Recent photo not picked up if updated

rustyblades · October 5, 2013

I just noticed this behaviour yesterday. If you upload a new photo and then after examining the upload, decide to make a change and replace the recently uploaded image with a new version, the new version will not be picked up by recent photos even though the original load date is newer than some of the photos on the list.

Workaround is to delete the the original uploaded image and upload the new version as a new image. But this can screw up sort order, captions etc.

Paul
http://paultavares.smugmug.com/

WinsomeWorks · October 7, 2013

rustyblades wrote: »

I just noticed this behaviour yesterday. If you upload a new photo and then after examining the upload, decide to make a change and replace the recently uploaded image with a new version, the new version will not be picked up by recent photos even though the original load date is newer than some of the photos on the list.

Workaround is to delete the the original uploaded image and upload the new version as a new image. But this can screw up sort order, captions etc.

Paul
http://paultavares.smugmug.com/

What SmugMug really

needs for Recent Photos (it needed this in Legacy as well) is the ability to define the parameters of "Recent". For myself, I would rather if Recent Photos only showed truly new uploads (although you'd think that would default to include replacement uploads as well). In other words, I don't have a need for "Recent" to show my replacements. But I'd certainly be happy to live with that behavior, especially in exchange for "Recent" to stop showing current images that I've simply cropped or done color effect on, or moved! (That's what happens now & it seems very ridiculous to me). But anyway, I believe there may already be a Feature Request for Recent Photos to have site-owner-defined behavior.

phaserbeam · October 7, 2013

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

But I'd certainly be happy to live with that behavior, especially in exchange for "Recent" to stop showing current images that I've simply cropped or done color effect on, or moved!

Do you still have that problem? I remember that i had that also long time ago and your comment just brought this thing back to me so i just made some tests.

I cropped an image, i changed some keywords and then uploaded a new photo. The modified photos do not appear on my recent photos but the latest uploads do so.

Just a guess that this odd behavior has been fixed, at least i can not reproduce this at the moment.

rustyblades · October 7, 2013

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

What SmugMug really needs for Recent Photos (it needed this in Legacy as well) is the ability to define the parameters of "Recent". For myself, I would rather if Recent Photos only showed truly new uploads (although you'd think that would default to include replacement uploads as well). In other words, I don't have a need for "Recent" to show my replacements. But I'd certainly be happy to live with that behavior, especially in exchange for "Recent" to stop showing current images that I've simply cropped or done color effect on, or moved! (That's what happens now & it seems very ridiculous to me). But anyway, I believe there may already be a Feature Request for Recent Photos to have site-owner-defined behavior.

I haven't had the problem of replacement photos showing as recent photos in quite a while. This was the case for a couple of weeks at the beginning of August but I haven't noticed it since.

Paul
http://paultavares.smugmug.com/

WinsomeWorks · October 7, 2013

rustyblades wrote: »

I haven't had the problem of replacement photos showing as recent photos in quite a while. This was the case for a couple of weeks at the beginning of August but I haven't noticed it since.

Paul
http://paultavares.smugmug.com/

I'm very confused. Your post #1 in this thread was from just a few days ago... October 5... and you were saying you wanted replacement photos to show as "Recent". But they weren't showing as "Recent" when you posted. And now they still aren't? But what behavior are you actually wanting. This post today sounds like you didn't want replacements showing as recent?

rustyblades · October 7, 2013

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

I'm very confused. Your post #1 in this thread was from just a few days ago... October 5... and you were saying you wanted replacement photos to show as "Recent". But they weren't showing as "Recent" when you posted. And now they still aren't? But what behavior are you actually wanting. This post today sounds like you didn't want replacements showing as recent?

Sorry for the confusion. I don't want updated photos to show up as recent. The situation I was describing is this one,

1. I loaded a new photo. It should show up in recent.
2. As soon as it finished processing, I looked at it and decided it looked slightly over exposed.
3. I adjusted the exposure and replaced the original image. This is less than ten minutes after the initial upload.
4. The replaced image did not show up as a recent photo, although others uploaded at around the same time did.
5. I'm not sure if this is the desired behaviour. Obviously if the initial upload is days or weeks ago then yes it should not show up. If the initial upload date is newer than the last image on the recent list then it should display, even if replaced.

