Landscape/portrait watermarks and square thumbs
I did a search and can't find anything related. I uploaded pictures to a new gallery with the square thumbs and my landscape watermark (bottom right) activated. After uploading I wanted to apply my portrait watermark (bottom middle) to the portrait oriented pictures, only to find out there is no way to find out which pictures are landscape and which are portrait.
So I go into the gallery (example), select 'Watermarking' from the photo tools menu and (off course) all I see is square thumbs! Impossible to tell landscape from portrait! Any ideas?
Yikes. This is a real problem. Unfortunately, I don't think right now there is a solution other than undoing square thumbs, setting your watermark, and redoing square thumbs. Hopefully they're working on a solution to this unforseen problem. It's the same with adding bulk comments and keywords. If a person in a group shot is cut off by the square crop, then they will not be visible and will likely be missed in bulk keywording.
I really like square thumbs, but it wasn't fully thought out when implemented. I still applaud smugmug pushing forward, and I am really appreciative that, per Andy, the crew is working to fix all the problems square thumbs brought. I think in the end it will be worth it...as long as the growing pains don't last too long.
I did a search and can't find anything related. I uploaded pictures to a new gallery with the square thumbs and my landscape watermark (bottom right) activated. After uploading I wanted to apply my portrait watermark (bottom middle) to the portrait oriented pictures, only to find out there is no way to find out which pictures are landscape and which are portrait.
So I go into the gallery (example), select 'Watermarking' from the photo tools menu and (off course) all I see is square thumbs! Impossible to tell landscape from portrait! Any ideas?
Return of Square Thumbs
Andy I was very pleased to see that smugmug had restored my thumbs to rectangular on my Seabird gallery.
However today I uploaded nine photos to that gallery and all were square.
Could you please fix that gallery plus Nautical (and any new ones I create) to receive only rectangular thumbs unless otherwise changed? Thanks you. Robert Spencer www.northland.smugmug.com
Andy I was very pleased to see that smugmug had restored my thumbs to rectangular on my Seabird gallery.
However today I uploaded nine photos to that gallery and all were square.
Could you please fix that gallery plus Nautical (and any new ones I create) to receive only rectangular thumbs unless otherwise changed? Thanks you. Robert Spencer www.northland.smugmug.com
They "returned" because your gallery was set to 'square thumbs' - yes. I set it to 'no' for you, and I'm unsquaring the thumbs right now. Have a read of post #1 in this thread again, so you can be sure to set a quick setting for gallery creation, with no square thumbs set
We're working on making this all much easier for you all. Sorry for the hassle.
Andy I was very pleased to see that smugmug had restored my thumbs to rectangular on my Seabird gallery.
However today I uploaded nine photos to that gallery and all were square.
Could you please fix that gallery plus Nautical (and any new ones I create) to receive only rectangular thumbs unless otherwise changed? Thanks you. Robert Spencer www.northland.smugmug.com
Andy I was very pleased to see that smugmug had restored my thumbs to rectangular on my Seabird gallery.
However today I uploaded nine photos to that gallery and all were square.
Could you please fix that gallery plus Nautical (and any new ones I create) to receive only rectangular thumbs unless otherwise changed? Thanks you. Robert Spencer www.northland.smugmug.com
Both galleries are back to normal. Your new gallery 'Sea Bird (new)' I set to 'thumbs - no' for you.
It's a case of horses for courses, but IMHO what's so great about square thumbs (and why I've jumped through the BZT script hoops in the past) is it gives a cleaner, more uniform, IMHO more professional look to the smugmug styled galleries. Sucks that you had so much trouble, though--I thought I'd read ealrier that you could just re-do the watermarks to the same one you already had & that would trigger the thumb generation.
I shoot portrait most often, guess what that gets you with square thumb? Headless torsos. The watermarking bug has been around for awhile and nothing has been done about it. I was not surprised when it once again reared its ugly head.
Square thumbs is the one thing I actually dislike about Zenfolio. Go Figure. To make square thumbs work for me anyway, some sort facial recognition code needs to be employed to help alleviate the headless torso syndrome.
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Why not create a square thumbnail at the same time?
