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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 23, 2012 edited January 23, 2012

  Joe, exactly where and how are you seeing these errors in your Google Webmaster tools?

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 23, 2012 edited January 23, 2012

  503 errors
  Thanks for the reply Andy , when i go to my main dashboard in Google Webmasters i see the following ..............
  
  
  
  Issues Google encountered when crawling your site.
  Web Mobile CHTML Mobile WML/XHTML
  
  Show URLs: HTTP ‎(1)‎
  In Sitemaps ‎(34)‎
  Not found ‎(48)‎
  Restricted by robots.txt ‎(967)‎
  Unreachable ‎(2,643)‎
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  HTTP 1
  In Sitemaps 34
  Not found 48
  Restricted by robots.txt 967
  Unreachable 2,643
  Updated Jan 22, 2012
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Latest update was yesterday .......Thanks Joe

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 23, 2012 edited January 23, 2012

  Hi Joe, like I said before, sometimes Googlebot overwhelms us - and they can get a 503. It's nothing to worry about and what needs to be crawled will be crawled and has been crawled. I have some of those 503 errors too. I never worry about them.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 24, 2012 edited January 24, 2012

  503 errors
  The 503 errors are to do with the server you are using Andy , the total has now risen to 3601 from yesterday , and some of the examples from Google which they give a 503 warning to can now not be found on the web yet when i click on them they are available , take for example Carrickfergus castle, put into Google the page and the image are not even in the first five pages of results , yet last week when the 503 errors where at 645 the seach for Carrickfergus castle came up at the bottom of the first page and the photo was in the imaqges search please see example below
  
  Web Mobile CHTML Mobile WML/XHTML
  
  Show URLs: HTTP ‎(1)‎
  In Sitemaps ‎(135)‎
  Not found ‎(37)‎
  Restricted by robots.txt ‎(967)‎
  Unreachable ‎(3,601)‎
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  URLDetailDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Arm​agh​/20​524​155​_Vr​nKZ​f/1​625​553​863​_Vp​gbk​2H
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/pu​ert​o del car​man​/16​256​885​11_​2Fj​6J5​c
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​577​744​_TV​szx​5f
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/h​ome​pag​e/k​eyw​ord​cha​nge​.mg​?Ke​ywo​rds​By=​Pho​toR​ank​&go​To=​htt​p%3​A%2​F%2​Fww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k%2​Fke​ywo​rd%​2Fp​uer​to%​252​0de​l%2​520​car​man​%2F​162​568​851​1_2​Fj6​J5c​&ra​nd=​837​258​63
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​578​268​_S2​6xs​TD/​Sma​ll
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/h​ome​pag​e/k​eyw​ord​cha​nge​.mg​?Ke​ywo​rds​By=​Pho​toR​ank​&go​To=​htt​p%3​A%2​F%2​Fww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k%2​Fke​ywo​rd%​2Ff​low​ers​%25​20r​ose​s%2​F16​256​523​38_​9jW​Tzr​6&r​and​=63​696​629
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Arm​agh​/20​524​155​_Vr​nKZ​f/1​625​556​292​_Nm​CxN​sB/​Sma​ll
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​576​799​_cQ​TRW​d8
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​581​506​_SL​TzR​mD/​Lar​ge
  503 errorJan 21, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​582​078​_MR​Bsm​2p
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  And please see if this can be sorted out Joe

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  SamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins

  January 25, 2012 edited January 25, 2012

  I've been watching your 503 errors for a while now with curiosity. According to a definition I found online "503 Service Unavailable
  The server is currently unavailable (because it is overloaded or down for maintenance). Generally, this is a temporary state."
  
  If SM's servers were down/overloaded for a particular time when Google crawled, this makes sense. Such as if it crawled during one of the unscheduled outages, and kept that data in your report. Is there a way to limit the report to a particular time period? Like yesterday or a week ago?

