Remote Shutter Release

Slinky0390Slinky0390 Registered Users Posts: 236 Major grins
edited June 12, 2008 in Accessories
Now I know that a wired one is inexpensive and probably a valuable tool to have in my camera bag, especially since I got this neat-o manfrotto tripod for christmas that I want to use for some night time shots. Does anyone have any experience with the Canon RS-80N3, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164276-REG/Canon_2476A001_Remote_Switch_RS_80N3.html? I just don't want to buy the thing for $50 and have it break and need to buy another one where I could've just used the money to buy a better one in the first place.
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  • James SJames S Registered Users Posts: 439 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2008
    No experience with that one but buy the cheap one on Ebay and you will have a wireless one as well:


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    I reviewed it here: http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=518184&page=1#3212866
  • Slinky0390Slinky0390 Registered Users Posts: 236 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2008
    hmm, the wireless one in the picture has the old 1/8" jack that wont work with my 30d, does ebay sell a cheap adapter.. lol
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  • James SJames S Registered Users Posts: 439 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2008
    Slinky0390 wrote:
    hmm, the wireless one in the picture has the old 1/8" jack that wont work with my 30d, does ebay sell a cheap adapter.. lol

    The wireless part plugs into the wired trigger. I have a 30D and this works great on it
  • moose135moose135 Registered Users Posts: 1,420 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    I have a wireless unit that looks like the set pictured which plugs directly into my 30D. Found it on E-Bay about a year ago for about $30. Works just fine.
  • BendrBendr Registered Users Posts: 665 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    I don't know what you plan on doing with it, but I own one of these...

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164271-REG/Canon_2477A002_Timer_Remote_Controller_TC_80N3.html

    a review here:

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/tc-80n3.shtml

    it's a fair bit more expensive, but a really cool tool for when you want to those long exposures and don't want to stay up all night with your camera
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    They are $25 on ebay & work perfectly up to 300 feet & through brick walls. Why would you spend more.. ?

    There are quite a few of us with them on d/grin
  • tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    Non wireless ones cost less than 10$ on sites like dealextreme(search for my review).
    As for these wireless ones, I am scared of them
    The reason is that they contain a battery.
    this means that if the circut shorts or something, you will get voltage on the shutter pins(where the release goes in).
    With passive wired release there is no way of damaging the internal electronics, however with these ones that becomes a real possiblity.
    Please note that in normal operation they will do fine, its when they go broke(short etc.,) and drive full voltage on the pins which go into the remote shutter socket.
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    tsk1979 wrote:
    Non wireless ones cost less than 10$ on sites like dealextreme(search for my review).
    As for these wireless ones, I am scared of them
    The reason is that they contain a battery.
    this means that if the circut shorts or something, you will get voltage on the shutter pins(where the release goes in).
    With passive wired release there is no way of damaging the internal electronics, however with these ones that becomes a real possiblity.
    Please note that in normal operation they will do fine, its when they go broke(short etc.,) and drive full voltage on the pins which go into the remote shutter socket.
    That is the strangest thing i have read on here for quite a while. The wireless $20 or $30 jobs are being used everywhere...i see them around here even. I think you are looking way way too deeply into it. I mean..honestly mate you are in far greater danger of dropping your camera than a voltage spike from a cr3042 or what ever it is.
  • tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    gus wrote:
    That is the strangest thing i have read on here for quite a while. The wireless $20 or $30 jobs are being used everywhere...i see them around here even. I think you are looking way way too deeply into it. I mean..honestly mate you are in far greater danger of dropping your camera than a voltage spike from a cr3042 or what ever it is.
    I recently read on dpreview about the 40D where apparently the wireless third party release fried something.
    I know its being extremely paranoid, but as Andy grove once said "Only the Paranoid Survive" :D
  • SloYerRollSloYerRoll Registered Users Posts: 2,788 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    tsk1979 wrote:
    "Only the Paranoid Survive" :D
    If you call being scared of everything surviving:D

    I can see a bit about your paranoia. But there's no real need for concern here. There's just not enough amperage to do damage. I'm sure the review/post you read was some prototype or Frankenstein.
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    Hi Slinky0390!