Then when people change the square thumbs setting, it's instant and can be changed back and forth without any trouble. It'll also give app developers easy access to square thumbs without the user having to convert their image within SmugMug.
Just a thought. Maybe I should add this to the feature requests thread.
Why not create a square thumbnail at the same time?
Then when people change the square thumbs setting, it's instant and can be changed back and forth without any trouble. It'll also give app developers easy access to square thumbs without the user having to convert their image within SmugMug.
Just a thought. Maybe I should add this to the feature requests thread.
This is an excellent idea. Thumbs are really small so it shouldn't be a storage issue.
Thumbnail Aspect Ratio
I just noticed on my last upload that the thumbnails are displayed as "squares" rather than with the photo's 6x4 aspect ratio. Rather obnoxious since the "square" crops rather than scales. Anyone know what has changed or if there is a way to avoid this? You can find an example at http://www.garymurray.smugmug.com/Charger%20Track%202008 The galleries Buddy Robertson and Rio Rancho are the ones I recently uploaded. Thanks
I just noticed on my last upload that the thumbnails are displayed as "squares" rather than with the photo's 6x4 aspect ratio. Rather obnoxious since the "square" crops rather than scales. Anyone know what has changed or if there is a way to avoid this? You can find an example at http://www.garymurray.smugmug.com/Charger%20Track%202008 The galleries Buddy Robertson and Rio Rancho are the ones I recently uploaded. Thanks
Been waiting for this. I love it! Thanks!!!
Question: How do I control the size of the thumbnail? I want to make them about 20-30% smaller than what the smallest size is now so that the selected preview photo gets more space.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm in the minority - but I'm a non regular quadrilateralization kind of guy. I shoot a lot of sports in the portrait orientation, so when they get squared, the heads come off. Not so great unless you can identify yourself by your torso.
I use "Send to Smugmug" to upload and typically create a new gallery as part of that process, so the new square thumbnails default hoses my workflow. Hopefully, Omar can help us out with an update.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm in the minority - but I'm a non-square kind of guy. I shoot a lot of sports in the portrait orientation, so when they get squared, the heads come off. Not so great unless you can identify yourself by your torso.
I use "Send to Smugmug" to upload and typically create a new gallery as part of that process. How can I set the default for new galleries to be non-square? And for those I've already uploaded, how can I un-square? I used the customize gallery dropdown, but turning the "square thumbnails" to "no" doesn't undo the regular quadrilateralizaton.
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The developer (Omar Shahine) will be adding square thumbs choice in the uploader.
For now, you can create a gallery, set the settings, then upload.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm in the minority - but I'm a non-square kind of guy. I shoot a lot of sports in the portrait orientation, so when they get squared, the heads come off. Not so great unless you can identify yourself by your torso.
I use "Send to Smugmug" to upload and typically create a new gallery as part of that process. How can I set the default for new galleries to be non-square? And for those I've already uploaded, how can I un-square? I used the customize gallery dropdown, but turning the "square thumbnails" to "no" doesn't undo the regular quadrilateralizaton.
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If you have a pro account and a watermark, go to watermark in photo tools, select all add the watermark. If no watermark, go to watermark in photo tools, select all and remove watermark. Both will regenerate the thumbs.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm in the minority - but I'm a non regular quadrilateralization kind of guy. I shoot a lot of sports in the portrait orientation, so when they get squared, the heads come off. Not so great unless you can identify yourself by your torso.
I use "Send to Smugmug" to upload and typically create a new gallery as part of that process, so the new square thumbnails default hoses my workflow. Hopefully, Omar can help us out with an update.
There is an option to "zoom thumbnail" in photo tools that allows you to set 1X1 and choose what part of the photo is shown in the square thumb. It is painfully slow to react and you have to do every photo individually. This cripples my workflow when returning from shooting 200 or so shots at a baseball game.
How about a bulk revise thumbnail tool?
