Those are shots with the D1h that I got used, along with the used lenses I got, these shots are with the 20mm.
d1h $249
zooms
18-70mm $180
70-300 $200
primes
20mm $229
50mm $ 80
85mm $225
180mm $379
Total: $1542 <-- a couple of the lenses can even be found cheaper than what I paid, but that will give you a really good running start on lenses while you play, if you're willing to get used instead of brand new. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" >
Have you gone in the camera store (not a big box place) and actually held cameras from each brand in your hands yet and run through the menus?
I've made the order
I just put an order in with B&H. With all of your input, here's what I decided on:
Canon 40d
Canon 50 mm f/1.8
Tamron 28-75 mm f/2.8
2 UV filters
4 Gig flash card
Total = $1,665.80 + shipping
Slightly overbudget, but I was able convince my wife that I needed to get the filters and flash card which put me over. "Don't plan on getting any other photography stuff for a very long time," says my wife. Sorry B&H.
Thanks for all of your help. I'll be eager to post some photos with my new camera next week!
Canon 5d mii, Canon 50mm f/1.8, 35mm 1.4L, 70-200mm IS L
Looks good. Tell your wife "I'm" proud of you. Take plenty of pictures of her and, eventually, see if you can turn her into a photographer so she can understand your (both of you) photographic needs.
I just put an order in with B&H. With all of your input, here's what I decided on:
Canon 40d
Canon 50 mm f/1.8
Tamron 28-75 mm f/2.8
2 UV filters
4 Gig flash card
Total = $1,665.80 + shipping
Slightly overbudget, but I was able convince my wife that I needed to get the filters and flash card which put me over. "Don't plan on getting any other photography stuff for a very long time," says my wife. Sorry B&H.
Thanks for all of your help. I'll be eager to post some photos with my new camera next week!
Congrats! I bet you can't wait for the package to arrive
Looking at that list, I fear you'll start wanting for a wide-angle lens, but take your time and practise with what you've got.
And when you decide to go wider, we'll be right here to give you another gaggle of choices
Woo-hoo
Yeahhhh, another Canon user!!!! Lets see those pictures....
Canon 30D & REB XT (thinking of converting to infrared), Sigma 10-20mm, Tammy 17-50mm 2.8, Canon 24-70mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8 IS, Tokina 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 50mm 1.8, Canon 1.4 ext, and Sigma 4.5 fish eye along with a Bogen by Gitzo Tripod, Manfrotto Ball Head, MacBook PRO, several HOYA filters and a 2GB & 8GB San Disk, 160GB Sanho storage device (really cool btw)......wishing for a Canon 100-400mm. :wink
I do believe I have some more 3200, again I haven't uploaded much from my 40D lately. Definitely have more 1600 shots.
This was taken my first day really sitting down with the camera...
handheld live view, 24-70 @ 70mm, f/2.8, 1/50, ISO 3200, high iso NR, straight out the cam jpg.
Even though I can get some good shots out of my XTi above 400, there are a lot of times where I have to run NR and Despeckle in PSE or the results are unacceptable and I have to trash the image.
My XTi is not as reliable regarding grain and red noise above ISO 400 as my 40D is at 1600, that's for sure. In other words, I would not second guess shooting at ISO 1600 on the 40D, but I always second guess going above ISO 400 on my XTi, and I actively try to keep my ISO between 100-400.
Thanks. That looks perfectly fine to me. The settings are about where I'm at with a lot of my shooting--though my subjects are a bit more active. So now I have to ask, what are people talking about with noisy images at that speed on a 40D?
Around the middle of 2005, I started looking at the Rebel XT at Wally world. I would go and check it out every time I went there with the wife, or by myself, etc. Xmas of '05, my wife got the XT with the 18-55 lens kit. I immediately told her that I needed the Telephoto 70-300, and got the lens within a few weeks. I was basically told not to expect any more photo equip for a while.
Fast forward to June of '07: I found out that I had a few firearms that I wasn't using but that other people wanted very badly, and with some judicious overtime at work, was able to buy the 30D and 3 "L" lenses by August. Wife was not overwhelmed, but I think she understood. She now loves to look at the pictures I take.
Moral of the story: keep taking the pictures, learn the camera and lenses, check on an inexpensive telephoto for the time being, and then a few years down the road, you can probably get the glass and camera you want, based on your own experience. I ain't saying it will be easy, but an addiction like this one requires patience at times!
So now I have to ask, what are people talking about with noisy images at that speed on a 40D?
I've gotten some grainy images, but red noise is mostly absent. Now if you get an image where you have to adjust by raising exposure, you may get more red noise and grain. So get it right in camera. Sorry I haven't had a chance to go through the images.
Canon 40D : Canon 400D : Canon Elan 7NE : Canon 580EX : 2 x Canon 430EX : Canon 24-70 f2.8L : Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L USM : Canon 28-135mm f/3.5 IS : 18-55mm f/3.5 : 4GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2GB Sandisk Extreme III : 2 x 1GB Sandisk Ultra II : Sekonik L358
Yeahhhh, another Canon user!!!! Lets see those pictures....
