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Assignment #40: 40mph+

NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
edited October 17, 2008 in Assignments
I'm sure everybody got enough profiles in their portfolio for the rest of this year. Let's switch to something more dynamic. Much more dynamic.

The new goal is to shoot dead ahead of at 90degree angle from the side from a moving vehicle that moves at least 40mph (that 60kmh for our European friends). To ensure safety, please do NOT shoot and drive. Ride a bus, a train, or ask somebody to drive you.

There are several goals.
One is simply try to get a sharp and properly exposed picture - which can be amazingly difficult. :deal

Another is to find a slow shutter speed that would create a zoom effect when shooting straight ahead: the central (farthest) part of the picture should stay sharp, while the periphery should become blurred. :deal

Naturally, shooting back is also a possibility! :wink

About same goes to the side shots. One is to get some nice sharp image. Another is to get a nice motion blur. And of course, there is a combo, when another object with the same speed is sharp, while the b/g is blurred.
Once again, the safety is paramount, don't try this while driving!!! :deal

And for those of you who live in the urban environment, a shot straigt up may create an interesting effect with the bases of the buildings blurred and the tops sharp enough.

One image per entry please. Add some description (what was your goal, how you did it, etc.), and if possible, some basic exif info.

As usual, fresh pictures only (meaning: taken AFTER you have become aware pf this assignment), moderate post-processing. No PS blurring!

For the rest of the basic rules and index please check out this sticky.

Let's get some speed shots! :D
"May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    My 1.st try - Straight ahead 1
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    The EXIF is so much difficult to get now !!! mwink.gif
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    My 1.st try - I'm almost at 90º 1
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    My 1.st try - Straight ahead 2
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    Antonio,
    Thank you for the entries, first two are perfect! thumb.gif
    #3: I kinda doubt you were going 60kmh or faster at the moment in this heavily populated European urban environment headscratch.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Thank you for the entries, first two are perfect! thumb.gif
    #3: I kinda doubt you were going 60kmh or faster at the moment in this heavily populated European urban environment headscratch.gif
    Yes Nikolai.
    We should go at may be 50 kms/h but the road was good because it was narrow and the movement should be well captured.

    Nikolai, have you ever noticed that the EXIF is wronge ?
    Or, it's just me ?

    The lens was the 16-35 and I do know it was set at 16mm.
    The EXIF says the lens is 25.6 in 35 mm.
    What does that mean ?ne_nau.gif

    1.6 (crop factor) * 16 = 25.6 in fact. But in 35 mm ?

    And how could it guess I am using a 1.6 crop camera or a 1.3 crop one ?
    What I am missing here ? ne_nau.gif

    Here it is late afernoon. It is now 8.45h or so. We are going out again to re-shoot and I hope to be able to post more pictures today, in a couple of hours.


    The real difficult for me in this assignment was the shutter speed I could not low down because I was not using the NDF or the CPF because I left it at home.
    :Dthumb.gif
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    My 2.st try - Straight ahead 3
    Bah ! Not a good work.:cry
    The camera was shaking too much. :cry

    Photo taken at about 70 kms/h
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    My 3.st try - Straight ahead 4
    The shutter speed was too low :cry

    Here we were speeding a bit. I saw the tableboard and we were at 70 kms/h at that moment.

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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    Antonio,
    I forgot to metnion that staight back shots are also a possibility mwink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    BeaKeRBeaKeR Registered Users Posts: 112 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    Hints?
    So what's the secret to getting these shots? I've tried doing this type of thing in the past but it has never worked out for me - I either have to shoot so fast that I get no blur, or else everything is blurred by bumpiness/movement. Do you just need a good road?
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    Nikolai.
    Since the beginning I thought the photos to the back were possible.

    Neaker,
    May be the secret is a large car with a super suspension - remember the Citroen DS ? - or a trail like the ones used in films.

