The older grip BG-E2 will work with the 40D. It is unclear if the new grip BG-E2N will work with the older cams.
One note I saw implied that the only real difference between BG-E2 and BG-E2N was improved weatherstripping/seals. ...Since I don't take my 20D out in really wet weather, I'd just keep my current BG-E2 and transfer it to a 40D, if I ended up snagging one.
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The older grip BG-E2 will work with the 40D. It is unclear if the new grip BG-E2N will work with the older cams.
David, you may have missed this quote from the Canadian Press Release:
Accessories "New system accessories for the EOS 40D SLR include the redesigned high-capacity Battery GripBG-E2N, which facilitates high-volume shooting and easier vertical shooting. Compatible with up to two BP-511A battery packs or a set of six AA-size batteries, the battery grip approximately doubles the number of shots that can be taken, compared with the battery power of the EOS 40D SLR alone. The BG-E2N grip features new sealing material around the battery compartment to better resist water and dust.
The new model replaces the original BG-E2 grip and is compatible with the EOS 20D, 30D and 40D models."
The new model replaces the original BG-E2 grip and is compatible with the EOS 20D, 30D and 40D models
Note that "replace" doesn't necessarily mean that the BG-E2 grip won't work with the 40D, just that Canon has stopped making the BG-E2 and the BG-E2N has replaced the BG-E2 in Canon's product line.
From the description you quoted, I'm guessing that the new grip replaces the BG-E2 in the same sense that the 1.4x TC II "replaced" the 1.4x TC, or the 50mm f/1.8 II lens "replaced" the 50mm f/1.8 lens. The only difference noted was the improved sealant around the battery compartment, so it doesn't sound like any "functional" changes.
"Battery grip (optional): Battery grip BG-E2N or BG-E2"
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Note that "replace" doesn't necessarily mean that the BG-E2 grip won't work with the 40D, just that Canon has stopped making the BG-E2 and the BG-E2N has replaced the BG-E2 in Canon's product line.
From the description you quoted, I'm guessing that the new grip replaces the BG-E2 in the same sense that the 1.4x TC II "replaced" the 1.4x TC, or the 50mm f/1.8 II lens "replaced" the 50mm f/1.8 lens. The only difference noted was the improved sealant around the battery compartment, so it doesn't sound like any "functional" changes.
"Battery grip (optional): Battery grip BG-E2N or BG-E2"
From looking at the back of the 1DMkIII with the the live view button that is label AF - On, it has 2 locations on one on the body and one on the grip area for vertical shooting, and the 40D having the same button on the body, I would think they will put the same on the new grip in a similar location. So an older grip may work just without the ability to to live view when shooting vertical because of the lack of properly function button.
So the the new grip will be backward compatable (based on the press release quoted by salazar), and it seems as if the older grip will be forward compatable. On the older grips there is a only 2 buttons on the rear and I believe the new grip will have 3 (similar to 1DMkIII).
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Just received an email from Calumet for pre-orders on the 40D. They are estimating the price to be around $1,299.00. You can also pre-order the 1DsMkiii at 7,999.00. At that price I went for two on the pre-order:bigbs
Thinking of taking the plunge as I have a 20D. Didn't upgrade to the 30D as I felt I didn't need to but now I think it is time.
From looking at the back of the 1DMkIII with the the live view button that is label AF - On, it has 2 locations on one on the body and one on the grip area for vertical shooting, and the 40D having the same button on the body, I would think they will put the same on the new grip in a similar location. So an older grip may work just without the ability to to live view when shooting vertical because of the lack of properly function button.
So the the new grip will be backward compatable (based on the press release quoted by salazar), and it seems as if the older grip will be forward compatable. On the older grips there is a only 2 buttons on the rear and I believe the new grip will have 3 (similar to 1DMkIII).
Since Live View is pretty much only useful when tripod-mounted, an AF-On button on the BG-E2N doesn't sound too critical. If a BG-E2 was used, I'd think it would be trivially easy to punch the 40D's AF-On button. So it still sounds like using an existing BG-E2 on a 40D should work fine.
Of course, if I got a 40D and didn't already have a BG-E2 battery grip, then I'd definitely go for the BG-E2N.
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From looking at the back of the 1DMkIII with the the live view button that is label AF - On, it has 2 locations on one on the body and one on the grip area for vertical shooting, and the 40D having the same button on the body, I would think they will put the same on the new grip in a similar location. So an older grip may work just without the ability to to live view when shooting vertical because of the lack of properly function button.