    I have the Canon TC-80N3 Timer Remote Controller - lovely! So many options for many different kinds of jobs. I like to have my hands off the camera & tripod when I'm doing shots I want to be sure are not going to be affected by vibration-movement that way.

    Maybe some of the wireless kind of remote releases are also capable of performing other sync tasks, I don't know, but unless you want to be far from the camera I'm not convinced they are such an advantage. I too like the possibly greater reliability and electronics protection of the manual remote release.
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    I've had the RS-80N3 for a couple of years now and have had zero problems with it. It simply works the first time, every time. There were more than a couple of people at the Glacier Shootout who had them as well.

    Another solution is to get a couple of these, but why when the solution offered up by Gus is just as effective (unless you want to trigger the camera from 1/4 mile away) and costs so much less?
  • PhotoskipperPhotoskipper Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    I am not sure
    I have both RS60-E3 for Rebel and RS80-N for 5D. It works differently.

    According to the manual, the 60-E3 is just a 2.5 mm phone jack which works for Rebels and EOS series.

    The 80 N is a small round 3 very small female connectors, which serve all 1D, 5D, 30D and 40D.

    Referring to the photo of the 3rd party remote control unit, it comes with the phone jack only. I am not sure whether it can work for the 30D or the 5D.

    I will be happy to learn more about it so that I can get one cheaper remote control for my 5D.

    Please kindly advise.bowdown.gif
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    but why when the solution offered up by Gus is just as effective (unless you want to trigger the camera from 1/4 mile away) and costs so much less?

    Honestly...$30 delivered & it really does just work instantly over hundreds of feet...never fails.
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    gus wrote:
    Honestly...$30 delivered & it really does just work instantly over hundreds of feet...never fails.
    I didn't realize the range was that much. Thanks for the info :D
  • tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008

    I will be happy to learn more about it so that I can get one cheaper remote control for my 5D.

    Please kindly advise.bowdown.gif
    http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=79667&highlight=remote
  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    You also cannot trigger a self portrait (or a group shot with yourself in it) with a wired remote. They're all too short. And the self timer doesn't do the trick for a self portrait because you can't autofocus on yourself if you ain't there yet:D .
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  • CuongCuong Registered Users Posts: 1,508 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    gus wrote:
    Honestly...$30 delivered & it really does just work instantly over hundreds of feet...never fails.
    I bought a couple of these Phottix wireless remotes recently. It's a wonderful accessory when it works. One of the receivers I got didn't function properly, seems like a quality control problem. They sent me a replacement 2 weeks ago and I'm still waiting.

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  • JimMJimM Registered Users Posts: 1,389 Major grins
    edited February 11, 2008
    gus wrote:
    Honestly...$30 delivered & it really does just work instantly over hundreds of feet...never fails.

    Okay, I believe you... just ordered one! Hope the boat drives fast!
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  • blalorblalor Registered Users Posts: 94 Big grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    Just a few random thoughts on Canon RS-80N3 remotes and their clones. I bought a clone via eBay from Nova Photography, after reading a review somewhere that compared a whole swath of 'em. I wouldn't recommend the remote only because the shipping was sloooooow from the seller, and I only saved about $10 all told. You can buy the Canon for about $45 from Amazon, I think and have it faster than the Nova guy will get it to you. Otherwise, the quality is fine. I spliced in a 1/8" stereo jack and plug so that I can extend it and also use the N3 plug with my PocketWizards.

    If you're contemplating buying the timer remote and also want a set of PocketWizards, go with the PW MultiMax. It's about $80 more than the standard PW, but cheaper than the $120 (!) Canon intervalometer and can do the same thing.

    I recently got an itch to start playing around with electronics and microcontrollers and I'm planning on building my own intervalometer. I should be able to whack one together for less than $60 with a display, and learn something in the process. :)
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    Icebear wrote:
    You also cannot trigger a self portrait (or a group shot with yourself in it) with a wired remote. They're all too short. And the self timer doesn't do the trick for a self portrait because you can't autofocus on yourself if you ain't there yet:D .

