For at least the last two or three months I have found that my galleries are extremely slow to load. Are your servers overtaxed, or do I just have too many pictures stored there?
For at least the last two or three months I have found that my galleries are extremely slow to load. Are your servers overtaxed, or do I just have too many pictures stored there?
Hi, thanks for posting. It's a great question.
Short answer: No. We are constantly bringing new hardware online, investing huge amounts of money in our datacenters and infrastructure. More on that is here:
User experiences can depend on lots of factors. And it sounds like you are having troubles, and we'd like to help. SmugMug hasn't been slow for months, but your site is, for you.
Can we start by doing this: http://smugmug.speedtest.net and click on the yellow pyramid. Share the result with us? Oh and if you could post your site please, that would help. Put it in your Profile, too (You! upper left, Dgrin screen). Thanks!
Short answer: No. We are constantly bringing new hardware online, investing huge amounts of money in our datacenters and infrastructure. More on that is here:
User experiences can depend on lots of factors. And it sounds like you are having troubles, and we'd like to help. SmugMug hasn't been slow for months, but your site is, for you.
Can we start by doing this: http://smugmug.speedtest.net and click on the yellow pyramid. Share the result with us? Oh and if you could post your site please, that would help. Put it in your Profile, too (You! upper left, Dgrin screen). Thanks!
I'm on the east coast and have no basis upon which to judge. Are these good, middle of the road, or poor? Just curious.
ASSUMING that the "last mile" for your link is the bottleneck (it is for a lot of people). That would appear to be a 5 meg cable modem connection, with a 2 meg uplink. The top of the line cable modem connections are 10 meg, and a fairly rare and expensive in most places. 5M connections are not even available everywhere, so they're "pretty good". It's not at all uncommon for a cable connection to have a roughly 10:1 down:up ration, so that 5M down should have 512K up, but you have 3.5 times that... so in terms of your up/down balance you're doing very very good.
For contrast, I'm on the biggest cable connection available in town without a custom negotiated contract, I have a similar 5M down that you have, and I have what locally is considered a rather large uplink (it's not a normal consumer account, it's a business account) at 1M, but you're almost double my uplink speed.
To smugmug's servers, I got the other day 4933 kbps down and 957 kbps up.
(and to wrap this post back to jthomas' original question... his site loads just as fast as any other smugmug site for me... in other words, "don't blink, you'll miss it loading.")
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Verizon DSL 1412 down and paltry 113 up. Paltry... Makes uploading to smugmug a nightmare and smugmug typically gives me errors or locks up. This was fast back in 2001, not 2007.
with a friends Verizon FIOS in New York I get
7000 down 1700 up
smooth upload no problems.
Why they don't have FIOS in the city yet I'll never understand, but I have Verizon's numbers on my cell and they will be hearing from me tomorrow.
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Why they don't have FIOS in the city yet I'll never understand
Maybe because it's *insanely* expensive to deploy? About the only markets that they've rolled it out in are the ones where they are under very heavy competition.
but i am experiencing really really slow smugmug tonight. just tonight. normally it is pretty speedy. tonight it is taking minutes to load a website. some eventually times out.
.... but i am experiencing really really slow smugmug tonight. just tonight. normally it is pretty speedy. tonight it is taking minutes to load a website. some eventually times out.
My ISP's help desk has a recorded message explaining that connections with the US are presently affected by a 'broken cable in the USA'.
Currently we have space in two datacenters in San Jose, CA. I've seen Comcast route me through LA before popping me over to stuff 17 miles away. *grumble* Before I left town last night, I ran a test and got around ~5000 down and ~950 up with ~46ms on a Comcast Business line (10Mdown/1Mup). Fat pipes down the street don't always yield optimal results
If things have felt slow over the last couple of days, we've had database hardware issues that caused us to run some extra hot backups of our master database. That'll slow things a tad, which can easily be amplified with any net-turbulence out there. It looks like the last one we ran is done right now, though. We should be screamin' right now from a systems standpoint.
If things have felt slow over the last few months, I'd certainly like to see a traceroute to see where you are coming from. We've continuously added new batches of servers, bigger routers, load balancers, etc., that have pushed our capacity way way above what we actually need. We're up to 6 gigabit links to the internet, and we're going to add another in the next few days. We did drop some providers, but I doubt that you'd see that big of a difference in speed.