So the the new grip will be backward compatable (based on the press release quoted by salazar), and it seems as if the older grip will be forward compatable. On the older grips there is a only 2 buttons on the rear and I believe the new grip will have 3 (similar to 1DMkIII).
Well, believe it or not, Canon seems to have seen fit to NOT put an AF-On button on the new grip.
So in order to NOT have to use the shutter release when using the grip for shootin verticle, you have to:
Custom set the *button as the AF-On button (as before) and reconfigure the AF-On button to the same function as the * button used to have.
Phew!!!
Seems an extra $500 for the D300 is not looking too bad. Oh, by the way the new MB- whatever grip for the D300 HAS a dedicated AF-On button as well as the convience (ala Pentax K10 VG) of not having to remove the camera battery door or battery when installing it.
Personally I think Canon really dropped the ball on this one. They kind of cheaped out, through out some scraps for the loyal Canon users to hold them over for another 18 months.
40D's RAW files
Anyone knows if they are compatible with ACR? Or it will be the same ugly problem that we had with 30D's CR2 files, when for at least for a few months we had to use some hacks (and since the resolution changed in this case, I'm not sure if even this helps)?
I understand that it's possible to use the included DPP for a while, but I would so hate to lose my Bridge-based rawflow, even if so briefly...
Well, believe it or not, Canon seems to have seen fit to NOT put an AF-On button on the new grip.
So in order to NOT have to use the shutter release when using the grip for shootin verticle, you have to:
Custom set the *button as the AF-On button (as before) and reconfigure the AF-On button to the same function as the * button used to have.
Phew!!!
Seems an extra $500 for the D300 is not looking too bad. Oh, by the way the new MB- whatever grip for the D300 HAS a dedicated AF-On button as well as the convience (ala Pentax K10 VG) of not having to remove the camera battery door or battery when installing it.
Personally I think Canon really dropped the ball on this one. They kind of cheaped out, through out some scraps for the loyal Canon users to hold them over for another 18 months.
Gene
Ok, so get the older BG-E2 grip. If the new one is sompatible with the 20D/30D, the old one therefore must be compatible with the 40D. And, IMHO the 5 seconds it took to remove the battery door & stow it in the grip was not all that big of an inconvenience.
Anyone knows if they are compatible with ACR? Or it will be the same ugly problem that we had with 30D's CR2 files, when for at least for a few months we had to use some hacks (and since the resolution changed in this case, I'm not sure if even this helps)?
I understand that it's possible to use the included DPP for a while, but I would so hate to lose my Bridge-based rawflow, even if so briefly...
I believe I recall reading of someone having trouble opening the files in CS3, so, unfortunate as it may be, that will probably be the case...
On another note, the local camera store has a 40d with my name on it!
Ok I read up and I get it now. I see the convenience of them putting it on the grip if you use a grip for vertical shooting and don't understand why they wouldn't place it on the "new" grip.
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Ok I read up and I get it now. I see the convenience of them putting it on the grip if you use a grip for vertical shooting and don't understand why they wouldn't place it on the "new" grip.
Yeah, that's a flat-out stupid omission. Turns out that Canon did put an AF-On button on the WiFi grip, but not on the BG-E2n grip. "Duh", someone on the "BG" team was asleep at the switch.
That gives me zero reason to change from my BG-E2 to a BG-E2n. If anything, I might consider dropping the BG grip and switching to a Wifi grip, someday when I actually have a need for the Wifi connectivity (which might be a long time ).
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If you have a 1'x1'x1' box, it can fit in a 2'x2'x2' box, but not the other way around.
True. I could swear I saw in one of the Canon spec sites a mention that the BG-E2 will work on the 40D. I would expect that to work more than the other way 'round. ...just checked Canon USA's site & they specifially list the BG-E2 under the 40D accessories FWTW.
True. I could swear I saw in one of the Canon spec sites a mention that the BG-E2 will work on the 40D. ...just checked Canon USA's site & they specifially list the BG-E2 under the 40D accessories FWTW.
Also see this article, in which the author (in Hong Kong) already has a 40D and claims that he was using a BG-E2 on it while waiting for a new BG-E2n to arrive. (why he bothered to order the new one, who knows? ... unless he thought that it would have an AF-On button )
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Interestingly, there's not much difference in high-ISO noise ... although one could argue that it's a slight improvement that Canon managed to get similarly low noise levels out of the 10.1 millions smaller 40D pixels as it previously had from 8.2 million larger 20D pixels.