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 25, 2012 edited January 25, 2012

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  SamirD wrote: »

  I've been watching your 503 errors for a while now with curiosity. According to a definition I found online "503 Service Unavailable
  The server is currently unavailable (because it is overloaded or down for maintenance). Generally, this is a temporary state."
  
  If SM's servers were down/overloaded for a particular time when Google crawled, this makes sense. Such as if it crawled during one of the unscheduled outages, and kept that data in your report. Is there a way to limit the report to a particular time period? Like yesterday or a week ago?

  
  
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  Interest and thanks for the reply , shown below this was updated yesterday by Google and is only a small sample of the 503 errors found in the SItemaps ..........
  
  DetailLinked FromDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/T​rav​el/​Lan​zar​ote​-Ph​oto​s-a​nd-​Ima​ges​/20​525​763​_Kq​8Hz​8/1​/16​256​887​19_​4Wp​MNk​6
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/F​low​ers​/Mo​unt​ste​war​t-H​ous​e-a​nd-​Gar​den​s/2​052​535​3_M​K7S​rN
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/po​rtr​ush sun​set
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/ne​ss riv​er bri​dge
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​162​554​528​9_V​HnH​rxS
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​162​554​890​3_M​225​qDr
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​162​554​755​7_z​HBQ​Qhg
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​256​57_​K8C​Hvp​f
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​164​941​506​0_G​Fbz​x39
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​162​554​414​3_h​4rp​gKm
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 22, 2012
  Updated Jan 24, 2012
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  Then there are the 3,850 503 errors found by Google and classed as " unreachable " and again updated yesteday ___________
  
  DetailDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/h​ome​pag​e/k​eyw​ord​cha​nge​.mg​?Ke​ywo​rds​By=​Pho​toR​ank​&go​To=​htt​p%3​A%2​F%2​Fww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k%2​Fke​ywo​rd%​2Fc​rai​gav​on%​2F1​%2F​162​562​976​6_8​rBR​xjH​&ra​nd=​595​552​30
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/T​rav​el/​Lan​zar​ote​-Ph​oto​s-a​nd-​Ima​ges​/20​525​763​_Kq​8Hz​8/1​/16​256​887​19_​4Wp​MNk​6
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/F​low​ers​/Mo​unt​ste​war​t-H​ous​e-a​nd-​Gar​den​s/2​052​535​3_M​K7S​rN
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/si​len​t val​ley​/1/​162​554​879​6_J​FLJ​X9p
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/ne​wto​wna​rds​/1/​162​563​665​1_v​tGq​NGn
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/po​rtr​ush sun​set
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​162​554​770​7_J​w5F​Rz9​/La​rge
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/ne​ss riv​er bri​dge
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/T​rav​el/​Lan​zar​ote​-Ph​oto​s-a​nd-​Ima​ges​/20​525​763​_Kq​8Hz​8/1​625​687​912​_Hd​H2Q​Jx/​Lar​ge
  503 errorJan 22, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/hi​lls​bor​oug​h lak​e/1​/16​555​696​55_​tbB​m4s​c
  503 errorJan 22, 2012Updated Jan 24, 2012
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  My point being that if Google cannot see these pages and crawll these pages then i loose out on the pages and images in Googles results , and as you quite rightly say the 503 error is because Google cannot get it from SM'S server , if the server cannot cope with Googles request , then surely something should be sorted out at that end , is this not what myself and the rest of the people in joining SM expect ???? .... certainly does not seem to be my fault anyway , i only upload ny pics and a few words !! Joe
  
  See also this link http://boardreader.com/thread/robots_txt_503_Service_unavailable_error_11njX3yil.html
  
  
  
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  NorthernBuck Registered Users Posts: 99 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  I don't know if it's the same thing or not but it's happened quite a few times in the last few days that when I type the address of my site I get an error saying the site is not found or it's off line or something. I figured it was just me. I have two sites and have had it happen with both but it has happened more with ACactionphotos.com than the other which is zrphoto.net .

