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The Backprinting Thread (Tips, and Questions)

AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
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SmugMug Help - Backprinting

OK One tip is, how to enter the © symbol on with your keyboard? It's very simple:

PC: Hit Alt+0169
MAC: Option-G

Voila!

Another tip, from AnneMcBean
AnneMcBean wrote:
If you want to do backprinting differently for a gallery, run it through the cool preview and keyword features in the control panel backprinting first. That way you know exactly what to expect when you plug it into the customize gallery backprinting.
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    JBurtJBurt Registered Users Posts: 175 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    OK One tip is, how to enter the © symbol on with your keyboard? It's very simple:

    PC: Hit Alt+0169

    Voila!

    Sorry Andy, I couldn't get it to work.

    Another question: The backprinting window is blank in the individual galleries. Is that just for customizing that gallery or did my control panel blurb not take?
    Tis sometimes better to be a big fish in a small pond than to be shark bait.

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    limbiklimbik Registered Users Posts: 379 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2006
    On PC: Accessories > Character Map select the © "copy" then Ctrl-V to paste.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2006
    JBurt wrote:
    Sorry Andy, I couldn't get it to work.

    Another question: The backprinting window is blank in the individual galleries. Is that just for customizing that gallery or did my control panel blurb not take?

    ALT 0169 do not use the + key

    The gallery backprinting will override anything in your control panel, for that gallery.
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    technocrafttechnocraft Registered Users Posts: 108 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2006
    Wow. Awesome. About Time. ;)

    I see that you've released a bunch of stuff - I'll have to take my time opening my presents...
    -Tony
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    (technocraft.smugmug.com)
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    JBurtJBurt Registered Users Posts: 175 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2006
    Thanks guys much appreciated.

    Of course, you know you ruined the first mild Saturday in a couple weeks. I coulda been out playing in the sun. 1drink.gif It didn't even hit 100 here today.
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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    multiple lines?
    First off, I love this feature.

    Is there a way to have multiple lines on the backprinting or does everything end up as a single line? Just curious how much I can cram on there...

    Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    dogwood wrote:
    First off, I love this feature.

    Is there a way to have multiple lines on the backprinting or does everything end up as a single line? Just curious how much I can cram on there...

    One line. 40 characters.
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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    thanks
    Andy wrote:
    One line. 40 characters.
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    ScalaScala Registered Users Posts: 95 Big grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    Umm, do the prints for standard or power users contain any backprinting? The filename or imageID would be useful someone wants to order more? I can't find any prints I ordered through Smugmug right now so I though I'd ask.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    Scala wrote:
    Umm, do the prints for standard or power users contain any backprinting? The filename or imageID would be useful someone wants to order more? I can't find any prints I ordered through Smugmug right now so I though I'd ask.
    Nothing customizable, only some control numbers from the lab.
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    onethumbonethumb Administrators Posts: 1,269 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    OK One tip is, how to enter the © symbol on with your keyboard? It's very simple:

    PC: Hit Alt+0169

    What he meant to say was "Hold down the ALT key and press 0169". :)

    Don
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2006
    onethumb wrote:
    What he meant to say was "Hold down the ALT key and press 0169". :)

    Don
    PC user 22 years, amazing how fast I forgot Heh.
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    JBurtJBurt Registered Users Posts: 175 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2006
    onethumb wrote:
    What he meant to say was "Hold down the ALT key and press 0169". :)

    Don
    Yeah I know. That's what I was doing. Didn't woik for some reason. The Character Map (which I had forgotten about. 11doh.gif Hmm maybe I need to add more memory) worked just fine. thumb.gif
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    flyingdutchieflyingdutchie Registered Users Posts: 1,286 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2006
    onethumb wrote:
    What he meant to say was "Hold down the ALT key and press 0169". :)

    Don

    And remember, it works only with the numbers on the key-pad!!

    - Press the ALT key and hold it down.
    - Then press the 0 on the key-pad/num-pad.
    - the 1,
    - the 6,
    - the 9,
    - and release the ALT key.
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    rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2006
    Html-codes are filtered from captions/gallery descriptions when using one of the variables, are they?
    Is there any possibility for the siteowner to check the backprint for specific pictures in the cart before shipping an order? I would like to see if my used variables give me the result I expect.

    How about giving us the option to create user defined variables with our own content (filtering other variables using regular expressions)?

    Thanks,
    Sebastian
    Sebastian
    SmugMug Support Hero
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    TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2006
    I have a suggestion:

    Can we get a SMUGYEARTAKEN in addition to the SMUGDATETAKEN? I think it would be useful for some to have the {© "year" www.domainname.com} as a copyright notice.
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    flyingdutchieflyingdutchie Registered Users Posts: 1,286 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2006
    TristanP wrote:
    I have a suggestion:

    Can we get a SMUGYEARTAKEN in addition to the SMUGDATETAKEN? I think it would be useful for some to have the {© "year" www.domainname.com} as a copyright notice.

    I was looking for this one too. For now, i hard-'coded' the year, but your suggestion would be very handy. :D
    I can't grasp the notion of time.