    Too true!! :D:D:D

    BTW Icebear did you ever get that wireless remote for your D200 from HK, and how is it?
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    blalor wrote:
    If you're contemplating buying the timer remote and also want a set of PocketWizards, go with the PW MultiMax. It's about $80 more than the standard PW, but cheaper than the $120 (!) Canon intervalometer and can do the same thing.

    Very interesting! Do you mean the timer remote and the PW MultiMax can be used together? Could you point me to more info, thanks!
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  • blalorblalor Registered Users Posts: 94 Big grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    NeilL wrote:
    Very interesting! Do you mean the timer remote and the PW MultiMax can be used together? Could you point me to more info, thanks!
    One of the features of the MultiMax is that is has a built-in intervalometer. You need a cable to connect the MM to the remote port on your camera. The port on the MM is a 1/8" mono, so you'll need to adapt your existing wired remote so that the ground and shutter release wires are connected to the jack. Let me know if you need more info on how to do that, or cough up a Ben Franklin to buy their adapter. rolleyes1.gif
  • JohnnyJrJohnnyJr Registered Users Posts: 174 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    I have both the RS-80N3 and TC-80N3. They flawlessly do exactly what they are supposed to do. I use these when shooting live theatrical performances with a tripod and tele lenses and need to look through the viewfinder and maintain exposure controls. Very effective way to trip the shutter and also keep camera vibrations to a minimum. The RS-80N3 in particular is definitely worth having I think.
    Slinky0390 wrote:
    Now I know that a wired one is inexpensive and probably a valuable tool to have in my camera bag, especially since I got this neat-o manfrotto tripod for christmas that I want to use for some night time shots. Does anyone have any experience with the Canon RS-80N3, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164276-REG/Canon_2476A001_Remote_Switch_RS_80N3.html? I just don't want to buy the thing for $50 and have it break and need to buy another one where I could've just used the money to buy a better one in the first place.
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    blalor wrote:
    One of the features of the MultiMax is that is has a built-in intervalometer. You need a cable to connect the MM to the remote port on your camera. The port on the MM is a 1/8" mono, so you'll need to adapt your existing wired remote so that the ground and shutter release wires are connected to the jack. Let me know if you need more info on how to do that, or cough up a Ben Franklin to buy their adapter. rolleyes1.gif

    I don't quite speak your language, but I can tell it's a great story! rolleyes1.gif

    If it's not too much trouble, could you point me where I can read about the kinds of things that can be done with synced timer remote & MM?

    Thanks!
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  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    blalor wrote:
    One of the features of the MultiMax is that is has a built-in intervalometer. You need a cable to connect the MM to the remote port on your camera. The port on the MM is a 1/8" mono, so you'll need to adapt your existing wired remote so that the ground and shutter release wires are connected to the jack. Let me know if you need more info on how to do that, or cough up a Ben Franklin to buy their adapter. rolleyes1.gif

    The camera, MM & timer remote are interconnected in that order, right?
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  • blalorblalor Registered Users Posts: 94 Big grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    blalor wrote:
    One of the features of the MultiMax is that is has a built-in intervalometer.
    Intervalometer == timer. You need a cable to connect the MultiMax to your camera.
    For time-lapse imaging, MultiMAX’s trigger time control software includes an Intervalometer for recording timed sequences of up to 10,000 exposures over a time period of 100 hours.
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  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    NeilL wrote:
    Too true!! :D:D:D

    BTW Icebear did you ever get that wireless remote for your D200 from HK, and how is it?

    Yep. I did get it. Performs as advertised, and they even included a battery. I've used it remotely through two frame and plaster walls. Good enough for my purposes so far. Haven't tested for max distance though, but so far everything they said about it holds up.
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  • jchinjchin Registered Users Posts: 713 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    Icebear wrote:
    Yep. I did get it. Performs as advertised, and they even included a battery. I've used it remotely through two frame and plaster walls. Good enough for my purposes so far. Haven't tested for max distance though, but so far everything they said about it holds up.

    Can you provide me a link to the one you bought?
    I am looking for one also. Thanks.
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  • IcebearIcebear Registered Users Posts: 4,015 Major grins
    edited February 12, 2008
    They've got one right now on ebay at this link. It's HK Supply. They're pretty huge.
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