    May be, and I will not have the chance to, if the photos were shot from a train for example. There, you could even use a tripod !


    There is a clear incompatibility between slow speed for the expression of the movement and the hight speed, even relative, of the vehicle we are in. The quality of the road is also important.

    Nikolai: no tips ? Or are you waiting for more proposals ?
    :D

    May be after 254 shots we can get one good ! Or 546 shots !
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2007
    BeaKeR wrote:
    So what's the secret to getting these shots? I've tried doing this type of thing in the past but it has never worked out for me - I either have to shoot so fast that I get no blur, or else everything is blurred by bumpiness/movement. Do you just need a good road?

    Well, first of all, you need a designated driver! deal.gif

    Next, you need to do a little math homework with the intention to find a shutter speed and the aperture that would provide for both blurry parts and sharp part of the image. Depending on the time of day, distance to the potential frame subjects and the actual speed your parameters may vary drastically. I would not rely on auto-anything, full manual is the way to go. You will have to use all three possible parameters: ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
    You can also try bracketing.

    HTH
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Steve1962Steve1962 Registered Users Posts: 99 Big grins
    edited June 18, 2007
    Here's one I took
    I thought I'd post this..........it won't count in this competition , because it was taken a while back .......... my wife took this photo whilst riding pillion on my motorbike ........
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 18, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Well, first of all, you need a designated driver! deal.gif

    Next, you need to do a little math homework with the intention to find a shutter speed and the aperture that would provide for both blurry parts and sharp part of the image. Depending on the time of day, distance to the potential frame subjects and the actual speed your parameters may vary drastically. I would not rely on auto-anything, full manual is the way to go. You will have to use all three possible parameters: ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
    You can also try bracketing.

    HTH
    Focus better be at infinity with the AF switched off for the straight ahead shot, while AF on and AI Servo On for the 90 degrees picture :D
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 18, 2007
    Focus better be at infinity with the AF switched off for the straight ahead shot, while AF on and AI Servo On for the 90 degrees picture :D
    IMHO, focus be better at hyperfocal distance in both cases.
    Infinity will soften pretty much the whole shot.
    Since you going for a relatively slow shutter speed (1/40s..1/120s), your aperture will be at least f/8 or slower (unless you're doing a night shot), that would give you a nice hyperfocal range.
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 18, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    IMHO, focus be better at hyperfocal distance in both cases.
    Infinity will soften pretty much the whole shot.
    Since you going for a relatively slow shutter speed (1/40s..1/120s), your aperture will be at least f/8 or slower (unless you're doing a night shot), that would give you a nice hyperfocal range.

    An even better proposal than mine :Dthumb.gif
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
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    One rule (at least) broken. I was driving.
    Shutter speed 1/30 f/11. (Sorry but it is a bore to copy the exif)
    I was driving - and this for all the shots I am going to post today - between 80 kms/h and 100 kms/h.
    CPF used on the 16mm with the 350 D.
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
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    These were the best between some 76 or 78 pictures. May be if I shoot 150 I can get an excellent one ! :D
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
    I have re-treated one of the photos.
    I twisted the crop and made a little Smart Sharp on the end of the road.
    Much better, as you can see. :D
    The lens was set at 17 mm.
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
    Antonio,
    Nice series!
    But I'm really sorry you were driving. Man, all pics in the world would not justify losing one's life over a forum post. It is unsafe, both for your and for your fellow drivers. deal.gif
    Please, PLEASE, don't do that again bowdown.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 20, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Nice series!
    But I'm really sorry you were driving. Man, all pics in the world would not justify losing one's life over a forum post. It is unsafe, both for your and for your fellow drivers. deal.gif
    Please, PLEASE, don't do that again bowdown.gif
    Nikolai.

    It isn't that dangerous.
    The car is automatic and very easy to drive.

    There wasn't any dangerous in any occasion for the others or for myself.
    Thank you for your concern.

