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  • evorywareevoryware Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:



    I think I have improved, even if only a little rolleyes1.gif

    Yes sir, a vast improvement especially considering that is non-diffused light in Tawny's shots.
    Canon 40D : Canon 400D : Canon Elan 7NE : Canon 580EX : 2 x Canon 430EX : Canon 24-70 f2.8L : Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L USM : Canon 28-135mm f/3.5 IS : 18-55mm f/3.5 : 4GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2 x 1GB Sandisk Ultra II : Sekonik L358

    dak.smugmug.com
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    *INSERT SWEAR WORDS HERE*
    Did you get a grant or did you just save up like crazy?
    I got a couple of nice paid gigsclap.gif , plus I was saving for 6D...rolleyes1.gif
    Finally came to my senses and decided that a better light is far more important than a few extra megapixels...deal.gif
    I'm still planning to get it eventually, though :-) :D
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • cmorganphotographycmorganphotography Registered Users Posts: 980 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    I was saving for 6D... :D

    *holds out hands for D3.*
    *holds out hope*
    *holds...*
    oh screw it I can barely afford my food and petrol.

    What should I invest in first? In your opinion? The hot glass or the software? I know they go together but I can get a nice 35-55 [I can't remember] for 100 and a few filters and another toy and some left over cash OR go buy aperture/postprocess software?
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    evoryware wrote:
    Yes sir, a vast improvement especially considering that is non-diffused light in Tawny's shots.
    You know, it's really funny...
    Cause originally (i.e. even aforementioned three months ago) I was blindly following the "diffused light is always better" mantra and tried to use umbrellas/brollyboxes regardless :bash
    Then it kinda dawned on me (I blame Joe McNally's book mwink.gif) that if I want to match the sun the first thing I need is a 1/4..1/2 CTO gel and, secondly, my light can be harsh since the local sun is harsh, even during the sunset. So I stopped carying that extra stuff, and the image quality has actually improved...deal.gif
    I'm not sure if it works in more cloudy/overcast areas, but I'm not shooting there anyway:-) rolleyes1.gif
    In any case - it helps to stop and look at all those written and non-written laws, rules and mantras from a side and check if they actually make sense in your particualr scenario...deal.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    *holds out hands for D3.*
    *holds out hope*
    *holds...*
    oh screw it I can barely afford my food and petrol.
    I hear you... $4.80+ here. Yet I'm driving about 300 miles (and even paying some cover fee:-) in two weeks for a couple of REALLY nice shoots...
    What should I invest in first? In your opinion? The hot glass or the software? I know they go together but I can get a nice 35-55 [I can't remember] for 100 and a few filters and another toy and some left over cash OR go buy aperture/postprocess software?
    So, you're not only nikonian girl, but a mac user too? eek7.gif Come on, I'm a windows canonite male shawinist mongrel, why does my opinion matter at all? mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif
    On a serious note: it's a tough call. It all depends on a multitude of factors (fund$, and I mean, fund$$$$$ being one of them). I know I will sound academic when I say
    1. Light
    2. Glass
    3. Body
    4. Software
    and it was, in fact, almost exactly the opposite the way how it worked for me (I started with lights, though, many thanks to Shay! bowdown.gif )
    Not sure if it helps...rolleyes1.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • cmorganphotographycmorganphotography Registered Users Posts: 980 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    So, you're not only nikonian girl, but a mac user too? <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > Come on, I'm a windows canonite male shawinist mongrel, why does my opinion matter at all?
    At least you know I'm a girl. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > Nikon/Mac is > you. I supposed you're going to tell me next you're a Panasonic/Samsung lover too. Sony/LG > you. I love my Mac Bookpro, once I get my video cord I'll have a 42" 1080p monitor. I'm going to rule then
    >.>
    <.<
    and then play some crazy awesome games.

