I think for many of us LPS became a way to stretch and learn. Sure a prize may have been nice, but that was not my main motivation.
Having a theme to work off of made you look at things differently. I began to see things in a completely different light throughout the challenges.
I want to sincerely thank all those that made it happen! From the organizers, sponsors, volunteer judges and everyone else that I'm forgetting. THANK YOU.
I know that there are the weekly assignments, other places to post (people, journeys, and so on) etc. But one doesn't get the C&C from everyone that they would get here during a LPS round.
I don't know if there would be others interested, but I'd love to see challenges like the ones that were given for LPS, purely for personal growth as photographers. Themed rounds.....a deadline....a chance to ask for advice before a final entry is entered......a chance to give behind the scenes tips/secrets.
No judges, if voting, then public voting by poll (so there's no need for judges, and not a hardship on individuals to judge and then face the backlash of those not happy with the results) Those participating would know that there weren't any prizes, besides bragging rights.
There may not be as many people participating due to the lack of prizes, but, I truly believe there is a good group of people here that have become "colleagues" in one way or another that would love to continue to see each other grow in our art.
I may not have won any of the rounds I participated in, but the growth I was able to see in my own work and the works of others was truly a prize in and of itself.
I think that the current "day in the life" thread and the excitement following it shows that there would be an interest. I think a good group of us are "hungry" for a challenge, prizes or not.
Thanks to Shay, Andy, the Doctor and all the others who helped with LPS. I enjoyed the challenges for the feedback and the ability to try and improve my photography. I believe that LPS provided that for me and I am most appreciative. The ability to compare my work to others and be critiqued while being able to see other techniques and abilities was great.
LPS was a great contest! I enjoyed it completely, enjoyed the community, and it kept me shooting on a regular basis... It also made me a better photographer. It's a shame that it has to end on a sour note... Thanks to all who put it together and made it happen... I look forward to whatever challenges/contests are put forth in the future...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I must admit that during LPS I always wanted to be chosen to judge one of the rounds... I felt like it would be the ultimate affirmation of my skill as a photographer... So in the future consider me a more than willing dgrinner to help out in any capacity needed! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" > <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Thanks again for the opportunity to participate in a sometimes grueling year long contest...<o:p></o:p>
I watched the end of LPS and was looking forward to participating in the next one. I think that Dgrin is the best forum around and will look forward to participating in as much as I can in anything you have! Prizes don't matter...I have learned so much from this site and hope only the best for all the moderators and volunteers that have worked so hard for so long. Not only just for the LPS...but the beautiful tuturials and help you all give is awsome! Keep up the good work!
I wish it weren't so, but we can't continue the LPS.
Sorry to hear about this Andy as LPS was definitely something unique. Although I didn't particpate, it was great to see DGrin members who grew photographically throughout the contest. Hats off to Shay, Doc and yourself for all your effort that was put into LPS...
But then it was our Host, Shay, who can't come back due to personal reasons.
I really hope that Shay is doing O.K. I wish there was something that we could do for him considering how much of himself that he gave to the community here...
Again, thanks to all DGrin staff and volunteers that make this a great place to share photography experiences and knowledge. Not to mention the great friendly environment...
Honestly- I think you have made a good choice in not doing it again. Those of us that were here in its entirety got sick of all the complaints and those that left the community over this contest. Can only imagine your own feelings. It was a fantastic learning experience (for all involved) and showcased some fantastic work from dgrinners. However unless you have a full time staff to concentrate on the contest and either prevent or ignore PM's it is too much to deal with over time.
In reality the challenges and contests can continue much like LPS did. There are still plenty of sponsors out there willing to contribute- some fantastic themes in your heads and more submitted by dgrinners in past threads- and there is still a ton on fantastic photographers on this site!
I applaud the two of you for making a decision that will give you a little peace. Angry mods makes for a crappy community
I am happy to see so many people express their concern for Shay and show there willingness to help out the future contests and challenges in any way. I hope the mods see that and it restores some of the happiness lost over the past year. You all have done a fantastic job and I look forward to participating- assisting- and growing as we continue forward.
