film strip border?

yvonneyvonne Registered Users Posts: 193 Major grins
edited November 25, 2005 in Finishing School
Remember the id strip you used to get on negatives when you created a contact sheet in the darkroom (yes, FILM!)? The bit with the holes and numbers at the top? When you printed up the contacts they would come up as black borders..

Any idea if there is a way of doing that in Photoshop? thus creating the look of a film strip contact?
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2005
    yvonne wrote:
    Remember the id strip you used to get on negatives when you created a contact sheet in the darkroom (yes, FILM!)? The bit with the holes and numbers at the top? When you printed up the contacts they would come up as black borders..

    Any idea if there is a way of doing that in Photoshop? thus creating the look of a film strip contact?

    go to atncentral, there's an action there i've seen it but cannot remember the name :D
  • yvonneyvonne Registered Users Posts: 193 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2005
    andy wrote:
    go to atncentral, there's an action there i've seen it but cannot remember the name :D
    Happy Days! I didn't know this website - it's great. Will keep me busy for ages!

    Thanks, Andy
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    yvonne wrote:
    Happy Days! I didn't know this website - it's great. Will keep me busy for ages!
    Did you find anything that did the negative strip look? I saw one action for a border, but was a single negative only, not a strip of negatives (say, 3 or 4 photo spaces, not just one).
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  • XO-StudiosXO-Studios Registered Users Posts: 457 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    mercphoto wrote:
    Did you find anything that did the negative strip look? I saw one action for a border, but was a single negative only, not a strip of negatives (say, 3 or 4 photo spaces, not just one).
    I have PSD's for:
    -4x5 sheets
    -35mm film
    -35mm slide
    and PDF that show all Kodak and Fuji codes, but the files are HUGE.

    Shoot me an email and we will work something out.

    XO,
    You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
    Mark Twain


    Some times I get lucky and when that happens I show the results here: http://www.xo-studios.com
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    XO-Studios wrote:
    I have PSD's for:
    -4x5 sheets
    -35mm film
    -35mm slide
    and PDF that show all Kodak and Fuji codes, but the files are HUGE.

    Shoot me an email and we will work something out.
    Thanks. Email sent.
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  • BodwickBodwick Registered Users Posts: 396 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    yvonne wrote:
    Remember the id strip you used to get on negatives when you created a contact sheet in the darkroom (yes, FILM!)? The bit with the holes and numbers at the top? When you printed up the contacts they would come up as black borders..

    Any idea if there is a way of doing that in Photoshop? thus creating the look of a film strip contact?
    Full info and files for a single 35mm or a strip....

    http://epaperpress.com/psphoto/

    Go to downloads and then film frames, 35mm....
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  • XO-StudiosXO-Studios Registered Users Posts: 457 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    Bodwick wrote:
    Full info and files for a single 35mm or a strip....

    http://epaperpress.com/psphoto/

    Go to downloads and then film frames, 35mm....
    Coincidentally, that is the exact file(s) I was talking about, they work like a charm.

    XO,
    You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
    Mark Twain


    Some times I get lucky and when that happens I show the results here: http://www.xo-studios.com
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    XO-Studios wrote:
    Coincidentally, that is the exact file(s) I was talking about, they work like a charm.

    XO,

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  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    andy wrote:
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    Ok, OK, already......................
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2005
    andy wrote:
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    #3 I can't quite figure out how to easily use this though????

    Sam
  • XO-StudiosXO-Studios Registered Users Posts: 457 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    Sam wrote:
    #3 I can't quite figure out how to easily use this though????

    Sam
    The layer holding the RED square with a resolution on there, just plop your image in there.

    XO,
    You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
    Mark Twain


    Some times I get lucky and when that happens I show the results here: http://www.xo-studios.com
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    XO-Studios wrote:
    The layer holding the RED square with a resolution on there, just plop your image in there.

    XO,
    DUH!!!! I was way over thinking this, or I was tired, or brain stopped working. :D

    Thanks,

    Sam
  • tmlphototmlphoto Registered Users Posts: 1,444 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    Here is one I worked up. Took about 30 seconds. Thanks for the link. Really cool.
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    Thomas :D

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  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    andy wrote:
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    For you, Andy :)
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  • MitchellMitchell Registered Users Posts: 3,503 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    I really like this effect!!

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  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    Anyone know why the single frame has a nice drop shadow effect, but the three frame example does not? I kept thinking my pic was missing something, that it looked flat, then it dawned on me. No drop shadow on the three frame.
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  • XO-StudiosXO-Studios Registered Users Posts: 457 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    mercphoto wrote:
    Anyone know why the single frame has a nice drop shadow effect, but the three frame example does not? I kept thinking my pic was missing something, that it looked flat, then it dawned on me. No drop shadow on the three frame.
    In the single frame, look at the second layer from the bottom, you will see it has a drop shadow.

    On the triple frame, expand the layer set called film 2, it has each of the three frames. Give each of them a drop shadow to taste.

    Also, this is a great film frame to combine with the technique shown in this thread:http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=15832

    FWIW,

    XO,
    You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
    Mark Twain


    Some times I get lucky and when that happens I show the results here: http://www.xo-studios.com
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 9, 2005
    Cool. Drop shadows helps a lot. Thanks.

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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited August 9, 2005
    Bodwick wrote:
    Full info and files for a single 35mm or a strip....

    http://epaperpress.com/psphoto/

    Go to downloads and then film frames, 35mm....
    very cool. thanks. thumb.gif
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    I got some advice from a motocross photographer friend of mine. To make things easier on photo placement (i.e. to allow a little slop), do what art framers do when it comes to matting a print. In other words, the opening is a bit smaller than the photo.

