Yes, thanks for the tip on how to save the settings. I had tried to save the settings under a new profile, which didn't work, but didn't try to overwrite the default.
I do hate overwriting the vendor's default settings though. They developed the software and should have the best understanding of the results they'll provide. I did write them down though in case I want to go back to them.
I'd still much prefer being able to create a new channel. I just need to figure out if that is worth $60 to me (assuming allow the upgrade as I've already bought the Std version).
A question I have is, since i2e and DxO are alternatives, if I upload JPGs to smugmug that have already been processed using DxO or i2e, what happens when Smugmug's autocolor invokes i2e on the pre-processed JPG? Should I use truecolor to print JPGs that have already been processed through DxO or i2e, or leave autocolor on?
Good to know! Does i2e stick any metadata inside the image after being processed? If so, it would be cool if SmugMug could scan for that and not re-auto any images which come from user-based i2e, even if "Auto" is the printing mode.
Good to know! Does i2e stick any metadata inside the image after being processed? If so, it would be cool if SmugMug could scan for that and not re-auto any images which come from user-based i2e, even if "Auto" is the printing mode.
Good to know! Does i2e stick any metadata inside the image after being processed? If so, it would be cool if SmugMug could scan for that and not re-auto any images which come from user-based i2e, even if "Auto" is the printing mode.
-Greg
Now that *would* be very useful! I have not yet tried i2e, but DxO does place information in the software field of the image's EXIF: "DxO Optics Pro Standard 4.1 (WIN32) plus some letters/numbers that might be license related"
Hmmm...can standard and power accounts turn off autocolor to avoid the "auto on top of auto" situation? I'm only seeing truecolor selectable in my pro account, not my power account.
Hmmm...can standard and power accounts turn off autocolor to avoid the "auto on top of auto" situation? I'm only seeing truecolor selectable in my pro account, not my power account.
Thanks again,
Duck
True color is only a Pro Option, sorry I don't have a better answer for you right now.
Okay, so I know this question has technically been answered, but I seem to be a bit thick.
Which version should I get?
I was rereading the thread and I'm woefully uneducated about in computer post processing. But, it looks like I'd be better off with the stand alone standard version with RAW, right? Nix the PS plug in? Or is the Pro version what I should go for?
I'd want to batch edit from around 300-1000 at a time. Maybe RAW. Then, I'm guessing I'd run them, as RAW files through i2e. NOT thru ACR???? And, use Andy's magic settings?
Okay, so I know this question has technically been answered, but I seem to be a bit thick.
Which version should I get?
I was rereading the thread and I'm woefully uneducated about in computer post processing. But, it looks like I'd be better off with the stand alone standard version with RAW, right? Nix the PS plug in? Or is the Pro version what I should go for?
I'd want to batch edit from around 300-1000 at a time. Maybe RAW. Then, I'm guessing I'd run them, as RAW files through i2e. NOT thru ACR???? And, use Andy's magic settings?
Sorry.
Get the standard version.
The money you save from not buying the pro which you don't need, you can use for drop
Man, I wish I had read this yesterday! I just ordered a bunch of 8X12 prints from Merritt Island.
I ran mine through ie2, but ordered Auto, thinking that a little more in a print was ok.
Any guess what will turn out?
Z
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I just set up the Pro version (2.4.3) of I2E, unlocked with the key, and have read all of the help manual, which was helpful but left questions unanswered.
Several setting dialogue boxes described in the manual were not visible to me in the program window:
General Image Correction
Color Management
Downsizing
I/O folders
Sharpening
Raw file
Apparently the manual was written for the previous version, and hopefully will be updated soon.
In case you were looking for them, too, I just discovered them under the Channel Settings button in the upper right.
They arrived, magnificently packaged, and were excellent.
I got the lustre finish and it really turned out nicely.
The 8X12 is a great size, and mine looked as I expected. No worries here - good work.
