Assignment #45: Wide and close

NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
edited July 29, 2007 in Assignments
Yes, this time we're gonna shoot wide and close.

Pick up your widest glass, choose a nice view with some important subject on the foregound, get reeeeeeal close to this subject and shoot.

Fresh pics only, moderate color correction, basic EXIF inline. The rest of the rules is here.
"May the f/stop be with you!"
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    What, no takers? headscratch.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • jenniferjennifer Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    I'll bite... I'm not sure I fully understand the assignment though. headscratch.gif

    This was taken with my 10-22 (16mm) as close as I could get (an inch or two). Is that what we're doing?

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    40D, 10-22, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 75-300 IS, 1.4x TC
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    jennifer wrote:
    I'll bite... I'm not sure I fully understand the assignment though. headscratch.gif

    This was taken with my 10-22 (16mm) as close as I could get (an inch or two). Is that what we're doing?
    Thank you!
    Kinda... Why not go 10mm and don't crop that tight? mwink.gif

    I meant more like this:

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    and

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    HTH
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • jenniferjennifer Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Thank you!
    Kinda... Why not go 10mm and don't crop that tight? mwink.gif

    I meant more like this:

    and

    HTH

    Oh sure, let's ALL go to the Grand Canyon! thumb.gif
    Actually, 10mm is 16mm on my rebel, so that's as wide as I can go. But after seeing your examples, I'll try to come up with something!
    40D, 10-22, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 75-300 IS, 1.4x TC
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    I have not such a glorious/gorgeous place to shoot but, to begin with, may be this here is not bed at all, or am I wronge ?
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    jennifer wrote:
    Oh sure, let's ALL go to the Grand Canyon! thumb.gif
    Actually, 10mm is 16mm on my rebel, so that's as wide as I can go. But after seeing your examples, I'll try to come up with something!
    Nah, it was 1) Bryce Canyon, UT and 2) Green River from the Dead Horse Point, Moab, UT
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    Antonio,
    Antonio Correia wrote:
    I have not such a glorious/gorgeous place to shoot but, to begin with, may be this here is not bed at all, or am I wronge ?
    Thank you!
    I only wish your foreground subject (keyboard, right?) was more in focus and more pronounced...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • jenniferjennifer Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    Nikolai, is this more what you're looking for? The subject is nothing special, I know.

    1/400s, f/5.6, ISO 400, 10mm (16mm crop)
    176712591-M.jpg
    40D, 10-22, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 75-300 IS, 1.4x TC
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    17 mm is as good as I can get. Too dark to close the aperture any further and didn't have my tripod.
    17mm, iso 1600, f20, 1/20
    176715211-L.jpg
    Dave

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    jennifer wrote:
    Nikolai, is this more what you're looking for? The subject is nothing special, I know.
    Yep, pretty much! thumb.gif
    Just add inline EXIF if you please (f/stop, speed, focal length, ISO)
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 24, 2007
    Dave,
    dlscott56 wrote:
    17 mm is as good as I can get. Too dark to close the aperture any further and didn't have my tripod.
    Nice entry, thanks! Just add inline EXIF please!
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • jenniferjennifer Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Yep, pretty much! thumb.gif
    Just add inline EXIF if you please (f/stop, speed, focal length, ISO)

    Thanks, Nikolai! I edited my post. I'll try to take something later with better camera settings now that I know what I'm doing :)
    40D, 10-22, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 75-300 IS, 1.4x TC
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Nice entry, thanks! Just add inline EXIF please!
    Done
    Dave

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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
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    Better photo will come.
    More sophisticated.

    350 D + lens 16 - 35 f/16 at 16 mm + ST-E2 + flash at our left.
    Focus on the lens set to 1,00 meter. AF off.

    Speed: doesn't matter. I stayed still.

    With these settings the camera focuses from 0,46 cms to infinity.
    The rose/vase is at about 50 cms.
    All measures from layer sensor.

    Small USM and cropped


    How about this ?
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • Jeff_MiloJeff_Milo Registered Users Posts: 327 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Not sure if this one qualifies due to the crop but here it is.
    24.0mm, lens EF-S17-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM, f5.6 1/80, ISO 100
    Jeff Milo
    MILOStudios


    www.milophotostudios.com
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Antonio,
    Antonio Correia wrote:

    Better photo will come.
    More sophisticated.
    ...
    How about this ?
    Great, awesome entry! thumb.gifclap.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Jeff,
    FlashPhotoBoy wrote:
    Not sure if this one qualifies due to the crop but here it is.
    24.0mm, lens EF-S17-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM, f5.6 1/80, ISO 100
    Very nice entry! Like the compo and the conversion, too! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • JermbubbaJermbubba Registered Users Posts: 148 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    kids dodgeball tournament.
    1/100 at f/5.0 18mm with on camera flash.
    was this the assignment? great idea! i had fun thanks
    www.chickchickchicky.blogspot.com
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    Jermbubba wrote:
    kids dodgeball tournament.
    1/100 at f/5.0 18mm with on camera flash.
    was this the assignment? great idea! i had fun thanks
    Great! Very nice entry! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • anwmn1anwmn1 Registered Users Posts: 3,469 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    How about a subtle foreground focus?