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I'm sure that one was unintentional ... but it reminds me of Bob Atkins, who does it intentionally ... I like to read his "Canon News and Rumors" page because it often provides some of the fastest-breaking Canon news (and rumors) around. Unfortunately, Bob has a habit of always refering to company names (notably, Canon) in the plural, for example, "Canon are..." and "Canon do not...".
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That drives me bananas, because it really distracts from/makes it harder to understand his otherwise useful messages. It's much like visiting a scenic garden spot, and seeing litter strewn about it :cry. Although it has been pointed out to him, but he chooses to continue writing that way.
As a teacher hammered into me along the way, a company is a singular entity (literally, figuratively, and even legally) -- so one must write "Canon is..." and "Canon does not..." (although one could correctly say "Canon employees are..." or "Canon policies do not...") . This is no different than referring to a box of crayons; we say "the box is...", not "the box are...".
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Unfortunately, Bob has a habit of always refering to company names (notably, Canon) in the plural...As a teacher hammered into me along the way, a company is a singular entity...
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You forgot to add "...in the American variant of English."
You learn this when listening to the BBC, and it's always "U2 have begun their tour" and "Manchester United have just won their third game in a row," and so on.
You forgot to add "...in the American variant of English."
You learn this when listening to the BBC, and it's always "U2 have begun their tour" and "Manchester United have just won their third game in a row," and so on.
Oh, dear -- please tell me you're kidding ...?
And here I thought that Brits in general were the experts on the English language and we Americans have only corrupted it **. This really bursts that bubble! :cry
** Well, we did justifiably fix a couple of spellings, e.g. "color" ... but then, we messed up others. And boy, we really misspelled "aluminium".
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And here I thought that Brits in general were the experts on the English language and we Americans have only corrupted it **. This really bursts that bubble! :cry
** Well, we did justifiably fix a couple of spellings, e.g. "color" ... but then, we messed up others. And boy, we really misspelled "aluminium".
Unfortunately, the Brits do that. If you read Phil's reviews on dpreview.com, he consistently uses that variant. It's like finger nails down a chalkboard to me, but he insists on doing it, even though it's wrong.
Also wrong is the new fad of saying "...graduated high school (or college)..." instead of "...graduated FROM high school (or college)..." which is the correct phraseology.
The other irritating thing to hear is "...grow your business..." UGH! To wit:
From the American Heritage Book of English Usage:
“Eventually you have to satisfy the customer and grow the business,” the new chairman of Eastman Kodak said in 1993 at a news conference announcing his appointment. He was using the verb grow in a relatively new way—with an object that is not living. Grow has been used since medieval times as an intransitive verb meaning “to increase in size, quantity or degree,” as in Our business has been growing steadily for three years. It has been used with an object since the 18th century, meaning “to produce or cultivate,” as in We grow beans and corn in our garden. But the transitive use applied to business and nonliving things is quite new. It came into full bloom during the 1992 Presidential election, when nearly all the candidates were concerned with “growing the economy.” Businessleaders and politicians may be fond of this usage, but should the rest of us? The Usage Panel thinks not. Eighty percent reject the phrase grow our business."
Now that we're well off topic (no, wait, I'd love to upgrade to a 40D, except my XT is still too new!), while some grammar oddities are cultural, some of these are intentional, especially if they start out in campaigns. Ad professionals know that if you skew the grammar of your slogan juuuust a little ("growing the economy," "Think Different"), you will cause it to stick in people's minds much more effectively.
The one I don't like is to "work" something. You don't "work the issue," you "work on the issue."
Now that we're well off topic (no, wait, I'd love to upgrade to a 40D, except my XT is still too new!), while some grammar oddities are cultural, some of these are intentional, especially if they start out in campaigns. Ad professionals know that if you skew the grammar of your slogan juuuust a little ("growing the economy," "Think Different"), you will cause it to stick in people's minds much more effectively.
The one I don't like is to "work" something. You don't "work the issue," you "work on the issue."
(putting hand over username to hide it, whilst...I mean, while saving up for a 40D and bigger memory cards)
Good point, colourbox, we are WAY off topic... but it's interesting nonetheless to work this problem so we can graduate college and grow our business. <<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/Laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" >>
Unfortunately, the Brits do that. If you read Phil's reviews on dpreview.com, he consistently uses that variant. It's like finger nails down a chalkboard to me, but he insists on doing it, even though it's wrong.
Thanks for describing it well, Phil -- "fingernails on a blackboard", that's it!