Z
It is the purpose of life that each of us strives to become actually what he is potentially. We should be obsessed with stretching towards that goal through the world we inhabit.
I just set up the Pro version (2.4.3) of I2E, unlocked with the key, and have read all of the help manual, which was helpful but left questions unanswered.
Several setting dialogue boxes described in the manual were not visible to me in the program window:
General Image Correction
Color Management
Downsizing
I/O folders
Sharpening
Raw file
Apparently the manual was written for the previous version, and hopefully will be updated soon.
In case you were looking for them, too, I just discovered them under the Channel Settings button in the upper right.
This looks very interesting. I am comparing it to bellamax upshot- which I have found helpful in large quick batch processing as well- like the 400 shots I took at the football game a couple of weeks ago.
Does this version of i2e not do any redeye correction? Redeye is discussed in the manual, but I don't see any settings in the vesion I just downloaded- and in a couple of tries the dreaded redeye persists. Yes I know how to shoot to avoid it, but with a pocket sized point and shoot it is sometimes difficult to avoid.
Thanks
gary
This looks very interesting. I am comparing it to bellamax upshot- which I have found helpful in large quick batch processing as well- like the 400 shots I took at the football game a couple of weeks ago.
Does this version of i2e not do any redeye correction? Redeye is discussed in the manual, but I don't see any settings in the vesion I just downloaded- and in a couple of tries the dreaded redeye persists. Yes I know how to shoot to avoid it, but with a pocket sized point and shoot it is sometimes difficult to avoid.
Thanks
gary
This looks very interesting. I am comparing it to bellamax upshot- which I have found helpful in large quick batch processing as well- like the 400 shots I took at the football game a couple of weeks ago.
Does this version of i2e not do any redeye correction? Redeye is discussed in the manual, but I don't see any settings in the vesion I just downloaded- and in a couple of tries the dreaded redeye persists. Yes I know how to shoot to avoid it, but with a pocket sized point and shoot it is sometimes difficult to avoid.
Thanks
gary
Gary -- did you ever get a response to this? My assumption is that they are relying on their face recognition and eye recognition technology to do the red eye correction and that there is no independent way to correct red-eye or at least there is no specific red-eye correction tool that I can find.
I did not write to ask yet- but at least in my testing the was no red eye correction- and I tried with some REALLY red eyes. This is not a make or break thing for me, but I will write in and let the group know their response.
Gary
I did not write to ask yet- but at least in my testing the was no red eye correction- and I tried with some REALLY red eyes. This is not a make or break thing for me, but I will write in and let the group know their response.
Gary
I just went back thru a bunch of my pictures at my daughter's birthday where there were red-eyes aplenty and it didn't correct them at all (regardless of the angle between the camera and the face.)
I did not write to ask yet- but at least in my testing the was no red eye correction- and I tried with some REALLY red eyes. This is not a make or break thing for me, but I will write in and let the group know their response.
Gary
Here was their response about red eye correction:
Red eye will only be integrated in the next version of Image Editor. We had
a red eye library from Fotonation inside, but the result was in no relation
to the price of the library.
I will say their response was quick- good service support!
Does anyone know their upgrade policy? If I buy this version am I eligable for future upgrades? Are they due for a significant upgrade soon?
Been there, done that. I thought I was s#%wed by DXO when I purchased their elite edition for $300, an upgrade was announced 18 days later, and I had to pay another $200 for the upgrade. Looks like I'll write them again.
Gary
Here was their response about red eye correction:
Red eye will only be integrated in the next version of Image Editor. We had
a red eye library from Fotonation inside, but the result was in no relation
to the price of the library.
I will say their response was quick- good service support!
Does anyone know their upgrade policy? If I buy this version am I eligable for future upgrades? Are they due for a significant upgrade soon?
Been there, done that. I thought I was s#%wed by DXO when I purchased their elite edition for $300, an upgrade was announced 18 days later, and I had to pay another $200 for the upgrade. Looks like I'll write them again.