What is puzzling is that the photo showed up in the recent photos the next day.

I was trying to point out that replacing an image shortly after upload may keep it off the recent list but I'm not so sure now as the photo showed up the next day. Perhaps it was a lag in populating the list. I also noticed that the recent photos list was somewhat scrambled on Sunday with lots of missing photos but seems to be back to normal today. I limit the number of displayed images to 26 so it's pretty easy for me to notice funny behaviour, although that is not the reason for keeping the list short.

Anyway this may have just been an aberration.

thanks
Paul

WinsomeWorks · October 7, 2013

rustyblades wrote: »

Sorry for the confusion. I don't want updated photos to show up as recent. The situation I was describing is this one,

1. I loaded a new photo. It should show up in recent.
2. As soon as it finished processing, I looked at it and decided it looked slightly over exposed.
3. I adjusted the exposure and replaced the original image. This is less than ten minutes after the initial upload.
4. The replaced image did not show up as a recent photo, although others uploaded at around the same time did.
5. I'm not sure if this is the desired behaviour. Obviously if the initial upload is days or weeks ago then yes it should not show up. If the initial upload date is newer than the last image on the recent list then it should display, even if replaced.

What is puzzling is that the photo showed up in the recent photos the next day.

I was trying to point out that replacing an image shortly after upload may keep it off the recent list but I'm not so sure now as the photo showed up the next day. Perhaps it was a lag in populating the list. I also noticed that the recent photos list was somewhat scrambled on Sunday with lots of missing photos but seems to be back to normal today. I limit the number of displayed images to 26 so it's pretty easy for me to notice funny behaviour, although that is not the reason for keeping the list short.

Anyway this may have just been an aberration.

thanks
Paul

Ahh... Ok, I think I get it, but do you mean you're replacing the image by actually using that SmugMug tool (under "tools > single photo" in Legacy) called "Replace Image"? or through an uploading process, such as through Lightroom? And yes, I saw several other people's reports about slow populating to Recent Photos over the weekend, so that's probably why it didn't & then did show up. [ETA-- ahh, I see what you mean about how it should show up either way, even if replaced, when replaced that quickly & newer than other stuff that shows. Yeah, it should. Although there are other funky things that happen like that when you "fix" them "too quickly" for the system... I put that in quotes because who ever knows what's "too quickly"?]

rustyblades · October 7, 2013

WinsomeWorks wrote: »

Ahh... Ok, I think I get it, but do you mean you're replacing the image by actually using that SmugMug tool (under "tools > single ]

I use the SM Upload tool and the option to replace duplicates. The only downside is you lose the title and it has to be re-entered. But that's a known issue and it should be fixed shortly. I never noticed the replace under the tools. I'll have to try it next time. Thanks for that.

mbonocore · October 8, 2013

I will have the QA gods test this out.

rustyblades · October 9, 2013

rustyblades wrote: »

I use the SM Upload tool and the option to replace duplicates. The only downside is you lose the title and it has to be re-entered. But that's a known issue and it should be fixed shortly. I never noticed the replace under the tools. I'll have to try it next time. Thanks for that.

Winsome

Thanks for pointing out the replace option under the tools. It's works well for replacing photos with a file of a different name (unable to rename files in SM). Keeps them off the recent photos list and preserves links. I have quite a few files to rename and this will help.

WinsomeWorks · October 9, 2013

rustyblades wrote: »

Winsome

Thanks for pointing out the replace option under the tools. It's works well for replacing photos with a file of a different name (unable to rename files in SM). Keeps them off the recent photos list and preserves links. I have quite a few files to rename and this will help.

No prob, Paul-- glad I'm useful for somethin' around here. :-l Yeah, you've found the precise reason why using that "Replace" tool can be so useful-- for preserving links. I was thinking there was one part of the file that hasn't been "preserving" lately, such as either titles or keywords or something. But maybe the issue I'm thinking of is with the method you had been using earlier, while uploading. If you do lots of linking to your galleries or whatever though, it sure is nice to be able to preserve the link. And yeah, changed filenames...

Recent photo not picked up if updated

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