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Square thumbs issues
I have setup a quick settings with square thumbs set to no, select this quick setting before I load new photos into the gallery and everytime I load new photos into the gallery they show up as square thumbs and when I check the customize gallery setting it has defaulted back to square thumbs. You said to pick the quick setting before you setup the gallery but I only know how to pick it after I've setup the gallery. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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I have been fighting this same issue. I uploaded a ton of photos before I figued out what the whole squre thumbs thing was about. Either way, I have all my galleries clicked to "NO" for the square thumbs thing-a-ma-jig now, however, they will not go back to the way they are supposed to be, it's kind of fustrating. The problem for me occurs when you go into a gallery, on photos that are orinented "Portriat" style or photos that are tall and skinny it chops off the top part of the photo in the preview so as you can not really tell what you are looking at. I have a bunch of sports photos, and it kinda sucks when you can't see the faces of the kids. If you click on the picture it loads fine and all the info is present, it just makes previewing a PIA.
Hopefully someone will figure this out, would love to hear of a solution.
I have setup a quick settings with square thumbs set to no, select this quick setting before I load new photos into the gallery and everytime I load new photos into the gallery they show up as square thumbs and when I check the customize gallery setting it has defaulted back to square thumbs. You said to pick the quick setting before you setup the gallery but I only know how to pick it after I've setup the gallery. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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Hi, what is the name of the quicksetting you are using, we'll check.
I have been fighting this same issue. I uploaded a ton of photos before I figued out what the whole squre thumbs thing was about. Either way, I have all my galleries clicked to "NO" for the square thumbs thing-a-ma-jig now, however, they will not go back to the way they are supposed to be, it's kind of fustrating. The problem for me occurs when you go into a gallery, on photos that are orinented "Portriat" style or photos that are tall and skinny it chops off the top part of the photo in the preview so as you can not really tell what you are looking at. I have a bunch of sports photos, and it kinda sucks when you can't see the faces of the kids. If you click on the picture it loads fine and all the info is present, it just makes previewing a PIA.
Hopefully someone will figure this out, would love to hear of a solution.
Hi, read post one of this thread, for how to unSquare for the time being. And how to set a quick setting, and use it.
In the meantime, we're working hard to set up a tool that will allow you to easily unsquare or square as you like, and hopefully handle portrait images more gracefully too
There is an option to "zoom thumbnail" in photo tools that allows you to set 1X1 and choose what part of the photo is shown in the square thumb. It is painfully slow to react and you have to do every photo individually. This cripples my workflow when returning from shooting 200 or so shots at a baseball game.
How about a bulk revise thumbnail tool?
Z
I understand the headless torso thing--I always adjusted that when using the BZT script, a quick look through the gallery & shift the square as necessary. Unfortunately it seems BZT is currently broken from these new updates; having it work again would allow us to have our cake & eat it too.
Question: How do I control the size of the thumbnail? I want to make them about 20-30% smaller than what the smallest size is now so that the selected preview photo gets more space.
Thanks.
I'm guessing it can't be done yet?
Hopefully in time.
I understand the headless torso thing--I always adjusted that when using the BZT script, a quick look through the gallery & shift the square as necessary. Unfortunately it seems BZT is currently broken from these new updates; having it work again would allow us to have our cake & eat it too.
BZT is still working for me (although I did have to get the latest version of the code about two weeks ago). If you head out to the BZT thread there is a link at the top of the thread directing you to the code.
Without BZT, I would also be looking to disable the square thumbs.
BZT is still working for me (although I did have to get the latest version of the code about two weeks ago). If you head out to the BZT thread there is a link at the top of the thread directing you to the code.
Without BZT, I would also be looking to disable the square thumbs.
Yep, got it fixed. I checked again & discovered the latest version is 3.1--I had thought 2.8 was still current. So, now I'm happily eating my cake.
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I did a search and can't find anything related. I uploaded pictures to a new gallery with the square thumbs and my landscape watermark (bottom right) activated. After uploading I wanted to apply my portrait watermark (bottom middle) to the portrait oriented pictures, only to find out there is no way to find out which pictures are landscape and which are portrait.
So I go into the gallery (example), select 'Watermarking' from the photo tools menu and (off course) all I see is square thumbs! Impossible to tell landscape from portrait! Any ideas?
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I really like square thumbs, but it wasn't fully thought out when implemented. I still applaud smugmug pushing forward, and I am really appreciative that, per Andy, the crew is working to fix all the problems square thumbs brought. I think in the end it will be worth it...as long as the growing pains don't last too long.