Thanks again!
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You wouldn't believe the amount of wasted time by private message, to Shay, to Erik, to me, over the past 15 months. It's *shocking* and frankly, it's been a real downer, we tried not to let it affect us but in fact it was a real drag.
to the people responsible for these PM's and whinings,
Maybe LPS, like reality shows, was a little too real. The highs a little too high, the lows a little too low for comfort.
I was aware that it was stressful, and good things can be stressful as well as bad - the tension of meeting the relentless schedules, trying to best the other guys as the ante was upped round after round, thrashing out a consensus on the interpretation of the rules, the approach to judging, facing your shortcomings, the repeated, extended effort to pick yourself up and start again, or to maintain the hope that a place in a heat or semi gave you for the finals (I speak as a sensitive observer, who entered just one unsuccessful pic but who got involved in other ways)... a similar intensity leaked from behind the official wall.
Such things are characteristic of all great contests, and like them LPS took on a life of its own, something which evidently the organisers didn't have in mind. In the end it became too big to fit into the DGrin space.
Certainly nothing lost, and as many have expressed, a huge amount was gained. This was happily so for me.
Without LPS DGrin will still be a lot of fun, and that's because there are a lot of people here who just wanna have fun. The essential ingredient for a successful party!
Thanks for the memories (to steal a line)
Thanks again to the Smugmug crew. Many of us take for granted the time and effort that y'all put into making this such a great place to hang out virtually. Without you, I would not have advanced as I have in my abilities. The contest did add a bit more incentive (a somewhat harder push) to get out the door and expand my photographic portfolio, shooting things that I never would have "seen" as photographic and uniquely beautiful in their own right. Your time and efforts are incredibly appreciated by the majority!
Now the one thing that I will like to see.... Since LPS 1 concluded, there has been a drop in particpation in the forums from those that were routinely posting in the competition thread, or at least thats the way I perceive it. Please remain active in the other forums! As strange as it sounds, we share bond of a love for a common interest and even though I "know" very few of you, it feels like friends have disappeared.
Okay, that was my seldom seen mushy side. I'll put it back now. I'm glad to see that Paul got the ball rolling on the "the Day in a Life" thread (which I had a blast doing btw). Who else has an idea for the crowd?
Life with out LPS...that is a hard pill to swallow and although I can completely understand the reasons. It seems an awful shame to just let this contest go.
This LPS thing clearly has many great things about it that seem to far out weighed the "negative" and not to mention it seems to have value to a few dgrinners.
Seems a waste to allow this contest go away....hmmm does it really have to go away?
I wonder if it would be possible to keep the contest the way it is with the addition of 2 rules?
1) 1st round is judged by the top 10 from the final round of LPS I- 10 Judges can not compete in Round 1 2) 2nd round is judged by the top 10 from the 1st round - again judges from 1st round can not compete in Round 2 but round 1 judges are now in the hopper
3) Topic for 1st round is choose by our well deserving winner (Vandana) of LPS I 4) Topic for 2nd round is choose by winner of the 1st round etc...
5) Semi final is open vote
Rule One: If you play and are in the top 10 you agree to judge (if you fail to judge we spam you with PMs) Rule two: No PM's, no winning, no fussing, it is what it is don't like it don't play. You choose to ignore said rule and we all spam you with PMs
No prizes unless someone really wants to ante something up for the fun of it...hmm seems I have a fotofloting gift certificate that I got for xmas that may find a home in a good will pot?
For me this contest was fun...fun enough to to suggest the above as I really don't like the idea of it going away for any reason.
Weekly challenge would be nice but being the crowned LPS II would be a fairly nice title to have wouldn't it?
One could even "digitally sign" an entry agreement prior to being able to compete..... stating that the entrant understands and agrees to said rules. (I would even fax in a signed entry form) There are other type contests where you have to fill out an application. Said entrants would have to agree with the...."this is the way it is, no whining, fussing , or PMing Mods to complain" or not compete. Failure to abide by said rules would result in dismissal from the contest. Period.