It's amazing to me that that's acceptable usage in the U.K. -- but then, our own American broadcast newspeople use lots of technically questionable grammar, too, so I'm hesitant to criticize U.K. usage. I will only go so far as to say that it's definitely incorrect usage in the U.S. and that for me, personally, it's atrocious to read. (talk about going down a total "rathole" in a photo forum!)
Also wrong is the new fad of saying "...graduated high school (or college)..." instead of "...graduated FROM high school (or college)..."
You're kidding -- people actually say that? :nah When they say "I graduated high school", they surely are referring to having painted tick marks on the outside of their high school building, indicating the volume contained by the building up that height (a la a graduated cylinder). There's just no way they're trying to use that phraseology to mean that they graduated from high school!
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Yeah, I noticed that... no problem! Just had to throw that in . (I agree with your comment about "work the issue", too ... yikes)
To actually post something ON-topic (gasp!): I expect I'll probably trade up to a 40D in a few months, perhaps 'round the turn of the year. By then I will have saved up a few sheckels ... and maybe even the initial demand will have been sated and street price could dip another $50 or so.
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David, you may have missed this quote from the Canadian Press Release:
Accessories
"New system accessories for the EOS 40D SLR include the redesigned high-capacity Battery Grip BG-E2N, which facilitates high-volume shooting and easier vertical shooting. Compatible with up to two BP-511A battery packs or a set of six AA-size batteries, the battery grip approximately doubles the number of shots that can be taken, compared with the battery power of the EOS 40D SLR alone. The BG-E2N grip features new sealing material around the battery compartment to better resist water and dust.
The new model replaces the original BG-E2 grip and is compatible with the EOS 20D, 30D and 40D models."
http://canon.ca/english/index-pressr...1&id=615&arc=0
From the description you quoted, I'm guessing that the new grip replaces the BG-E2 in the same sense that the 1.4x TC II "replaced" the 1.4x TC, or the 50mm f/1.8 II lens "replaced" the 50mm f/1.8 lens. The only difference noted was the improved sealant around the battery compartment, so it doesn't sound like any "functional" changes.
This seems to be confirmed by 40D info at Amazon:
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From looking at the back of the 1DMkIII with the the live view button that is label AF - On, it has 2 locations on one on the body and one on the grip area for vertical shooting, and the 40D having the same button on the body, I would think they will put the same on the new grip in a similar location. So an older grip may work just without the ability to to live view when shooting vertical because of the lack of properly function button.
So the the new grip will be backward compatable (based on the press release quoted by salazar), and it seems as if the older grip will be forward compatable. On the older grips there is a only 2 buttons on the rear and I believe the new grip will have 3 (similar to 1DMkIII).
Thinking of taking the plunge as I have a 20D. Didn't upgrade to the 30D as I felt I didn't need to but now I think it is time.
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Of course, if I got a 40D and didn't already have a BG-E2 battery grip, then I'd definitely go for the BG-E2N.
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Anybody heard if the dang Direct Print button can now be reconfigurable via CFn?
Well, believe it or not, Canon seems to have seen fit to NOT put an AF-On button on the new grip.
So in order to NOT have to use the shutter release when using the grip for shootin verticle, you have to:
Custom set the *button as the AF-On button (as before) and reconfigure the AF-On button to the same function as the * button used to have.
Phew!!!
Seems an extra $500 for the D300 is not looking too bad. Oh, by the way the new MB- whatever grip for the D300 HAS a dedicated AF-On button as well as the convience (ala Pentax K10 VG) of not having to remove the camera battery door or battery when installing it.
Personally I think Canon really dropped the ball on this one. They kind of cheaped out, through out some scraps for the loyal Canon users to hold them over for another 18 months.
Gene
Anyone knows if they are compatible with ACR? Or it will be the same ugly problem that we had with 30D's CR2 files, when for at least for a few months we had to use some hacks (and since the resolution changed in this case, I'm not sure if even this helps)?
I understand that it's possible to use the included DPP for a while, but I would so hate to lose my Bridge-based rawflow, even if so briefly...
Lost by this
To shoot vertical without using the shutter release ... what?
dak.smugmug.com
Ok, so get the older BG-E2 grip. If the new one is sompatible with the 20D/30D, the old one therefore must be compatible with the 40D. And, IMHO the 5 seconds it took to remove the battery door & stow it in the grip was not all that big of an inconvenience.
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If you have a 1'x1'x1' box, it can fit in a 2'x2'x2' box, but not the other way around.
www.ivarborst.nl & smugmug
I believe I recall reading of someone having trouble opening the files in CS3, so, unfortunate as it may be, that will probably be the case...