Andy I was very pleased to see that smugmug had restored my thumbs to rectangular on my Seabird gallery.
However today I uploaded nine photos to that gallery and all were square.
Could you please fix that gallery plus Nautical (and any new ones I create) to receive only rectangular thumbs unless otherwise changed? Thanks you. Robert Spencer
www.northland.smugmug.com
We're working on making this all much easier for you all. Sorry for the hassle.
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I shoot portrait most often, guess what that gets you with square thumb? Headless torsos. The watermarking bug has been around for awhile and nothing has been done about it. I was not surprised when it once again reared its ugly head.
Square thumbs is the one thing I actually dislike about Zenfolio. Go Figure. To make square thumbs work for me anyway, some sort facial recognition code needs to be employed to help alleviate the headless torso syndrome.
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Just a thought...
When we upload imgs to SmugMug, various resized images are automatically created (from the smugmug.images.getURLs API call):
String "AlbumURL"
String "TinyURL"
String "ThumbURL"
String "SmallURL"
String "MediumURL"
String "LargeURL" (if available)
String "XLargeURL" (if available)
String "X2LargeURL" (if available)
String "X3LargeURL" (if available)
String "OriginalURL" (if available)
Why not create a square thumbnail at the same time?
Then when people change the square thumbs setting, it's instant and can be changed back and forth without any trouble. It'll also give app developers easy access to square thumbs without the user having to convert their image within SmugMug.
Just a thought. Maybe I should add this to the feature requests thread.
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This is an excellent idea. Thumbs are really small so it shouldn't be a storage issue.
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I just noticed on my last upload that the thumbnails are displayed as "squares" rather than with the photo's 6x4 aspect ratio. Rather obnoxious since the "square" crops rather than scales. Anyone know what has changed or if there is a way to avoid this? You can find an example at http://www.garymurray.smugmug.com/Charger%20Track%202008 The galleries Buddy Robertson and Rio Rancho are the ones I recently uploaded. Thanks
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Been waiting for this. I love it! Thanks!!!
Question: How do I control the size of the thumbnail? I want to make them about 20-30% smaller than what the smallest size is now so that the selected preview photo gets more space.
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I'm in the minority - but I'm a non regular quadrilateralization kind of guy. I shoot a lot of sports in the portrait orientation, so when they get squared, the heads come off. Not so great unless you can identify yourself by your torso.
I use "Send to Smugmug" to upload and typically create a new gallery as part of that process, so the new square thumbnails default hoses my workflow. Hopefully, Omar can help us out with an update.
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For now, you can create a gallery, set the settings, then upload.
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There is an option to "zoom thumbnail" in photo tools that allows you to set 1X1 and choose what part of the photo is shown in the square thumb. It is painfully slow to react and you have to do every photo individually. This cripples my workflow when returning from shooting 200 or so shots at a baseball game.
How about a bulk revise thumbnail tool?
Z
I have setup a quick settings with square thumbs set to no, select this quick setting before I load new photos into the gallery and everytime I load new photos into the gallery they show up as square thumbs and when I check the customize gallery setting it has defaulted back to square thumbs. You said to pick the quick setting before you setup the gallery but I only know how to pick it after I've setup the gallery. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
photographythatspeaks.smugmug.com
Hopefully someone will figure this out, would love to hear of a solution.
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In the meantime, we're working hard to set up a tool that will allow you to easily unsquare or square as you like, and hopefully handle portrait images more gracefully too
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I understand the headless torso thing--I always adjusted that when using the BZT script, a quick look through the gallery & shift the square as necessary. Unfortunately it seems BZT is currently broken from these new updates; having it work again would allow us to have our cake & eat it too.
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I'm guessing it can't be done yet?
Hopefully in time.
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Or all the galleries in a category?
Or is it go into each gallery and rotate back and forth?
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BZT is still working for me (although I did have to get the latest version of the code about two weeks ago). If you head out to the BZT thread there is a link at the top of the thread directing you to the code.
Without BZT, I would also be looking to disable the square thumbs.
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Yep, got it fixed. I checked again & discovered the latest version is 3.1--I had thought 2.8 was still current. So, now I'm happily eating my cake.
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