    Wasn't aware of the assignment till today but shot this yesterday

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 25, 2007
    anwmn1 wrote:
    How about a subtle foreground focus?
    Wasn't aware of the assignment till today but shot this yesterday
    Subtle indeed, but nice otherwise :-) thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • z_28z_28 Registered Users Posts: 956 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    IMG_9066-600b.jpg
    16mm(25mm), ISO400, f2.8, 1/1000s
    D300, D70s, 10.5/2.8, 17-55/2.8, 24-85/2.8-4, 50/1.4, 70-200VR, 70-300VR, 60/2.8, SB800, SB80DX, SD8A, MB-D10 ...
    XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
    DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    z_28 wrote:
    16mm(25mm), ISO400, f2.8, 1/1000s
    It's very nice, however, I'm afraid you've missed one point of this exercise which is to have a very deep DOF. Apparently you had plenty of light to do so :-)
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • z_28z_28 Registered Users Posts: 956 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    Shoot !!!
    I was so sure that clue is to keep DOF as shallow as possibe eek7.gifscratch:cry
    Will reprocess immediately !
    D300, D70s, 10.5/2.8, 17-55/2.8, 24-85/2.8-4, 50/1.4, 70-200VR, 70-300VR, 60/2.8, SB800, SB80DX, SD8A, MB-D10 ...
    XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
    DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    z_28 wrote:
    Shoot !!!
    I was so sure that clue is to keep DOF as shallow as possibe eek7.gifscratch:cry
    Will reprocess immediately !
    No worries, my bad, I didn't emphasize it enough...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • z_28z_28 Registered Users Posts: 956 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    More "political correct" frame,
    but anyway I like first one much more rolleyes1.gif
    IMG_9064-600.jpg
    16mm(25mm), ISO400, f22, 1/30s
    D300, D70s, 10.5/2.8, 17-55/2.8, 24-85/2.8-4, 50/1.4, 70-200VR, 70-300VR, 60/2.8, SB800, SB80DX, SD8A, MB-D10 ...
    XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
    DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    z_28 wrote:
    More "political correct" frame,
    but anyway I like first one much more rolleyes1.gif
    16mm(25mm), ISO400, f22, 1/30s

    Actually, I like second one better. I didn't see the car in the first one. And I now see the red of the knife blending into the reddish stripes of the walkway, which leads into the car, which kinda has similar shape and size of the knife.. It would be real cool to have them visually linked stronger...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    How I did it
    • In this table I have choosen my camera, my lens and my distance (I use meters of course).
    • Consulting the table, I could see that
      • if I set a distance of 1 meter on the lens and
      • if I use f/22 that would return me a depth of field between 0.38m and infinity.
    • Then, I measured the distance with an instrument like a tape or whatever, between the sensor plain/layer/surface and the target (which was 1 meter away).
    • I targeted the central point of the camera to that point and focused with AF (Auto Focus) On.
    • I switched off the AF.
    • I set the camera on Aperture priority and I set the aperture at f/22
    • I composed the scene
    • I placed an object at 40 cms (40 cms = 0.40 meter)
    • I now have the object and the infinity in focus.
    • I didn’t care about the speed.
      • If I had too much light I would have used the NDF and/or the CPF.
      • I used flash because now I am a maniac of this kind of light, which is gorgeous as you can see here in my photos and here.
    I didn't care about diffraction either !
    Lots of infos about this subject here.

    0.38 centimeters = 0.013 feet/0,150 inches - 0.40 centimeters = 0.0131 feet/0,157 inches - 1 meter = 3.281 feet/39.370 inches

    How about this ?
    Tell me ! [/SIZE] mwink.gif
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • z_28z_28 Registered Users Posts: 956 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Actually, I like second one better. I didn't see the car in the first one. And I now see the red of the knife blending into the reddish stripes of the walkway, which leads into the car, which kinda has similar shape and size of the knife.. It would be real cool to have them visually linked stronger...

    wings.gif
    IMG_9064-600b.jpg
    D300, D70s, 10.5/2.8, 17-55/2.8, 24-85/2.8-4, 50/1.4, 70-200VR, 70-300VR, 60/2.8, SB800, SB80DX, SD8A, MB-D10 ...
    XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
    DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
  • z_28z_28 Registered Users Posts: 956 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2007
    Antonio Correia wrote:
    How I did it
    • In this table I have choosen my camera, my lens and my distance (I use meters of course).
    • Consulting the table, I could see that
      • if I set a distance of 1 meter in the lens and
      • if I use f/22 that would give me a depth of field between 0.38 and infinity.
    • Then, I measured the distance with na instrument like a tape or whatever, between the sensor plain/layer/surface to a target which was 1 meter away.
    • I target the central point of the focusing screen to that point and focus.
    • I switch off the auto focus from the lens.
    • I set the aperture at f/22
    • I compose the scene
    • I placed an object at 40 cms (40 cms = 0.40 meter)
    • I now have the object and infinity in focus.
    • I didn’t care with the speed, or I do and have to think the hole thing over again.
      • If I had too much light I would have used the NDF and/or the CPF.
      • I used flash because now I am a maniac of this kind of light, which is gorgeous as you can see here in my photos and here.
    Next photo I want to do – if I got the time because my sun asked to go and shoot kitesurf again tomorrow evenning – will be envolving 3 planes/surfaces/areas:
    • Near the lights of the car - 0.83 cms
    • Medium distance the car door or so - 1.26 m
    • Far distance, like the street.
    At f/2.8 the 16mm with the lens focused to 1 meter will give me sharpness from 0.83 to 1.26 – the street at the far end will be out of focus and so will be the main lights.

    How about this ?
    Tell me !     mwink.gif

    Great explanation Antonio,
    but actually I can't see any picture or pictures ne_nau.gif
    D300, D70s, 10.5/2.8, 17-55/2.8, 24-85/2.8-4, 50/1.4, 70-200VR, 70-300VR, 60/2.8, SB800, SB80DX, SD8A, MB-D10 ...
    XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
    DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
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