Gary
Gary, here is the response I got from Frank:
It will be in the next 2.5 version, but I think I need 2 more month to finish it because we are all working right now on an other project.Also with Smugmug discount your password will also work for the new versions.
Since I asked if there would be any upgrade cost if we bought it w/ the SmugMug discount, I'm assuming that there is no additional cost for the next version.
It looks like the ICC Profiling is only available on the Pro Edition. Based on my understanding of "ICC Profiling", I can download the ICC Data from my local Costco (I know where to find it), and put that data into the program so the saved .jpg will print properly on their printer...right?
Is this NOT POSSIBLE, even with another free program, if I get the Standard Edition?
It looks like the ICC Profiling is only available on the Pro Edition. Based on my understanding of "ICC Profiling", I can download the ICC Data from my local Costco (I know where to find it), and put that data into the program so the saved .jpg will print properly on their printer...right?
Is this NOT POSSIBLE, even with another free program, if I get the Standard Edition?
Thanks!,
~Rob
I don't know Rob, you should write Colour-Science.
It looks like the ICC Profiling is only available on the Pro Edition. Based on my understanding of "ICC Profiling", I can download the ICC Data from my local Costco (I know where to find it), and put that data into the program so the saved .jpg will print properly on their printer...right?
Is this NOT POSSIBLE, even with another free program, if I get the Standard Edition?
Thanks!,
~Rob
Rob -- based on the blurb on the site linked by Andy in the original post, I believe that you are correct -- only the pro version sounds like it is color management aware for the printer (I'm assuming that, if you have calibrated your monitor, it is using your monitor profile for display in all versions, but not sure about that either now.) If you get a confirmation from Frank, can you post back here?
As for outputting to another program that lets you pick an output printer profile, I'm assuming that you'd need to soft-proof first to make sure that i2e got the color right for the printer/paper combination, make any tweaks, and then print.
Rob -- based on the blurb on the site linked by Andy in the original post, I believe that you are correct -- only the pro version sounds like it is color management aware for the printer (I'm assuming that, if you have calibrated your monitor, it is using your monitor profile for display in all versions, but not sure about that either now.) If you get a confirmation from Frank, can you post back here?
As for outputting to another program that lets you pick an output printer profile, I'm assuming that you'd need to soft-proof first to make sure that i2e got the color right for the printer/paper combination, make any tweaks, and then print.
Frank just confirmed what you just said
"ICC profiling is only in the Pro version"
So I guess the issue is that ICC profiling isn't embedded IN the i2e software, so its not a factor in the processing? That means if I use other software to attach ICC data into the photo, it might change how the picture looks, forcing me to enhance manually?
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I do hate overwriting the vendor's default settings though. They developed the software and should have the best understanding of the results they'll provide. I did write them down though in case I want to go back to them.
I'd still much prefer being able to create a new channel. I just need to figure out if that is worth $60 to me (assuming allow the upgrade as I've already bought the Std version).
Very interesting sw...thanks for pointing it out, and also for the discount. FYI, a brief review of i2e and several other packages ranked i2e best overall. You might enjoy reading it here: http://erdmenger.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/automatic-image-optimization-conclusion/
A question I have is, since i2e and DxO are alternatives, if I upload JPGs to smugmug that have already been processed using DxO or i2e, what happens when Smugmug's autocolor invokes i2e on the pre-processed JPG? Should I use truecolor to print JPGs that have already been processed through DxO or i2e, or leave autocolor on?
Thanks!
The Duck
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Good to know! Does i2e stick any metadata inside the image after being processed? If so, it would be cool if SmugMug could scan for that and not re-auto any images which come from user-based i2e, even if "Auto" is the printing mode.
-Greg
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Now that *would* be very useful! I have not yet tried i2e, but DxO does place information in the software field of the image's EXIF: "DxO Optics Pro Standard 4.1 (WIN32) plus some letters/numbers that might be license related"
Be seeing you,
Duck
Hmmm...can standard and power accounts turn off autocolor to avoid the "auto on top of auto" situation? I'm only seeing truecolor selectable in my pro account, not my power account.
