmore wrote:
    thanks texas-

    I work for the surgeon (as a vascular ultrasound tech)-

    I've taken photos for him before in other situations and I guess he thinks I do a credible job-

    I asked re surgery; he said ok-

    a very neat experience-

    appreciate you commenting-
    great shots, George

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  • MaestroMaestro Registered Users Posts: 5,395 Major grins
    edited January 9, 2007
    Fascinating! Thanks for allow us to see this. Wow! Just wow!
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 9, 2007
    john and maestro-

    thanks for looking and commenting-
  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited January 9, 2007
    Unbelievable
    That is the most plaque I've seen removed! I found the gallery fascinating. I wish we'd had photos this great when we were doing "case studies" for one of our medical device clients. Most of the plaque we saw photos of was removed from the heart using a "cutter" device threaded on a catheter through the groin.

    Your photos are so nicely exposed too... great job you did.

    I like the "yes" written on the patient! :D
  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited January 10, 2007
    Maestro wrote:
    Fascinating! Thanks for allow us to see this. Wow! Just wow!

    15524779-Ti.gif I can't say it any better. Except maybe to add another wow.

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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 10, 2007
    thanks much gina and dee-
  • cloveclove Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited January 14, 2007
    Very interesting. What do you think the odds are of a surgical team letting a non-medical person (like me) in to photograph a surgery?
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 15, 2007
    clove wrote:
    Very interesting. What do you think the odds are of a surgical team letting a non-medical person (like me) in to photograph a surgery?

    shawn-

    thanks for commenting-


    re odds-

    sorry, but probably slim to none-

    unless-

    you know or get to know the surgeon-

    you get to know a surg tech who might try to help-

    you know the patient-

    your reputation is such that they agree to it-

    just my thoughts-


    I'm just fortunate to know and work for the doc and he likes my photography-

    I'm not sure that I could have had the opportunity any other way-

    who knows-
    you want it bad enough, you might be able to make it happen-


    just my thoughts-
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