I must say... I feel strangely guilty about going Canon after having a Nikon mindset for so long. I feel like I need to apologize to the Nikon people here. I still love my Nikon friends at the newspapers! Is it possible to sit on both sides of the fence in this debate?
Canon 5d mii, Canon 50mm f/1.8, 35mm 1.4L, 70-200mm IS L
Nikon D200
Why not consider the D200. It is inexpensive these days, weather sealed, produces great images, etc...Read the reviews. As far as lenses, you can get a third party lense, such as Tokina 28-80/2.8 and the wide angle 14-18/4.0. I own a D200 w/a wide assortment of nikon lenses and a few Tokinas. Just my take...Good luck
I'm a newbie around here and I apologize if this question has been answered somewhere else.
My wife says that I can spend $1,500 on a camera and lens(s) when we get our tax return. I'm looking hard at the Nikon d80 and the Canon 40d. Do I get the Nikon d80, a cheaper body and spend more money on the lens(s); or do I spring for the Canon 40d with a lens kit, and buy a good lens next year?
We have a 4 month old baby, so I'll be shooting portraits. But I also like shooting landscapes and outdoor photography. What do you think?
(I made a pitch for the Nikon d300. That's when she started throwing things.)
I must say... I feel strangely guilty about going Canon after having a Nikon mindset for so long. I feel like I need to apologize to the Nikon people here. I still love my Nikon friends at the newspapers! Is it possible to sit on both sides of the fence in this debate?
Sure you can, just get yourself into the mindset that they are tools, not religious convictions. It's all about perspective. Heck, I shoot Canon & my sister shoots Nikon--we're both happy with our choices & get good results. The only downside is we cannot share gear other than system-independant accessories.
I must say... I feel strangely guilty about going Canon after having a Nikon mindset for so long. I feel like I need to apologize to the Nikon people here. I still love my Nikon friends at the newspapers! Is it possible to sit on both sides of the fence in this debate?
I am a Canon shooter, my father is Nikon and one of my best friends is Pentax. I honestly think I could be happy with any modern dSLR from any manufacturer.
I see many more similarities than differences in the quality from most dSLRs. Starting with 5MP imagers, quality at 8x10 (A4) is consistently good with almost any subject. Some subjects hold up to a much greater magnification. ISOs to 800 are almost indistinguishable between cameras and brands.
I remember seeing a magazine advertisement with a 2/3 page image from an Olympus C-2500L and thinking what a landmark that was. (The Olympus C-2500L was a true dSLR with a fixed zoom lens and 2.3 MP resolution. 1999-2000)
The age we live in has never provided a better choice of quality imaging equipment. Make the best purchase decisions you can and then use your equipment to the best of your abilities and you will be rewarded.
I am a Canon shooter, my father is Nikon and one of my best friends is Pentax. I honestly think I could be happy with any modern dSLR from any manufacturer.
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Great images know no brand.
Oh yeah, my grandparents were Pentax shooters (so now my cousin is, having been the one to inherit all the gear). My closet holds gear from Canon, Nikon, Mamiya, Minolta (before it was Konica-Minolta or Sony), Olympus, and Casio. Brand fanboy? Who? Me? Nope.<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/mwink.gif" border="0" alt="" > I think there's even a Polaroid & Argus floating around the house somewhere. And I'm looking at Agfa, Zeiss Ikonta, Voightlander, and some LF manufacturers for future expansion. Who cares what name's on the body? So long as it helps make those great images.
Lots of people act as if your only options are Canon or Nikon - the power of saturation marketing, I suppose, and they are good products. But don't overlook the Olympus line. Look at the E-1 system or the E-510 and by all means get yerself informed about the 4/3rds lens system. They're shorter and lighter than standard equivalents and ... unlike when they first came out, these lenses are now affordable. I did a lot of work (for $$) with my first Oly, the E-10 (pre-4/rds system). At 4 mp, when new, it was almost the biggest sensor out there and it did very very good work. I now have an E-500 and three 4/3rds lenses (and a LowePro shoulder bag that holds it all) and am quite happy.:ivar
Finally another Olympus user!!!!! I use the E330 .... I LOVE it! I have 3 zuiko lenses and a bunch of old OM lenses that are super cool with a screw on adapter. LOVE MY OLY.
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Those are shots with the D1h that I got used, along with the used lenses I got, these shots are with the 20mm.
d1h $249
zooms
18-70mm $180
70-300 $200
primes
20mm $229
50mm $ 80
85mm $225
180mm $379
Total: $1542 <-- a couple of the lenses can even be found cheaper than what I paid, but that will give you a really good running start on lenses while you play, if you're willing to get used instead of brand new. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" >
Have you gone in the camera store (not a big box place) and actually held cameras from each brand in your hands yet and run through the menus?