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  NorthernBuck wrote: »

  I don't know if it's the same thing or not but it's happened quite a few times in the last few days that when I type the address of my site I get an error saying the site is not found or it's off line or something. I figured it was just me. I have two sites and have had it happen with both but it has happened more with ACactionphotos.com than the other which is zrphoto.net .

  
  Completely unrelated, Northernbuck. And if this is happening, please do check with your domain host for ACactionphotos.com an zrphoto.net to make sure nothing's up with them.... we've had no issues that would cause this to happen. And you can always check your site via nickname.smugmug.com as well.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  503 errors
  Hopefully Anfdy this is not unreleated see below , something wrong here !!
  
  In Sitemaps276Not found24Restricted by robots.txt969Unreachable4,140
  
  Updated Jan 25, 2012
  
  
  
  More »
  Keywords
  county (2 variants)
  
  niphotos
  
  ireland
  
  northern
  
  photographs (2 variants)
  
  
  
  More »
  
  Sitemaps
  SitemapStatusURLs in web index/si​tem​ap-​bas​e.x​ml.​gz
  423/si​tem​ap-​gal​ler​yim​age​s.x​ml.​gz
  459/si​tem​ap-​ind​ex.​xml
  459
  
  
  
  
  
  
  This was updated yesterday 0n 25 jan the unreachable has now risen to 4140 and not found in sitemaps is now at 276 ....see also below just a SMALL example !!
  
  
  Web Mobile CHTML Mobile WML/XHTML
  
  Show URLs: In Sitemaps ‎(276)‎
  Not found ‎(24)‎
  Restricted by robots.txt ‎(969)‎
  Unreachable ‎(4,140)‎
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  URLDetailDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/6​/16​255​810​04_​mvt​TdM​3
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/5​/16​255​805​98_​m6n​Jv8​k
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Dow​n-p​hot​ogr​aph​s/2​052​400​9_p​sSQ​jc/​2/1​625​543​793​_nL​hr2​Mv
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​578​072​_F4​rg2​3C/​Sma​ll
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​578​999​_tf​2f6​W7/​Sma​ll
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​582​637​_Zm​JWM​cG
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/4​/16​255​807​04_​Hzq​r3S​g
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/4​/16​255​805​98_​m6n​Jv8​k
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/ss nom​adi​c/2
  503 errorJan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/k​eyw​ord​/rs​pb/​2
  503 errorJan 23, 2012
  
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  Web Mobile CHTML Mobile WML/XHTML
  
  Show URLs: In Sitemaps ‎(276)‎
  Not found ‎(24)‎
  Restricted by robots.txt ‎(969)‎
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  URLDetailLinked FromDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​582​637​_Zm​JWM​cG
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​578​072​_F4​rg2​3C
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​575​972​_n8​sdF​jP
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​262​49_​rJM​nkZ​V
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/T​rav​el/​Lan​zar​ote​-Ph​oto​s-a​nd-​Ima​ges​/20​525​763​_Kq​8Hz​8/2​/16​256​888​28_​75D​WSd​f
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​279​65_​czF​sGR​h
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​286​85_​dJK​twS​3
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​284​67_​KxV​pwL​j
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​279​02_​pGS​PdN​H
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​289​66_​xVV​xDc​6
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012
  
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  Any chance of getting this sorted , not my fault as far as ican see , i only put on the photos and keywords .......... Joe

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

  
  Any chance of getting this sorted , not my fault as far as ican see , i only put on the photos and keywords .......... Joe

  
  There is nothing you need to do. The errors will go away. Like I said, Googlebot can at times overwhelm us and we don't let that happen - but over time the errors will disappear and this does not affect your page rank.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  502 errors
  Andy , i was told by you two weeks ago with only 1200 odd 503 errors that they would go away , they have not , they have now increased to over 4000 , now if you click on any of the 503 errors below , they will show you one of my pages with a photo and thumbnails with alt tags in them , something that Google looks for , if it cannot find them then how does this not affect my page rankings ??? , as for the server being overwhelmed , well maybe SM should look into this as it is affecting SM's customers pages ............ Joe
  