    What Marc did was remove the red portion where the photo is dropped. He then sizes the image a bit bigger than the 2000 by 3000 pixels and slides the image under the film strip.
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  • cletuscletus Registered Users Posts: 1,930 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    Making Life Easier
    Bodwick wrote:
    Full info and files for a single 35mm or a strip....

    http://epaperpress.com/psphoto/

    Go to downloads and then film frames, 35mm....
    Thanks for the link thumb.gif

    I've already saved the 35mm Film Frame vector mask off as a custom shape.

    I had built a 35mm slide mount frame:

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    After I had the slide mount drawn as a path I saved it as a custom shape. I also set up a layer style for the slide mount that took care of color, bevel/emboss and drop shadow. The custom shape and the layer style get combined into a Custom Shape Tool Preset. So now to add the slide mount to an image I select the custom shape tool, select the preset and click-drag to draw a slide mount on a new shape layer.

    The film frame effect is a bit more involved than the slide mount, but I'm sure some of the same tricks could be used to make things quick and easy.
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    That all sounds lovely Cletus. Cool, useful, neat. All that. Just wish it didn't go over my head. I have so much to learn about Photoshop...

    I do have a particular question though. I notice the original three strip uses layer sets (I think that is the correct term). This appears to be a hierarchial grouping of layers. It also appears to be rather convenient, especially when duplicating, or turning invisible. So...

    1) How deep a hierarchy can layer sets go?
    2) Is there a way to take the exist three layer sets (image 1, 2 and 3) and turn that into a super-group?
    3) If not, is there a way to take multiple layers and duplicate them into a new document at one time?
    4) If not, is there a way to select multiple layers and move them in unison in a document, so that they all stay aligned with each other?

    As an example of this, consider the example I posted with two film strips, one of which was rotated 10 degrees. The only way I knew to do this was to start with a new document. Then open the film strip. Flatten it, copy the single layer to the new document, then position. Then re-open the film strip, flatten, make a reveal mask, rotate, then duplicate to the new document and position it. There must be a better way.

    If, for example, my "six frame" document had all layers intact still, I could easily switch from Fuji to Kodak on demand, renumber the frames, etc.
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  • XO-StudiosXO-Studios Registered Users Posts: 457 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    1) How deep a hierarchy can layer sets go?

    I think 3 but I am not sure

    2) Is there a way to take the exist three layer sets (image 1, 2 and 3) and turn that into a super-group?

    Yes just drag and drop after first creating your (super) layer set.

    3) If not, is there a way to take multiple layers and duplicate them into a new document at one time?

    Yes again just use the move tool and drag and drop

    4) If not, is there a way to select multiple layers and move them in unison in a document, so that they all stay aligned with each other?

    yes but I never use it, so I would have to look it up, I know in CS2 it is CTRL-click, not sure about CS which is what I use. in either one you need the move tool (V) to actually do it.

    As an example of this, consider the example I posted with two film strips, one of which was rotated 10 degrees. The only way I knew to do this was to start with a new document. Then open the film strip. Flatten it, copy the single layer to the new document, then position. Then re-open the film strip, flatten, make a reveal mask, rotate, then duplicate to the new document and position it. There must be a better way.

    If, for example, my "six frame" document had all layers intact still, I could easily switch from Fuji to Kodak on demand, renumber the frames, etc.

    All very doable

    XO,
    You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
    Mark Twain


    Some times I get lucky and when that happens I show the results here: http://www.xo-studios.com
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    mercphoto wrote:
    2) Is there a way to take the exist three layer sets (image 1, 2 and 3) and turn that into a super-group?


    I'd have to read my book again, but wouldn't "snapshot" work for that?
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  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2005
    OK....yesterday XO-Studios had an example of a film strip that looked like it was curred up with a drop shadow that even showed the holes.

    What the heck happened to it?

    I wanted to get the instutions on how to do that. :cry :cry :cry

    Sam
  • Blues fanBlues fan Registered Users Posts: 67 Big grins
    edited August 20, 2005
    Sam wrote:
    OK....yesterday XO-Studios had an example of a film strip that looked like it was curred up with a drop shadow that even showed the holes.

    What the heck happened to it?

    I wanted to get the instutions on how to do that. :cry :cry :cry

    Sam
    Here is the thread for the curved film strip. http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=15832

    I liked it so much I made it part of my banner on my page. And I still can't get it to look quite like XO did.
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  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 21, 2005
    Blues fan wrote:
    I liked it so much I made it part of my banner on my page. And I still can't get it to look quite like XO did.

    When you made yoru banner, what dpi did you use? And how many inches in each direction? Thanks. Should I just use 72 dpi, and size it so that it looks reasonable at 100% in Photoshop?
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  • Blues fanBlues fan Registered Users Posts: 67 Big grins
    edited August 24, 2005
    mercphoto wrote:
    When you made yoru banner, what dpi did you use? And how many inches in each direction? Thanks. Should I just use 72 dpi, and size it so that it looks reasonable at 100% in Photoshop?
    My banner is 72dpi and the size is 600 x 184. I had tried several different positions and crops of the film strip and ended up with the 184. I belive Smugmug resized my original banner down to 600 everytime I would add a larger one (can't really remember now) so I stuck with 600px wide. I am sure there is a way to make it displayed larger but I am happy with the size I have it at.

    A problem I had was when I saved it for web to save bandwith was the banner looked blotchy so to get the look I wanted I had to save it as a normal jpg file. It may have something to do with the dpi but I am not wise enough in the art of PS to actually know what causes that. You might want to bump up the resolution a little if you are going to try this yourself I dunno.
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  • DavidoffDavidoff Registered Users Posts: 409 Major grins
    edited August 29, 2005
    thanks, really cool

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