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This is it... narrowed down to 2 shots for DSS 14 - Feedback please!

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    TentacionTentacion Registered Users Posts: 940 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    I like number 2 and 1, mostly cuz I haven't seen a composition like that entered in the challenges....I like original and different (or as original in photography as we can be, cuz we all know it has been done before...ha ha)

    Like the improvements on the egg shot too....Much BETTA!!

    Good luck in whichever you choose, your gonna need it, I know, I hate decisions, I am still debating on a few shots of my own.

    Peace,
    Donna
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    Pat664422Pat664422 Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    I really like your changes in #1 - seems cleaner as far as the subject and easier for me to see the interesting angle you shot this picture at.

    I think you could go with either it or your egg shot now. The egg shot would probably be considered more artistic though...? Just a guess as I am not that artistic myself (computer geek).
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    Pat664422 wrote:
    I really like your changes in #1 - seems cleaner as far as the subject and easier for me to see the interesting angle you shot this picture at.

    I think you could go with either it or your egg shot now. The egg shot would probably be considered more artistic though...? Just a guess as I am not that artistic myself (computer geek).

    Thanks... I'm very confused. Not sure which shot to use, the egg or the cards???? headscratch.gif
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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    go with your gut....
    Aaron Nelson
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    dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    How can you fold a royal flush rolleyes1.gif
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    dlplumer wrote:
    How can you fold a royal flush rolleyes1.gif

    Laughing.gif... I don't know! Aaron Nelson keeps telling me to go with my gut but I'm not quite sure what my gut is telling me. One minute I'm feeling the egg, next minute I'm really liking the cards. Maybe I can combine the two??? ne_nau.gif

    I like the simplicity of the egg shot. I like the contrast of the shadow and highlights... I also like how the curves of the egg compliment that of the bowl.

    But I like the card shot for all different reasons. I like the bright colors of the chips and the green felt. I aslo like the stark contrast of the black symbols on the white background of the cards. I also like that the bokeh in the image too.

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    dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    Laughing.gif... I don't know! Aaron Nelson keeps telling me to go with my gut but I'm not quite sure what my gut is telling me. One minute I'm feeling the egg, next minute I'm really liking the cards. Maybe I can combine the two??? ne_nau.gif

    I like the simplicity of the egg shot. I like the contrast of the shadow and highlights... I also like how the curves of the egg compliment that of the bowl.

    But I like the card shot for all different reasons. I like the bright colors of the chips and the green felt. I aslo like the stark contrast of the black symbols on the white background of the cards. I also like that the bokeh in the image too.

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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    ok go with some selective reasoning

    if greensquared were to walk into your gallery, which shot do you suppose she would choose to purchase?

    she is a farm type gal with real chickens....hint hint...

    half the voting is done by women, do you think any of them care about poker?


    go with a wise choice....
    Aaron Nelson
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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    oh, and your other judge is a woman too....

    does this help?
    Aaron Nelson
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    Laughing.gif... yes, it helps a lot. Honestly, I'm a poker buff so I know that is why the card shot appeals to me. But I also know that the egg shot is more soulful and artistic, which would appeal to a much wider audience.

    And now that you mention the chickens, it's a no brainer! thumb.gif

    BTW, I am having a ton of fun with this challenge. In the end, I learned a few new things and I came out with a few cool shots. After all, that is the reason I participated in the first place.
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    BenjerBenjer Registered Users Posts: 275 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    oh, and your other judge is a woman too....

    does this help?

    Laughing.gif, love your reasoning, Aaron!

    My vote, as a guy no less, is the egg. I like poker, and beer, and football, but I think the egg shot has more depth to it, artistically.

    The poker shot is technically excellent - great color, composition, and exposure. But there's not much there to keep me interested as a viewer...the image reveals everything about itself too quickly, and I'm on to the next one.

    The egg shot, however, invites you in to stay a while. The curves draw your eye up and around the image, and as a viewer I'm spending much more time absorbing the subtleties of light and shadow, different surface textures, etc. And I have to say that the egg photo stuck in my mind, whereas the poker shot, though very good, [didn't].

    That's my best "art school" attempt at analyzing why I like the egg the best!

    Benjer
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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    i like the poker B&W best, but.........everyone likes a good ol'egg
    Aaron Nelson
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2008
    I think I'm sticking with the egg shot. Do you guys think it's good as is or do you have any C & C that I can incorporate to make it better?

    Here it is again so you don't have to flip back to the other page:

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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    i like the poker B&W best, but.........everyone likes a good ol'egg

    Aaron... I think your messing with me now. First it's the cards... then the egg... now it's the B&W cards??? headscratch.gif

    I currently have the egg entered. I will probably keep it. I posted it again just above to see if there is any last minute C&C that I can incorporate to make it better.
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    richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    You've got several really good shots to choose from! IMHO, you won't go wrong with either the egg or the B&W poker hand. mwink.gif
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    BenjerBenjer Registered Users Posts: 275 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    I currently have the egg entered. I will probably keep it. I posted it again just above to see if there is any last minute C&C that I can incorporate to make it better.