    I was expecting to repeat tomorrow but ...:cry
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
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    This one is not super but I like it because of the frame of the car, the woman looking ...
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    mwaltersmwalters Registered Users Posts: 119 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
    Nikolai.

    It isn't that dangerous.
    The car is automatic and very easy to drive.

    There wasn't any dangerous in any occasion for the others or for myself.
    Thank you for your concern.

    I was expecting to repeat tomorrow but ...:cry

    Hi Antonio

    Sorry, I have to agree with Nikolai on this.

    If you weren't holding the steering wheel, or were looking at a viewfinder or even just firing the shutter, then this is dangerous. That's probably why the woman in the other car was looking at you...

    Matthew
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
    mwalters wrote:
    Hi Antonio

    Sorry, I have to agree with Nikolai on this.

    If you weren't holding the steering wheel, or were looking at a viewfinder or even just firing the shutter, then this is dangerous. That's probably why the woman in the other car was looking at you...

    Matthew

    This time I was not driving. :D
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    mwaltersmwalters Registered Users Posts: 119 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
    This time I was not driving. :D

    Sorry, I forgot you sit on the wrong side of the car in Portugal rolleyes1.gif

    Matthew
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    MarkRMarkR Registered Users Posts: 2,099 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    I'm sure everybody got enough profiles in their portfolio for the rest of this year. Let's switch to something more dynamic. Much more dynamic.

    The new goal is to shoot dead ahead of at 90degree angle from the side from a moving vehicle that moves at least 40mph (that 60kmh for our European friends). To ensure safety, please do NOT shoot and drive. Ride a bus, a train, or ask somebody to drive you.

    There are several goals.
    One is simply try to get a sharp and properly exposed picture - which can be amazingly difficult. deal.gif

    Another is to find a slow shutter speed that would create a zoom effect when shooting straight ahead: the central (farthest) part of the picture should stay sharp, while the periphery should become blurred. deal.gif

    Naturally, shooting back is also a possibility! mwink.gif

    About same goes to the side shots. One is to get some nice sharp image. Another is to get a nice motion blur. And of course, there is a combo, when another object with the same speed is sharp, while the b/g is blurred.
    Once again, the safety is paramount, don't try this while driving!!! deal.gif

    And for those of you who live in the urban environment, a shot straigt up may create an interesting effect with the bases of the buildings blurred and the tops sharp enough.

    One image per entry please. Add some description (what was your goal, how you did it, etc.), and if possible, some basic exif info.

    As usual, fresh pictures only (meaning: taken AFTER you have become aware pf this assignment), moderate post-processing. No PS blurring!

    For the rest of the basic rules and index please check out this sticky.

    Let's get some speed shots! :D

    This was mad, crazy difficult.

    I couldn't shoot slow enough AND keep the aperture closed down enough, to get a good blur shot.

    On the plus side, I proved that the shake reduction on my NEW Pentax k100d is more than hype. Any pictures I tried to take with SR off ended up in the trash.ne_nau.gif

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    Shutter speed too fast. No blur at all. :cry

    Is the problem that I'm not going fast enough? Turn to the side:
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    Nope! Going fast enough! Speed limit on 390S on this stretch is 65 mph.

    Got a little blur here:
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    And here:


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    Well, thanks for letting me play.
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2007
    This was mad, crazy difficult.

    I couldn't shoot slow enough AND keep the aperture closed down enough, to get a good blur shot.

    On the plus side, I proved that the shake reduction on my NEW Pentax k100d is more than hype. Any pictures I tried to take with SR off ended up in the trash.ne_nau.gif

    Well, thanks for letting me play.

    Thank you for playing, nice entries! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2007
    My wife was driving
    166592669-M.jpg At 60/80 kms/hour - 1/13s f/2.8 ISO 800 16mm
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2007
    At 60/80 kms/hour - 1/13s f/2.8 ISO 800 16mm
    Thank you, nice entry! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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