    I'm hoping to set up an Alice in Wonderland shoot next. Can't wait. *wants to hear back from model* Schedules suck.
  • WildWallyWildWally Registered Users Posts: 494 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    Sorry , I am a bit different ..
    #'s 2 and 5 are absolutely wonderful !!!!
    Thank you for sharing these photos ...clap.gif
  • evorywareevoryware Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    1. Light
    2. Glass
    3. Body
    4. Software
    and it was, in fact, almost exactly the opposite the way how it worked for me (I started with lights, though, many thanks to Shay! bowdown.gif )
    Not sure if it helps...rolleyes1.gif

    Heh, when I started it was
    Glass
    Body
    Software
    Light


    Now that I know better it's
    Light
    Glass
    Software
    Body

    I hear that although exposure must be perfect, excellent lighting can even make a Nikon image look halfway descent. lol3.gif

    I use mac and pc. Both the same to me. Just different keys.
    Canon 40D : Canon 400D : Canon Elan 7NE : Canon 580EX : 2 x Canon 430EX : Canon 24-70 f2.8L : Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L USM : Canon 28-135mm f/3.5 IS : 18-55mm f/3.5 : 4GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2 x 1GB Sandisk Ultra II : Sekonik L358

    dak.smugmug.com
  • cmorganphotographycmorganphotography Registered Users Posts: 980 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2008
    evoryware wrote:
    I hear that although exposure must be perfect, excellent lighting can even make a Nikon image look halfway descent.
    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/clap.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    >.< There's no flipping difference between Canon and Nikon diffs! Spec for Spec a camera is a camera is a camera.

    I love the war though. Bicker on !!!!
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    Oh! you guys break me up!! rolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gif

    And your posts are like walking thru sideshow alley with all the grotesques and animation!!

    But, please, I beg you, don't go too much further without lifting the surface of your images and seeing what's underneath, cos it's what's underneath that gets on top. mwink.gif

    Nik, I don't like any of these images, really, but Nik I'm the color of a pond with a green algal bloom over your technique. :D

    And while I don't think these images go quite as far as your battery pack, I am left choking on YOUR dust!!

    If you'll forgive me for saying so, you think you are getting your ride on the female model, but no, you aren't. You are getting your ride on rearranging your view of the world. One day, indulge me further, I predict that you will do away with the model clothes prop, and put some real meat on the barbie. Sorry, can't predict exactly what will be on the menu, but I know we won't choke on the wrapping.

    It's being able to jump the next gap, whatever the gap is in - equipment or inspiration.

    Isn't nonsense a lot of fun?! clap.gifclapclap.gif
    "Snow. Ice. Slow!" "Half-winter. Half-moon. Half-asleep!"

    http://www.behance.net/brosepix
  • cmorganphotographycmorganphotography Registered Users Posts: 980 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    NeilL wrote:
    If you'll forgive me for saying so, you think you are getting your ride on the female model, but no, you aren't. You are getting your ride on rearranging your view of the world. One day, indulge me further, I predict that you will do away with the model clothes prop, and put some real meat on the barbie. Sorry, can't predict exactly what will be on the menu, but I know we won't choke on the wrapping.
    I'm lost. Are you saying she should just get nude and deal with it? Or are the dwarves marching over the hill? Or did Johnny fall down the well?
    Meat? Prop?
    I r lost.:cry
    *cough*
    Canons suck.
    *cough*
    Nikon Optics, better
    *cough*
    mwink.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif:D
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    I'm lost. Are you saying she should just get nude and deal with it? Or are the dwarves marching over the hill? Or did Johnny fall down the well?
    Meat? Prop?
    I r lost.:cry
    *cough*
    Canons suck.
    *cough*
    Nikon Optics, better
    *cough*
    mwink.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif:D

    Lost? How hard are you to find?

    In any case, we seem to have a fertile mix of metaphors. thumb.gif

    Yes, I would have done it naked, at least the first 3, which are the ones that count, not the same way as Nik, but with a metaphysicality to match the awesome setting.