Life with out LPS...that is a hard pill to swallow and although I can completely understand the reasons. It seems an awful shame to just let this contest go.
This LPS thing clearly has many great things about it that seem to far out weighed the "negative" and not to mention it seems to have value to a few dgrinners.
Seems a waste to allow this contest go away....hmmm does it really have to go away?
I wonder if it would be possible to keep the contest the way it is with the addition of 2 rules?
1) 1st round is judged by the top 10 from the final round of LPS I- 10 Judges can not compete in Round 1 2) 2nd round is judged by the top 10 from the 1st round - again judges from 1st round can not compete in Round 2 but round 1 judges are now in the hopper
3) Topic for 1st round is choose by our well deserving winner (Vandana) of LPS I 4) Topic for 2nd round is choose by winner of the 1st round etc...
5) Semi final is open vote
Rule One: If you play and are in the top 10 you agree to judge (if you fail to judge we spam you with PMs) Rule two: No PM's, no winning, no fussing, it is what it is don't like it don't play. You choose to ignore said rule and we all spam you with PMs
No prizes unless someone really wants to ante something up for the fun of it...hmm seems I have a fotofloting gift certificate that I got for xmas that may find a home in a good will pot?
For me this contest was fun...fun enough to to suggest the above as I really don't like the idea of it going away for any reason.
Weekly challenge would be nice but being the crowned LPS II would be a fairly nice title to have wouldn't it?
Seems a waste to allow this contest go away....hmmm does it really have to go away?
The major problem is the year-long format, that is what brings us the headache and makes the work too much for a volunteer staff.
I know many of you have offered to help, and we appreciate it, in fact, we are tapping a few of you for help already, but we just can't expect any volunteer to be able to commit that much time, consistently for an entire year. This comes on the heels of judging consistency being a key crux in LPS 1 (forget the whole composites crap, I'm deleting the next peeing contest that comes up on that ).
It turned me into a downright crank, and Shay has dropped off the earth. No, its just not fair. As I've said many times, it would have to be even bigger and better.
Don't worry, this forum isn't just going to the cats, the Dgrin Challenges are coming back, better than before.
Sad to see LPS go, but know that you guys will come up with something new and exciting. Even if it's just for fun and no prizes I'm sure there will be plenty of involvement and participants. That's what make this place so great, it's more like an extended family.
A big hand to Shay, Andy, and Erik for putting up with the crap and still being able to provide something as fun and educational as the contests.
If you guys need any help just give a holler. After all that I've learned here it would be my pleasure to help out.
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The major problem is the year-long format, that is what brings us the headache and makes the work too much for a volunteer staff.
I know many of you have offered to help, and we appreciate it, in fact, we are tapping a few of you for help already, but we just can't expect any volunteer to be able to commit that much time, consistently for an entire year. This comes on the heels of judging consistency being a key crux in LPS 1 (forget the whole composites crap, I'm deleting the next peeing contest that comes up on that ).
It turned me into a downright crank, and Shay has dropped off the earth. No, its just not fair. As I've said many times, it would have to be even bigger and better.
Don't worry, this forum isn't just going to the cats, the Dgrin Challenges are coming back, better than before.
Firstly I would like to say thanks to Shay, Andy and Erik for the best competition ever. My hat is eternally removed in gratitude.bow
Thanks also to all the participants who actively got involved in ensuring that anyone who wanted to became a better photographer (and person).
I know I'm not going to change anyones mind, BUT...
It seems to me that LPS was a great success, from the participants point of view, based on the format that the competition took.
The different personalities of the support staff, that did the background work, were the driving force behind the great format that it was.
The problem, from reading between the many lines, seems to be (1) too much work for a volunteer based "job", (2) too much effort to make keep it running at the same high level and (3) too hard to keep going insane from all the bickering.