Sorry, I forgot to check "Instant e-mail notification" on my first post, so I didn't realize that there had been responses to my original post. I got disgusted last night trying to upload one picture to my smugmug site (it timed out), so I turned the computer off and went to bed.
I'm trying the speed test now. The "ping" time was 102ms, the download speed was 50 kbs, and it seems to have hung on the upload test - no response for about 5 minutes now. I'll report when I get it.
My ISP is Adelphia Cable, currently being taken over by Comcast. Therein may lie the problem.
I usually have no problem with the Digital Grin. Response is very snappy. It's just my Smugmug site.
Where in VA are you? That is really terrible speed for any type of broadband connection. Can you post a traceroute for us?
Also try a speedtest to the Washington DC pyramid, i'm interested to see the results.
I'm about 4 miles from Blacksburg, high-tech capital of SW VA. When I do the speed test to DC, it shows the origination point (on their map) in California!
My traceroute to Smugmug.com [68.81.134.23] nets nothing but "Request timed out". I saved a screenshot of the output and tried to upload it to my Smugmug gallery to display here, but the upload timed out (only a 94kb file).
My traceroute to Smugmug.com [68.81.134.23] nets nothing but "Request timed out". I saved a screenshot of the output and tried to upload it to my Smugmug gallery to display here, but the upload timed out (only a 94kb file).
Something is badly broken.
Sounds like your firewall or NAT are blocking traceroutes. If you're using a Mac, you can do "traceroute -I" to get around it, likely.
Otherwise you'll have to tell your firewall/NAT to allow things like traceroute & ICMP.
I tried traceroute on another computer in the household, and it does run o.k., but again I can't upload the screenshot to display it here.
I don't know what's blocking traceroute on this machine. It is a new (November 06) Dell XPS 410 running WinXP. It may be some software preloaded by Dell which is causing the problem.
Maybe because it's *insanely* expensive to deploy? About the only markets that they've rolled it out in are the ones where they are under very heavy competition.
Yah partly, but customers in Manhattan would suck up the extra cost for it anyway. I asked a fiber guy when they were installing it nearby in Queens and he said it's partly because they haven't figured out an easy way to wire the fiber under the streets and through all the 10+ story buildings. Plus all the electric and phone cables go underground in Manhattan.
They have it in Westchester and Queens. Where I work in White Plains, for example, I stopped by a friends house to upload some of my pics while I was on lunch break... I can get up 50 pics in half an hour but on my home DSL it took 3:30 for the same pics.
Considering I know Verizon in Manhattan is trying to go high speed Wi-Fi even in subways soon I'm trying to be patient...
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I'm about 4 miles from Blacksburg, high-tech capital of SW VA. When I do the speed test to DC, it shows the origination point (on their map) in California!
At any rate, here are the results to DC:
It sounds to me like Adelphia sucks as much as it did when I was at Tech.
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Short answer: No. We are constantly bringing new hardware online, investing huge amounts of money in our datacenters and infrastructure. More on that is here:
http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2006/08/28/take-a-peek-inside-our-datacenters/
http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2006/11/04/amazon-two-guys-in-a-dorm-0-the-next-youtube/
User experiences can depend on lots of factors. And it sounds like you are having troubles, and we'd like to help. SmugMug hasn't been slow for months, but your site is, for you.
Can we start by doing this: http://smugmug.speedtest.net and click on the yellow pyramid. Share the result with us? Oh and if you could post your site please, that would help. Put it in your Profile, too (You! upper left, Dgrin screen). Thanks!
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Just for grins and because I can, ran this test just a moment ago and got the following:
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Ping: 108ms
Download: 4914 kbps
Upload: 1750 kbps
I'm on the east coast and have no basis upon which to judge. Are these good, middle of the road, or poor? Just curious.
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Well my DSL rated at 462k and upload at 120k. Not the best but I gues could be worse.
Now I know why my wedding album uploads are terrible. I think I need to move.
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ASSUMING that the "last mile" for your link is the bottleneck (it is for a lot of people). That would appear to be a 5 meg cable modem connection, with a 2 meg uplink. The top of the line cable modem connections are 10 meg, and a fairly rare and expensive in most places. 5M connections are not even available everywhere, so they're "pretty good". It's not at all uncommon for a cable connection to have a roughly 10:1 down:up ration, so that 5M down should have 512K up, but you have 3.5 times that... so in terms of your up/down balance you're doing very very good.