  
  URLDetailLinked FromDetectedhtt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​582​637​_Zm​JWM​cG
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​578​072​_F4​rg2​3C
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Ant​rim​/20​524​450​_Nh​fm8​V/1​625​575​972​_n8​sdF​jP
  503 errorunavailable
  Jan 23, 2012htt​p:/​/ww​w.n​iph​oto​s.c​o.u​k/P​hot​ogr​aph​y/C​oun​ty-​Lon​don​der​ry/​205​250​66_​T9t​gxR​/16​256​262​49_​rJM​nkZ​V
  503 errorunavailable
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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

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  Joe, I didn't check every one of your 503 errors. But just Google for this image, they have it in their index already.
  
  http://www.niphotos.co.uk/Travel/Lanzarote-Photos-and-Images/20525763_Kq8Hz8/2/1625688828_75DWSdf#!i=1625688828&k=75DWSdf
  
  Google Search
  
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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

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  Andy if you were to check all Four Thousand 503 errors that appear from Google you would be at it till Christmas , that was not my question to you , a 503 error is when Google or any other search engine cannot get the information as to my site from your server !!, you told me two weeks ago that the 503 errors would go away , they have not , they have increased now to 4,140 and 276 of my pages are classed as 503 errors in the Sitemaps , now can you not just confirm that the server your company is using is not collating the information as to my website to the search engines , this is fact , maybe you can make every effort to clear up this problem which just seems to be getting worse or ask the founder of SM Don MacAskill to look into it .............. Regards Joe

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

  Andy if you were to check all Four Thousand 503 errors that appear from Google you would be at it till Christmas , that was not my question to you , a 503 error is when Google or any other search engine cannot get the information as to my site from your server !!, you told me two weeks ago that the 503 errors would go away , they have not , they have increased now to 4,140 and 276 of my pages are classed as 503 errors in the Sitemaps , now can you not just confirm that the server your company is using is not collating the information as to my website to the search engines , this is fact , maybe you can make every effort to clear up this problem which just seems to be getting worse or ask the founder of SM Don MacAskill to look into it .............. Regards Joe

  
  Hi Joe, like I said, these won't affect your page rank and Google clearly has that recent image as of 4 days ago, if you'll just look at the search links I posted for you. We are always working on improving how Googlebot hits our site, and I can assure you that our Ops team is aware of these errors and that they will go down in the future.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

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  Ok Andy , will take you at you word and keep an eye on things , will post here in two weeks with the happy results.....Joe

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  SamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

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  Interest and thanks for the reply , shown below this was updated yesterday by Google and is only a small sample of the 503 errors found in the SItemaps ..........

  It seems like this is a cumulative total. Is there a way to restrict the report to just a single day to identify the 503 errors that occur on a particular day? Maybe analyzing on a day basis might shed some clues as to what's going on.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

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  Thanks for that Samir , hard to keep a hold on figures , but since my last post to Andy above , the unreachable has now climbed to 4182 , that is 4182 pages that Google cannot get because it cannot see the pages on SMs server !!...see below
  
  In Sitemaps177Not found21Restricted by robots.txt972Unreachable4,182
  
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  Need i say more

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 26, 2012 edited January 26, 2012

  SamirD wrote: »

  It seems like this is a cumulative total. Is there a way to restrict the report to just a single day to identify the 503 errors that occur on a particular day? Maybe analyzing on a day basis might shed some clues as to what's going on.

  
  Samir. There really is no need for that. But thanks.

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  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  Andy wrote: »

  Samir. There really is no need for that. But thanks.

  Okay, but I'm really curious now as to why Google is hitting 503s. I mean if it was a 302 I'd understand, but a 503 is pretty serious. Does googlebot hit SM's servers that hard?

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

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  Seems once again that i am being called a liar , defination of culmative ........."Increasing or enlarging by successive addition" this is exactly what is happening due to the FACT that some search engines are not able to get info as to my site from the SM server , this is in black and white on my Google webmasters page !! i did not put it there , Google did !
  