Also my understanding is that the problem is not (1) Prizes, (2) willing participants, (3) ideas for themes for LPSII.
I know that none of us know or understand what Shay, Andy and Erik went through behind the scenes. It is obvious that it was not pretty.
So, where am I going with this?
Looking at it from a management point of view, it would seem that in the case of LPS I, the chefs were also the cooks (with some pretty lousy customers). Is it not possible to setup an LPS "company" or "kitchen" where the responsibilities can be shared among a number of willing "employees" or "cooks". The burden is much lighter when shared with many.
It would seem to me that, if the Chef's are willing the cooks will come...and the LPS restaurant could be open for business again.
Even though my hopes are low, I hope that you would reconsider your decision and look at creating a great dynamic "management team" to help drive this competition forward.
I am so thankful to Erik Andy and Shay. for bringing it all together for us to participate and share experiences with. I am sad that it wont continue but I am happy about the Challenges. I had not participated in them before but I certainly will be giving that a try.
I can not even imagine the enormous responsibilities that all of you have had to deal with and just want to say how truly grateful I am. I had a great time with every entry and it challenged me to think outside my viewfinder. I have grown and learned tons to push me even further.
I happily volunteer my assistance if I can be of help in any way.
Thanks to all of Dgrins people that are forever behind the scenes helping us out with other things as well.
I've been a moderator for a few forums and admined many money prize tournaments in my second hobby of gaming and I know the feeling of putting up with the :bigbs
that eventually gets you frustrated with the community and actually makes you dislike your hobby to the point that you want to just disappear and move on to other hobbies. That last thread about composites, two months after the contest is over because someone wants clarification on the rules in a contest they probably didn't even participate in, would have ended it for me too.
I wonder if Canon responds to the whiners that complain they didn't win the latest Parks contest. Probably not.
Oh well, would be nice to have another chance at $7500 to pay off some of my photography habit debt.
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Might I suggest an LPSII that doesn't have such lavish prizes? Or, prizes that are WAY more spread out? i.e. $100 for each round to #1, $50 for #2, etc.. OR, even better.. Some cool (and cheap) toys? I.e. Whibal cards, filters, Amazon gift certificates (!), etc.. I think the whole issue was the amount of money at stake. People do dumb things when there's a lot of money in front of them..
I've stayed away from this for a while, but, I really enjoyed LPS I. I did well on some photos, others lost miserably (but, I learned something in the process). Overall, I think I'm better now than I was because of LPS pushing me. It's a shame to see it go, but, I totally understand why.
Might I suggest an LPSII that doesn't have such lavish prizes?
You might, but I'll be the first to say that prizes were/are not the issue.
So basically, you suggest a watered down, tame version of LPS? Same thing, just less at stake? Booooo! Boring!! Shay's ghost is knocking you up-side the head right now!
Don't worry, you will be challenged...
There WILL be themed challenges... and judging... and critique... those are the key ingredients, and we're mixing them all up right now. LPS is DEAD! Long live the future! Stay tuned.
You might, but I'll be the first to say that prizes were/are not the issue.
So basically, you suggest a watered down, tame version of LPS? Same thing, just less at stake? Booooo! Boring!! Shay's ghost is knocking you up-side the head right now!
My idea was that if there was less at stake, there'd be less complaining.. But, maybe that wasn't the reason (you mean, people like to bitch and complain about stuff no matter what?!? )
Don't worry, you will be challenged...
There WILL be themed challenges... and judging... and critique... those are the key ingredients, and we're mixing them all up right now. LPS is DEAD! Long live the future! Stay tuned.
Good. I really had a lot of fun doing it.. But, I was in it for the fun/learning--win or lose it was a great experience.
Andy, Erik & Shay...
Would it ameliorate your pain and hassle if I PM'd you guys saying how much I like you, appreciate you and your hard work and how grateful I am for LPS I?