I just put an order in with B&H. With all of your input, here's what I decided on:
- Canon 40d
- Canon 50 mm f/1.8
- Tamron 28-75 mm f/2.8
- 2 UV filters
- 4 Gig flash card
Total = $1,665.80 + shippingSlightly overbudget, but I was able convince my wife that I needed to get the filters and flash card which put me over. "Don't plan on getting any other photography stuff for a very long time," says my wife. Sorry B&H.
Thanks for all of your help. I'll be eager to post some photos with my new camera next week!
email: mark@markleonardimaging.com
Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
Congrats! I bet you can't wait for the package to arrive
Looking at that list, I fear you'll start wanting for a wide-angle lens, but take your time and practise with what you've got.
And when you decide to go wider, we'll be right here to give you another gaggle of choices
http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
Yeahhhh, another Canon user!!!!
Thanks. That looks perfectly fine to me. The settings are about where I'm at with a lot of my shooting--though my subjects are a bit more active.
http://www.chrislaudermilkphoto.com/
Around the middle of 2005, I started looking at the Rebel XT at Wally world. I would go and check it out every time I went there with the wife, or by myself, etc. Xmas of '05, my wife got the XT with the 18-55 lens kit. I immediately told her that I needed the Telephoto 70-300, and got the lens within a few weeks. I was basically told not to expect any more photo equip for a while.
Fast forward to June of '07: I found out that I had a few firearms that I wasn't using but that other people wanted very badly, and with some judicious overtime at work, was able to buy the 30D and 3 "L" lenses by August.
Moral of the story: keep taking the pictures, learn the camera and lenses, check on an inexpensive telephoto for the time being, and then a few years down the road, you can probably get the glass and camera you want, based on your own experience. I ain't saying it will be easy, but an addiction like this one requires patience at times!
I've gotten some grainy images, but red noise is mostly absent. Now if you get an image where you have to adjust by raising exposure, you may get more red noise and grain. So get it right in camera. Sorry I haven't had a chance to go through the images.
dak.smugmug.com
30D
17-85 IS
You would have a couple of bucks left over, and a great starting setup that you will love. Time for fiscal responsibility...PAPA!:D
oops....too late
I must say... I feel strangely guilty about going Canon after having a Nikon mindset for so long. I feel like I need to apologize to the Nikon people here. I still love my Nikon friends at the newspapers! Is it possible to sit on both sides of the fence in this debate?
email: mark@markleonardimaging.com
Just shoot and have fun.
dak.smugmug.com
Why not consider the D200. It is inexpensive these days, weather sealed, produces great images, etc...Read the reviews. As far as lenses, you can get a third party lense, such as Tokina 28-80/2.8 and the wide angle 14-18/4.0. I own a D200 w/a wide assortment of nikon lenses and a few Tokinas. Just my take...Good luck
Dejan
Portfolio: dejansmaic.com
Stock: sportifimages.com
Sure you can, just get yourself into the mindset that they are tools, not religious convictions. It's all about perspective. Heck, I shoot Canon & my sister shoots Nikon--we're both happy with our choices & get good results. The only downside is we cannot share gear other than system-independant accessories.
http://www.chrislaudermilkphoto.com/
I am a Canon shooter, my father is Nikon and one of my best friends is Pentax. I honestly think I could be happy with any modern dSLR from any manufacturer.
I see many more similarities than differences in the quality from most dSLRs. Starting with 5MP imagers, quality at 8x10 (A4) is consistently good with almost any subject. Some subjects hold up to a much greater magnification. ISOs to 800 are almost indistinguishable between cameras and brands.
I remember seeing a magazine advertisement with a 2/3 page image from an Olympus C-2500L and thinking what a landmark that was. (The Olympus C-2500L was a true dSLR with a fixed zoom lens and 2.3 MP resolution. 1999-2000)
The age we live in has never provided a better choice of quality imaging equipment. Make the best purchase decisions you can and then use your equipment to the best of your abilities and you will be rewarded.
Great images know no brand.
Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
Word.
http://pyryekholm.kuvat.fi/
...and I'm totally stoked!
I can't wait to post some photos.
email: mark@markleonardimaging.com
Oh yeah, my grandparents were Pentax shooters (so now my cousin is, having been the one to inherit all the gear). My closet holds gear from Canon, Nikon, Mamiya, Minolta (before it was Konica-Minolta or Sony), Olympus, and Casio. Brand fanboy? Who? Me? Nope.<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/mwink.gif" border="0" alt="" > I think there's even a Polaroid & Argus floating around the house somewhere. And I'm looking at Agfa, Zeiss Ikonta, Voightlander, and some LF manufacturers for future expansion. Who cares what name's on the body? So long as it helps make those great images.
http://www.chrislaudermilkphoto.com/
Finally another Olympus user!!!!! I use the E330 .... I LOVE it! I have 3 zuiko lenses and a bunch of old OM lenses that are super cool with a screw on adapter. LOVE MY OLY.