On another note, the local camera store has a 40d with my name on it!
dak.smugmug.com
That gives me zero reason to change from my BG-E2 to a BG-E2n. If anything, I might consider dropping the BG grip and switching to a Wifi grip, someday when I actually have a need for the Wifi connectivity (which might be a long time
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True. I could swear I saw in one of the Canon spec sites a mention that the BG-E2 will work on the 40D.
http://www.chrislaudermilkphoto.com/
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FYI -- here's a link to a somewhat long review of the 40D, comparing it with the 20D. Lots of improved features.
Interestingly, there's not much difference in high-ISO noise ... although one could argue that it's a slight improvement that Canon managed to get similarly low noise levels out of the 10.1 millions smaller 40D pixels as it previously had from 8.2 million larger 20D pixels.
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This is a great side by side review, thank you for posting it here!
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That drives me bananas, because it really distracts from/makes it harder to understand his otherwise useful messages. It's much like visiting a scenic garden spot, and seeing litter strewn about it :cry. Although it has been pointed out to him, but he chooses to continue writing that way.
As a teacher hammered into me along the way, a company is a singular entity (literally, figuratively, and even legally) -- so one must write "Canon is..." and "Canon does not..." (although one could correctly say "Canon employees are..." or "Canon policies do not...") . This is no different than referring to a box of crayons; we say "the box is...", not "the box are...".
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You forgot to add "...in the American variant of English."
You learn this when listening to the BBC, and it's always "U2 have begun their tour" and "Manchester United have just won their third game in a row," and so on.
And here I thought that Brits in general were the experts on the English language and we Americans have only corrupted it
we messed up others. And boy, we really misspelled "aluminium".
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Unfortunately, the Brits do that. If you read Phil's reviews on dpreview.com, he consistently uses that variant. It's like finger nails down a chalkboard to me, but he insists on doing it, even though it's wrong.
Also wrong is the new fad of saying "...graduated high school (or college)..." instead of "...graduated FROM high school (or college)..." which is the correct phraseology.
The other irritating thing to hear is "...grow your business..." UGH! To wit:
From the American Heritage Book of English Usage:
“Eventually you have to satisfy the customer and grow the business,” the new chairman of Eastman Kodak said in 1993 at a news conference announcing his appointment. He was using the verb grow in a relatively new way—with an object that is not living. Grow has been used since medieval times as an intransitive verb meaning “to increase in size, quantity or degree,” as in Our business has been growing steadily for three years. It has been used with an object since the 18th century, meaning “to produce or cultivate,” as in We grow beans and corn in our garden. But the transitive use applied to business and nonliving things is quite new. It came into full bloom during the 1992 Presidential election, when nearly all the candidates were concerned with “growing the economy.” Businessleaders and politicians may be fond of this usage, but should the rest of us? The Usage Panel thinks not. Eighty percent reject the phrase grow our business."
Phil
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The one I don't like is to "work" something. You don't "work the issue," you "work on the issue."
(putting hand over username to hide it, whilst...I mean, while saving up for a 40D and bigger memory cards)
Good point, colourbox, we are WAY off topic... but it's interesting nonetheless to work this problem so we can graduate college and grow our business. <<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/Laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" >>
Phil
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It's amazing to me that that's acceptable usage in the U.K. -- but then, our own American broadcast newspeople use lots of technically questionable grammar, too, so I'm hesitant to criticize U.K. usage. I will only go so far as to say that it's definitely incorrect usage in the U.S. and that for me, personally, it's atrocious to read. (talk about going down a total "rathole" in a photo forum!)
You're kidding -- people actually say that? :nah When they say "I graduated high school", they surely are referring to having painted tick marks on the outside of their high school building, indicating the volume contained by the building up that height (a la a graduated cylinder). There's just no way they're trying to use that phraseology to mean that they graduated from high school!
Supported by: Benro C-298 Flexpod tripod, MC96 monopod, Induro PHQ1 head
Also play with: studio strobes, umbrellas, softboxes, ...and a partridge in a pear tree...
To actually post something ON-topic (gasp!): I expect I'll probably trade up to a 40D in a few months, perhaps 'round the turn of the year. By then I will have saved up a few sheckels ... and maybe even the initial demand will have been sated and street price could dip another $50 or so.
Supported by: Benro C-298 Flexpod tripod, MC96 monopod, Induro PHQ1 head
Also play with: studio strobes, umbrellas, softboxes, ...and a partridge in a pear tree...