Oh, okay, I'll just post it here instead. Thanks for such a great LPS! It was such a gift to watch works of art being posted to each new entry thread. Awesome! On top of that, for the rounds I did enter, I was stretched and learned more than I ever thought I would have learned in a competition. Thank you!
"Just because no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist."
the future is now..no,.. wait...now!
I also came late to LPS. It wasn't what drew me to dgrin but when the shutter closed on what was my first entry last summer, I was hooked. I was awed by the entries and the inspired people behind each of them. And it got me out of the house with a camera in hand.
A big Thank you to all involved for bringing us LPS last year.
I'm sorry to read there will not be an LPS2.:cry
I look forward to seeing what's next.:D
A little bird told me...
The new challenges are not too far away...another couple of weeks at most hopefully.
It's been a LONG wait, hasn't it? Driving me crazy as I feel I'm in limbo land! While we're waiting, why don't you all say what you'd like to see most in the Challenges to come? Of course there's no guarantee that anyone will get what they want (and I'm sure there will always be someone who complains!), but at least it will help pass the time.
The new challenges are not too far away...another couple of weeks at most hopefully.
It's been a LONG wait, hasn't it? Driving me crazy as I feel I'm in limbo land! While we're waiting, why don't you all say what you'd like to see most in the Challenges to come? Of course there's no guarantee that anyone will get what they want (and I'm sure there will always be someone who complains!), but at least it will help pass the time.
I am hoping starting the challenges/contest/lps/ or whatever it is will bring some life back to the forum.
I have seen there is not as much interaction and feedback on photos as there were during the previous challenges and LPS. I also hope some of those that were very active during the LPS will come back as they seem to have stopped posting.
Mostly- looking for some challenges that make me think before I go shoot and hope I will grow as much this year as I did last year.
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Having a theme to work off of made you look at things differently. I began to see things in a completely different light throughout the challenges.
I want to sincerely thank all those that made it happen! From the organizers, sponsors, volunteer judges and everyone else that I'm forgetting. THANK YOU.
I know that there are the weekly assignments, other places to post (people, journeys, and so on) etc. But one doesn't get the C&C from everyone that they would get here during a LPS round.
I don't know if there would be others interested, but I'd love to see challenges like the ones that were given for LPS, purely for personal growth as photographers. Themed rounds.....a deadline....a chance to ask for advice before a final entry is entered......a chance to give behind the scenes tips/secrets.
No judges, if voting, then public voting by poll (so there's no need for judges, and not a hardship on individuals to judge and then face the backlash of those not happy with the results) Those participating would know that there weren't any prizes, besides bragging rights.
There may not be as many people participating due to the lack of prizes, but, I truly believe there is a good group of people here that have become "colleagues" in one way or another that would love to continue to see each other grow in our art.
I may not have won any of the rounds I participated in, but the growth I was able to see in my own work and the works of others was truly a prize in and of itself.
I think that the current "day in the life" thread and the excitement following it shows that there would be an interest. I think a good group of us are "hungry" for a challenge, prizes or not.
Maybe I am way off base
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I really hope that Shay is doing O.K. I wish there was something that we could do for him considering how much of himself that he gave to the community here...
Lee
In reality the challenges and contests can continue much like LPS did. There are still plenty of sponsors out there willing to contribute- some fantastic themes in your heads and more submitted by dgrinners in past threads- and there is still a ton on fantastic photographers on this site!
I applaud the two of you for making a decision that will give you a little peace. Angry mods makes for a crappy community
I am happy to see so many people express their concern for Shay and show there willingness to help out the future contests and challenges in any way.
Thanks again!
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to the people responsible for these PM's and whinings,
Sad news that there will not be an LPSII. I DO understand. I wouldn't want the responsibility of all the behind the scenes headaches.
Thank you, gentlemen, for all your hard work, it was an incredible experience for me!