Thanks again,
Duck
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Which version should I get?
I was rereading the thread and I'm woefully uneducated about in computer post processing. But, it looks like I'd be better off with the stand alone standard version with RAW, right? Nix the PS plug in? Or is the Pro version what I should go for?
I'd want to batch edit from around 300-1000 at a time. Maybe RAW. Then, I'm guessing I'd run them, as RAW files through i2e. NOT thru ACR???? And, use Andy's magic settings?
Sorry.
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Man, I wish I had read this yesterday! I just ordered a bunch of 8X12 prints from Merritt Island.
I ran mine through ie2, but ordered Auto, thinking that a little more in a print was ok.
Any guess what will turn out?
Z
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Several setting dialogue boxes described in the manual were not visible to me in the program window:
General Image Correction
Color Management
Downsizing
I/O folders
Sharpening
Raw file
Apparently the manual was written for the previous version, and hopefully will be updated soon.
In case you were looking for them, too, I just discovered them under the Channel Settings button in the upper right.
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Andy:
They arrived, magnificently packaged, and were excellent.
I got the lustre finish and it really turned out nicely.
The 8X12 is a great size, and mine looked as I expected. No worries here - good work.
Z
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Does this version of i2e not do any redeye correction? Redeye is discussed in the manual, but I don't see any settings in the vesion I just downloaded- and in a couple of tries the dreaded redeye persists. Yes I know how to shoot to avoid it, but with a pocket sized point and shoot it is sometimes difficult to avoid.
Thanks
gary
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Gary -- did you ever get a response to this? My assumption is that they are relying on their face recognition and eye recognition technology to do the red eye correction and that there is no independent way to correct red-eye or at least there is no specific red-eye correction tool that I can find.
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Red eye will only be integrated in the next version of Image Editor. We had
a red eye library from Fotonation inside, but the result was in no relation
to the price of the library.
I will say their response was quick- good service support!
Does anyone know their upgrade policy? If I buy this version am I eligable for future upgrades? Are they due for a significant upgrade soon?
Been there, done that. I thought I was s#%wed by DXO when I purchased their elite edition for $300, an upgrade was announced 18 days later, and I had to pay another $200 for the upgrade. Looks like I'll write them again.
Gary
Gary, here is the response I got from Frank:
Since I asked if there would be any upgrade cost if we bought it w/ the SmugMug discount, I'm assuming that there is no additional cost for the next version.
http://mkress65.zenfolio.com
http://mkress65.smugmug.com
Gary
Quick question-
It looks like the ICC Profiling is only available on the Pro Edition. Based on my understanding of "ICC Profiling", I can download the ICC Data from my local Costco (I know where to find it), and put that data into the program so the saved .jpg will print properly on their printer...right?
Is this NOT POSSIBLE, even with another free program, if I get the Standard Edition?
Thanks!,
~Rob
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Rob -- based on the blurb on the site linked by Andy in the original post, I believe that you are correct -- only the pro version sounds like it is color management aware for the printer (I'm assuming that, if you have calibrated your monitor, it is using your monitor profile for display in all versions, but not sure about that either now.) If you get a confirmation from Frank, can you post back here?
As for outputting to another program that lets you pick an output printer profile, I'm assuming that you'd need to soft-proof first to make sure that i2e got the color right for the printer/paper combination, make any tweaks, and then print.
http://mkress65.zenfolio.com
http://mkress65.smugmug.com
Frank just confirmed what you just said
"ICC profiling is only in the Pro version"
So I guess the issue is that ICC profiling isn't embedded IN the i2e software, so its not a factor in the processing? That means if I use other software to attach ICC data into the photo, it might change how the picture looks, forcing me to enhance manually?
Am I getting this right?