    Love this shot! thumb.gif I think it's fine as is, but if you have time you might try shooting a few more versions of the same composition, now that you've decided, in case it can be improved.

    I love the lighting and angle, but I'd like to see it with the egg a little sharper. It almost looks like the focal point is along the edge of the bowl, not the egg. A soft diffuser (?) over the light source may also help keep the highlights on the egg from blowing out, for more texture. These are minor concerns on an overall excellent composition, and others may not agree.
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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    Aaron... I think your messing with me now. First it's the cards... then the egg... now it's the B&W cards??? headscratch.gif

    I currently have the egg entered. I will probably keep it. I posted it again just above to see if there is any last minute C&C that I can incorporate to make it better.

    no messing man,

    my opinion is: enter egg, then print and hang b&w cards image on your wall....:D
    Aaron Nelson
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    divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    Benjer wrote:
    I love the lighting and angle, but I'd like to see it with the egg a little sharper. It almost looks like the focal point is along the edge of the bowl, not the egg. A soft diffuser (?) over the light source may also help keep the highlights on the egg from blowing out, for more texture. These are minor concerns on an overall excellent composition, and others may not agree.

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    FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited December 12, 2008
    I agree with those who like the single egg is best.

    As to the latest, I also agree that the blurry red chips in the left hand corner of photos are very distracting. It immediately pulled my eye away from the hand of cards.

    I've enjoyed your ideas and wish you lots of luck in the challenge!!

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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    Reshoot of Egg Solo
    OK... so I took some new shots of the egg solo, with a bit more DOF and also softer light source. Here's a comparison of the old and new.

    Please tell me which you prefer:

    Original
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    New
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    And... here is a new shot I took that I really am happy with the way it turned out. I actually to a whole series of billiard inspired shots. However, this is the only shot that came out really well SOOC. The others I had to post process a bit to really make them pop so they are not eligible for the challenge.

    Potential new entry
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    BTW, I broke one of my wife's lamps shooting these latest shots. Hopefully she won't notice for a few days that way I can blame one of our dogs. mwink.gif
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    Candid ArtsCandid Arts Registered Users Posts: 1,685 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    I most certainly, 100% like the lighting in the 1st egg shot over the 2nd, as well as the angle. Only thing I would want to improve on the 1st shot, personally, is focal point. I would like to see the egg's texture and detail vs a sliver of detail on the bowl, which I think someone else had mentioned earlier. The #2 egg shot is kinda boring for me, not a whole lot of depth, or value, or texture. It looks very flat, where as the first one looks like you could reach into the bowl, and the lighting is amazing. I'd say reshoot the first one EXACTLY, just with a different focal point.

    The billiard one is nice, and I like how the 8 ball is poking it's head out, it's just a little to...straight on for me I think.
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    BenjerBenjer Registered Users Posts: 275 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    I most certainly, 100% like the lighting in the 1st egg shot over the 2nd, as well as the angle. Only thing I would want to improve on the 1st shot, personally, is focal point. I would like to see the egg's texture and detail vs a sliver of detail on the bowl, which I think someone else had mentioned earlier. The #2 egg shot is kinda boring for me, not a whole lot of depth, or value, or texture. It looks very flat, where as the first one looks like you could reach into the bowl, and the lighting is amazing. I'd say reshoot the first one EXACTLY, just with a different focal point.

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    The first shot is perfect, except the focal point. And despite what I said about lighting before, I think that reshooting with the egg in focus will bring out the detail I'm missing in the highlights. The angle and composition are superb as is.
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    TentacionTentacion Registered Users Posts: 940 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    As stated before, I like your egg shot, but find that your highlights are blown out, which takes away from the texture of the egg, which in my opinion would give it that kick it needs to stand out for your composition.

    Love the billard shot, just not the reflections in the balls.

    Nice work Cubano. I have enjoyed your thread!!

    Remember, decisions are hard, and everyone will always have a different view of what you see in your minds eye, because as the old saying goes....Your poison is always someone else's treasure....:D

    Good luck in whichever you choose.

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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    I too like the first egg shot better. I used a flashlight for lighting. I tried it with a different setup on the second one and it just didn't work as well. I will see if I can replicate the shot tonight.

    Thanks.
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    These aren't for the challenge since I did some PP work on them but what to you think... I remove the reflection from the balls and also made a cropped version.

    #1
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    #2
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    Candid ArtsCandid Arts Registered Users Posts: 1,685 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2008
    Eh, I can see where the reflections were, and it looks weird. I like the original one first best. I personally liked the reflections.

    But go with the first egg shot with new focal point for the challenge.
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    anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2008
    I think I nailed the Egg now!
    Here it is guys... I got the perspective as close as I could to the original. The lighting is identicle, if not a little more dramatic and best of all, I got the egg in very sharp focus. I did use a different egg. Went through the whole bunch to find the one with the most texture.

    So what do you think? headscratch.gif

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    BenjerBenjer Registered Users Posts: 275 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2008
    es perfecto!
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    TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2008
    excellent execution sir.... i do believe your done.
    Aaron Nelson
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