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I was aware that it was stressful, and good things can be stressful as well as bad - the tension of meeting the relentless schedules, trying to best the other guys as the ante was upped round after round, thrashing out a consensus on the interpretation of the rules, the approach to judging, facing your shortcomings, the repeated, extended effort to pick yourself up and start again, or to maintain the hope that a place in a heat or semi gave you for the finals (I speak as a sensitive observer, who entered just one unsuccessful pic but who got involved in other ways)... a similar intensity leaked from behind the official wall.
Such things are characteristic of all great contests, and like them LPS took on a life of its own, something which evidently the organisers didn't have in mind. In the end it became too big to fit into the DGrin space.
Certainly nothing lost, and as many have expressed, a huge amount was gained. This was happily so for me.
Without LPS DGrin will still be a lot of fun, and that's because there are a lot of people here who just wanna have fun. The essential ingredient for a successful party!
Yay! Let's party!
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Thanks again to the Smugmug crew. Many of us take for granted the time and effort that y'all put into making this such a great place to hang out virtually. Without you, I would not have advanced as I have in my abilities. The contest did add a bit more incentive (a somewhat harder push) to get out the door and expand my photographic portfolio, shooting things that I never would have "seen" as photographic and uniquely beautiful in their own right. Your time and efforts are incredibly appreciated by the majority!
Now the one thing that I will like to see.... Since LPS 1 concluded, there has been a drop in particpation in the forums from those that were routinely posting in the competition thread, or at least thats the way I perceive it. Please remain active in the other forums! As strange as it sounds, we share bond of a love for a common interest and even though I "know" very few of you, it feels like friends have disappeared.
Okay, that was my seldom seen mushy side. I'll put it back now. I'm glad to see that Paul got the ball rolling on the "the Day in a Life" thread (which I had a blast doing btw). Who else has an idea for the crowd?
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This LPS thing clearly has many great things about it that seem to far out weighed the "negative" and not to mention it seems to have value to a few dgrinners.
Seems a waste to allow this contest go away....hmmm does it really have to go away?
I wonder if it would be possible to keep the contest the way it is with the addition of 2 rules?
1) 1st round is judged by the top 10 from the final round of LPS I- 10 Judges can not compete in Round 1
2) 2nd round is judged by the top 10 from the 1st round - again judges from 1st round can not compete in Round 2 but round 1 judges are now in the hopper
3) Topic for 1st round is choose by our well deserving winner (Vandana) of LPS I
4) Topic for 2nd round is choose by winner of the 1st round etc...
5) Semi final is open vote
Rule One: If you play and are in the top 10 you agree to judge (if you fail to judge we spam you with PMs)
Rule two: No PM's, no winning, no fussing, it is what it is don't like it don't play. You choose to ignore said rule and we all spam you with PMs
No prizes unless someone really wants to ante something up for the fun of it...hmm seems I have a fotofloting gift certificate that I got for xmas that may find a home in a good will pot?
For me this contest was fun...fun enough to to suggest the above as I really don't like the idea of it going away for any reason.
Weekly challenge would be nice but being the crowned LPS II would be a fairly nice title to have wouldn't it?
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I know many of you have offered to help, and we appreciate it, in fact, we are tapping a few of you for help already, but we just can't expect any volunteer to be able to commit that much time, consistently for an entire year. This comes on the heels of judging consistency being a key crux in LPS 1 (forget the whole composites crap, I'm deleting the next peeing contest that comes up on that
It turned me into a downright crank, and Shay has dropped off the earth. No, its just not fair. As I've said many times, it would have to be even bigger and better.
Don't worry, this forum isn't just going to the
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A big hand to Shay, Andy, and Erik for putting up with the crap and still being able to provide something as fun and educational as the contests.
If you guys need any help just give a holler. After all that I've learned here it would be my pleasure to help out.
Eric
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Firstly I would like to say thanks to Shay, Andy and Erik for the best competition ever. My hat is eternally removed in gratitude.
Thanks also to all the participants who actively got involved in ensuring that anyone who wanted to became a better photographer (and person).
I know I'm not going to change anyones mind, BUT...
It seems to me that LPS was a great success, from the participants point of view, based on the format that the competition took.