For contrast, I'm on the biggest cable connection available in town without a custom negotiated contract, I have a similar 5M down that you have, and I have what locally is considered a rather large uplink (it's not a normal consumer account, it's a business account) at 1M, but you're almost double my uplink speed.
To smugmug's servers, I got the other day 4933 kbps down and 957 kbps up.
(and to wrap this post back to jthomas' original question... his site loads just as fast as any other smugmug site for me... in other words, "don't blink, you'll miss it loading.")
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with a friends Verizon FIOS in New York I get
7000 down 1700 up
smooth upload no problems.
Why they don't have FIOS in the city yet I'll never understand, but I have Verizon's numbers on my cell and they will be hearing from me tomorrow.
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My upload/download speed is 1316/209...not too bad since my adsl connection is 1500/256.
I seriously hanging out for my local telephone exchange to get upgraded to adsl2+ in march... 24,000/1000 will be very very sweet
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I guess that's pretty good?
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Maybe because it's *insanely* expensive to deploy? About the only markets that they've rolled it out in are the ones where they are under very heavy competition.
http://wall-art.smugmug.com/
but i am experiencing really really slow smugmug tonight. just tonight. normally it is pretty speedy. tonight it is taking minutes to load a website. some eventually times out.
interesting. i thought the smugmug have servers in San Jose. i live in Santa Clara which is just a few miles from San Jose.
If things have felt slow over the last couple of days, we've had database hardware issues that caused us to run some extra hot backups of our master database. That'll slow things a tad, which can easily be amplified with any net-turbulence out there. It looks like the last one we ran is done right now, though. We should be screamin' right now from a systems standpoint.
If things have felt slow over the last few months, I'd certainly like to see a traceroute to see where you are coming from. We've continuously added new batches of servers, bigger routers, load balancers, etc., that have pushed our capacity way way above what we actually need. We're up to 6 gigabit links to the internet, and we're going to add another in the next few days. We did drop some providers, but I doubt that you'd see that big of a difference in speed.
I'm trying the speed test now. The "ping" time was 102ms, the download speed was 50 kbs, and it seems to have hung on the upload test - no response for about 5 minutes now. I'll report when I get it.
My ISP is Adelphia Cable, currently being taken over by Comcast. Therein may lie the problem.
I usually have no problem with the Digital Grin. Response is very snappy. It's just my Smugmug site.
Most other web sites I visit work fine; it's just my Smugmug site that is slow.
I don't know how it gets the distance, but we all know it's a lot more than 350 mi from VA to CA.
Also try a speedtest to the Washington DC pyramid, i'm interested to see the results.
FWIW, i'm in Gainesville on Comcast and my speeds are fine to smugmug
It must be something going on with your connection since this speed test has nothing to do with Smugmug itself.
At any rate, here are the results to DC:
Something is badly broken.
Sounds like your firewall or NAT are blocking traceroutes. If you're using a Mac, you can do "traceroute -I" to get around it, likely.
Otherwise you'll have to tell your firewall/NAT to allow things like traceroute & ICMP.
Don
NAT => ???? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.
I don't know what's blocking traceroute on this machine. It is a new (November 06) Dell XPS 410 running WinXP. It may be some software preloaded by Dell which is causing the problem.
Maybe the problem was on this end. I'll see if it lasts.
Yah partly, but customers in Manhattan would suck up the extra cost for it anyway. I asked a fiber guy when they were installing it nearby in Queens and he said it's partly because they haven't figured out an easy way to wire the fiber under the streets and through all the 10+ story buildings. Plus all the electric and phone cables go underground in Manhattan.
They have it in Westchester and Queens. Where I work in White Plains, for example, I stopped by a friends house to upload some of my pics while I was on lunch break... I can get up 50 pics in half an hour but on my home DSL it took 3:30 for the same pics.
Considering I know Verizon in Manhattan is trying to go high speed Wi-Fi even in subways soon I'm trying to be patient...
dak.smugmug.com
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Can you copy/paste the text to us here in dgrin, instead of a picture?
http://wall-art.smugmug.com/
Please note my post # 26 above. My problem may be solved.