    When I hear the earth will melt into the sun,
    in two billion years,
    all I can think is:
        "Will that be on a Monday?"
    ==========================
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    http://blog.antonspaans.com
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    claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2006
    TristanP wrote:
    I have a suggestion:

    Can we get a SMUGYEARTAKEN in addition to the SMUGDATETAKEN? I think it would be useful for some to have the {© "year" www.domainname.com} as a copyright notice.

    Another request for that.
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    SamirDSamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins
    edited August 10, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    OK One tip is, how to enter the © symbol on with your keyboard?
    I just cheated and highlighted the symbol above and then copy and pasted. rolleyes1.gif No ALT key sequences for me! (Yes, PC user for almost 20 years and I forgot how to do them too.) rolleyes1.gif
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    CindyCindy Registered Users Posts: 542 Major grins
    edited August 17, 2006
    Control panel &/or gallery level backprinting
    Just to make sure...
    If I fill in the backprinting area in my control panel than ALL prints will be backprinted no matter what... even if I leave the gallery level blank where it requests what we want on the back???
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    devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited August 17, 2006
    Cindy wrote:
    Just to make sure...
    If I fill in the backprinting area in my control panel than ALL prints will be backprinted no matter what... even if I leave the gallery level blank where it requests what we want on the back???

    Hi Cindy,

    I am pretty certain that if you set the backprinting up in the control panel that it will be applied to all photos sitewide. The options at the gallery level allow you to override the site wide settings for a specific gallery.

    Cheers,

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 17, 2006
    devbobo wrote:
    Hi Cindy,

    I am pretty certain that if you set the backprinting up in the control panel that it will be applied to all photos sitewide. The options at the gallery level allow you to override the site wide settings for a specific gallery.

    Cheers,

    David


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    CindyCindy Registered Users Posts: 542 Major grins
    edited August 17, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    nod.gif

    Thanks for confirming guys thumb.gif
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    SteveMSteveM Registered Users Posts: 482 Major grins
    edited August 18, 2006
    Copyright symbol
    Just a side note on the alt-0169 © symbol. The actual backprinting prints the copyright symbol as (c), not the actual symbol, which was trivially (is that a word?) a little disappointing to me. This also makes me wonder, if I use the alt code, then use the remaining 39 characters of text space, would the last two characters be cut off, as the printhouse needs three characters to represent the alt code? Hmm! I also understand from a customer that the print is really tiny for both our backprinting and the EZprints #.

    Still, it's great progress!

    Steve
    www.downriverphotography.com
    Steve Mills
    BizDev Account Manager
    Image Specialist & Pro Concierge

    http://www.downriverphotography.com
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 18, 2006
    SteveM wrote:
    Just a side note on the alt-0169 © symbol. The actual backprinting prints the copyright symbol as (c), not the actual symbol, which was trivially (is that a word?) a little disappointing to me. This also makes me wonder, if I use the alt code, then use the remaining 39 characters of text space, would the last two characters be cut off, as the printhouse needs three characters to represent the alt code? Hmm! I also understand from a customer that the print is really tiny for both our backprinting and the EZprints #.

    Still, it's great progress!

    Steve
    www.downriverphotography.com

    Thanks Steve, we're looking into that (c) thing.
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    claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited August 21, 2006
    That's important. I've read that some places don't recognize the (c) in place of the real symbol.
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    pat.kanepat.kane Registered Users Posts: 332 Major grins
    edited August 21, 2006
    Chris, as far as I can tell, "(c)" provides no legal protection. What is legal? Here's the info from my post on 29 Jul at http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=39204

    Is the copyright symbol going to print (it shows up in the preview)? If so, is it legible?

    I'd really like to place a valid copyright notice on the back of my images.

    Ref: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.html

    The copyright notice must contain three elements:

    1. The symbol © (the letter C in a circle), or the word “Copyright,” or the abbreviation “Copr.”; and

    2. The year of first publication...

    3. The name of the owner of copyright in the work, or an abbreviation by which the name can be recognized, or a generally known alternative designation of the owner.

    Example: © 2004 Jane Doe

    Most people aren't going to know how to enter the "circle C", so I think a new backprint keyword is needed (e.g., (C) or COPR).

    We also need a SMUGYEARTAKEN keyword (the only other date option gives a full date).

    Thanks,
    Pat
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    SamirDSamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins
    edited August 22, 2006
    pat.kane wrote:
    Most people aren't going to know how to enter the "circle C", so I think a new backprint keyword is needed (e.g., (C) or COPR).

    We also need a SMUGYEARTAKEN keyword (the only other date option gives a full date).

    Thanks,
    Pat
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    CindyCindy Registered Users Posts: 542 Major grins
    edited August 22, 2006
    Any news on © vs (c) yet Andy?
    Andy wrote:
    Thanks Steve, we're looking into that (c) thing.

    Any news on this yet Andy?

    Thanks,
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    SamirDSamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins
    edited August 22, 2006
    Cindy wrote:
    Any news on this yet Andy?

    Thanks,
    He's probably sleeping right now. It's pretty late for the eastern half of the US to be up. :uhoh
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