The different personalities of the support staff, that did the background work, were the driving force behind the great format that it was.
The problem, from reading between the many lines, seems to be (1) too much work for a volunteer based "job", (2) too much effort to make keep it running at the same high level and (3) too hard to keep going insane from all the bickering.
Also my understanding is that the problem is not (1) Prizes, (2) willing participants, (3) ideas for themes for LPSII.
I know that none of us know or understand what Shay, Andy and Erik went through behind the scenes. It is obvious that it was not pretty.
So, where am I going with this?
Looking at it from a management point of view, it would seem that in the case of LPS I, the chefs were also the cooks (with some pretty lousy customers). Is it not possible to setup an LPS "company" or "kitchen" where the responsibilities can be shared among a number of willing "employees" or "cooks". The burden is much lighter when shared with many.
It would seem to me that, if the Chef's are willing the cooks will come...and the LPS restaurant could be open for business again.
Even though my hopes are low, I hope that you would reconsider your decision and look at creating a great dynamic "management team" to help drive this competition forward.
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I am so thankful to
I can not even imagine the enormous responsibilities that all of you have had to deal with and just want to say how truly grateful I am. I had a great time with every entry and it challenged me to think outside my viewfinder. I have grown and learned tons to push me even further.
I happily volunteer my assistance if I can be of help in any way.
Thanks to all of Dgrins people that are forever behind the scenes helping us out with other things as well.
Peace, gail
that eventually gets you frustrated with the community and actually makes you dislike your hobby to the point that you want to just disappear and move on to other hobbies. That last thread about composites, two months after the contest is over because someone wants clarification on the rules in a contest they probably didn't even participate in, would have ended it for me too.
I wonder if Canon responds to the whiners that complain they didn't win the latest Parks contest. Probably not.
Oh well, would be nice to have another chance at $7500 to pay off some of my photography habit debt.
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I've stayed away from this for a while, but, I really enjoyed LPS I. I did well on some photos, others lost miserably (but, I learned something in the process). Overall, I think I'm better now than I was because of LPS pushing me. It's a shame to see it go, but, I totally understand why.
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So basically, you suggest a watered down, tame version of LPS? Same thing, just less at stake? Booooo! Boring!! Shay's ghost is knocking you up-side the head right now!
Don't worry, you will be challenged...
There WILL be themed challenges... and judging... and critique... those are the key ingredients, and we're mixing them all up right now. LPS is DEAD! Long live the future! Stay tuned.
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make them put into a open comment within a thread!!!!!!
Charlie
Would echo a few of the others that I would be happy to help out in any way needed to launch the new super contest.
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Would it ameliorate your pain and hassle if I PM'd you guys saying how much I like you, appreciate you and your hard work and how grateful I am for LPS I?
Oh, okay, I'll just post it here instead. Thanks for such a great LPS! It was such a gift to watch works of art being posted to each new entry thread. Awesome!
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I also came late to LPS. It wasn't what drew me to dgrin but when the shutter closed on what was my first entry last summer, I was hooked. I was awed by the entries and the inspired people behind each of them. And it got me out of the house with a camera in hand.
A big Thank you to all involved for bringing us LPS last year.
I'm sorry to read there will not be an LPS2.:cry
I look forward to seeing what's next.:D
The new challenges are not too far away...another couple of weeks at most hopefully.
It's been a LONG wait, hasn't it? Driving me crazy as I feel I'm in limbo land! While we're waiting, why don't you all say what you'd like to see most in the Challenges to come? Of course there's no guarantee that anyone will get what they want (and I'm sure there will always be someone who complains!), but at least it will help pass the time.
I am hoping starting the challenges/contest/lps/ or whatever it is will bring some life back to the forum.
I have seen there is not as much interaction and feedback on photos as there were during the previous challenges and LPS. I also hope some of those that were very active during the LPS will come back as they seem to have stopped posting.
Mostly- looking for some challenges that make me think before I go shoot and hope I will grow as much this year as I did last year.
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