  This from Googles own pages
  10.5.4 503 Service Unavailable
  
  The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. If known, the length of the delay MAY be indicated in a Retry-After header. If no Retry-After is given, the client SHOULD handle the response as it would for a 500 response.
  Note: The existence of the 503 status code does not imply that a server must use it when becoming overloaded. Some servers may wish to simply refuse the connection.
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  And the 500 response reads
  
  10.5.1 500 Internal Server Error
  
  The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.
  
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  So dont come on and try to blame me for any 503 errors Joe

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

  So dont come on and try to blame me for any 503 errors Joe

  
  Google's definition of 503 error is exactly correct. I'm also trying to find where anyone is blaming you, Joe?

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  SamirD wrote: »

  Does googlebot hit SM's servers that hard?

  They can. And when they do it so hard, it's harder for us to serve up your bajillion car pics
  
  SmugMug Ops is closely monitoring all of this and is doing things to all Google to have its way with us when it wants to, without so much fuss and bother. Stay tuned.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  503 errors
  Thank you Andy for your response and help , SM as a photo site is better than the rest , but the 503 errors is the thing that is stopping me from starting to try and sell the photos on my site , hopefully SMs tech people will sort this out along with the sitemap probs which appear frequently
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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

  Thank you Andy for your response and help , SM as a photo site is better than the rest , but the 503 errors is the thing that is stopping me from starting to try and sell the photos on my site , hopefully SMs tech people will sort this out along with the sitemap probs which appear frequently
  Regards JOE

  Joe, how is it that 503 errors are preventing sales? Your photos are being indexed and your photos are being found on Google. I have explained several times that we (SmugMug) aren't going to let Googlebot run crazy on our site and thus affect performance.... so we throttle Googlebot and do other things as well that I will not go into.
  
  I fear that you are not reading my posts here at all. Joe - go do some marketing, blogging, Social Media, newsletter, speak at an arts club, work with other sites to get your site linked, take some photos There's plenty for you to do.

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  Niphotos Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

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  Thanks for your advice as to how to run my life Andy , but i think i will be the one to decide what i do and what i don,'t on a day to day basis , it's what i call personal freedom ............. JOE

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  Andy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  Niphotos wrote: »

  Thanks for your advice as to how to run my life Andy , but i think i will be the one to decide what i do and what i don,'t on a day to day basis , it's what i call personal freedom ............. JOE

  
  Joe, it was some business suggestions, that's all. I'm a working pro just like you. Not trying to tell you how to run your life
  
  I also seriously wonder why you think that these errors on your webmaster page are keeping you from selling your photos.

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  SamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins

  January 27, 2012 edited January 27, 2012

  Andy wrote: »

  They can. And when they do it so hard, it's harder for us to serve up your bajillion car pics
  
  SmugMug Ops is closely monitoring all of this and is doing things to all Google to have its way with us when it wants to, without so much fuss and bother. Stay tuned.

  I only thought I had half a bajillion uploaded.
  
  I've seen them do the same on my site, so I can imagine how bad that can be at SM. Once every few years, about 10x as many as normal slam my site, a lot of times when Google has changed their algorithms. It makes sense to throttle them back.
  
  Is there a "a Retry-After header" (http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html) being used? If not, setting that for 12 or 24hrs might ward off Google treating these as 500s, which it seems like its doing, right in line with the rfc spec.

  Andy wrote: »

  I also seriously wonder why you think that these errors on your webmaster page are keeping you from selling your photos.

  I think I have an idea, but correct me if I'm wrong Joe. In my case, before I turn on my SM site to google, I want to make sure that the thousands of hours spent properly keywording and doing seo friendly work will pay off. There's nothing more frustrating than to work on something and then it not pay off. :cry
  
  Thank you for staying patient with us Andy. I think we're all on the same page--just wanting SM to be its best!

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