    You can't speak when your mouth is gagged.

    Neil
    "Snow. Ice. Slow!" "Half-winter. Half-moon. Half-asleep!"

    http://www.behance.net/brosepix
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    WildWally wrote:
    Sorry , I am a bit different ..
    #'s 2 and 5 are absolutely wonderful !!!!
    Thank you for sharing these photos ...clap.gif
    My pleasure! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    NeilL wrote:
    Yes, I would have done it naked, at least the first 3, which are the ones that count, not the same way as Nik, but with a metaphysicality to match the awesome setting.
    Here in US you usually don't get a home run on a first date mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • cmorganphotographycmorganphotography Registered Users Posts: 980 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    Here in US you usually don't get a home run on a first date mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif
    It wouldn't be glamour and fashion photography without clothes.
    The costumes make it fun.
    However, there are all sorts of styles and flavours and it'd be a boring world if it were all the same, just not my cup of tea.
    Even if she were nude I still think there should be draped fabrics and maybe a softer prop to lay on... like a lounge chair or a couple of beanbags
    or something.
    A comfortable model is going to make good pictures. Lesson #1 by Nikolai.
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited June 29, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    Here in US you usually don't get a home run on a first date mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif


    Maybe... but where's the game if there is no bat and ball and no home plate? mwink.gifwinkmwink.gif

    Neil
    "Snow. Ice. Slow!" "Half-winter. Half-moon. Half-asleep!"

    http://www.behance.net/brosepix
  • NeilLNeilL Registered Users Posts: 4,201 Major grins
    edited June 29, 2008
    It wouldn't be glamour and fashion photography without clothes.
    The costumes make it fun.
    However, there are all sorts of styles and flavours and it'd be a boring world if it were all the same, just not my cup of tea.
    Even if she were nude I still think there should be draped fabrics and maybe a softer prop to lay on... like a lounge chair or a couple of beanbags
    or something.
    A comfortable model is going to make good pictures. Lesson #1 by Nikolai.

    Well, of course!

    But it's obvious, isn't it, that Nik has really no interest in clothes. thumb.gif

    When he comments himself on these photos he is careful to distance himself from the wardrobe items and decisions.

    His currently favored color is orange, which is most often nowadays worn as a warning signal. What danger is he signaling to us? That he is having ""bad" thoughts? And why was another recent model shoot full of decaying metal and chains, on a ship going nowhere? Along with, always, (over)exposed female model muscle? eek7.gif

    Oh I put it to you, this has nothing to do with glamor!! :D

    What Nik is really wanting to do in these pics is show us a mating between someone and something. The "someone" is him - the model is his avatar. The "something" is - ?

    If we wait he might eventually show us. If, that is, he can get the "model" sufficiently comfortable"!! thumb.gif

    Neil
    "Snow. Ice. Slow!" "Half-winter. Half-moon. Half-asleep!"

    http://www.behance.net/brosepix
  • JH-PhotoJH-Photo Registered Users Posts: 27 Big grins
    edited July 3, 2008
    I like the shoots, without the number 8.
    I don`t like the hand cutted and also don`t like feet cutted.
    I think cutting the feed is more bad than the hands ;-)

    But the rest of the pics are perfect.

    I also like that girl with this great body. But I am to far away, to ask you, who she is :-)

    I would appreciate, if you do more shoots with her :-)
    Very female and nice body.

    BR
    JH
    ______________________________________________________________________
    Is the pic not sharpe enough, your lenz was not close enough !
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 3, 2008
    JH-Photo wrote:
    I like the shoots, without the number 8.
    I don`t like the hand cutted and also don`t like feet cutted.
    I think cutting the feed is more bad than the hands ;-)

    But the rest of the pics are perfect.

    I also like that girl with this great body. But I am to far away, to ask you, who she is :-)

    I would appreciate, if you do more shoots with her :-)
    Very female and nice body.

    BR
    JH

    Thank you for C&C, JH! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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