*ENTRY* THREAD: DSS#18 (High Key or Low Key)

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  • ellarueellarue Registered Users Posts: 124 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2009
    DoctorIt wrote:
    So I have to admit to some snooping, after Malte commented about your photo site...

    And I was tickled pink that for your 365 project, you gave a nod to Australia Day! Have you been? Do you have a connection, or are you just "worldly" in your observance of holidays?

    (although, you should have done it a day earlier if you wanted to do it right blbl.gif)

    Shame shame for snooping! haha.

    Well, in response to the AU day, that's not what the images was made for, but I guess it could fit. Actually, I have a deep obsession with AU and plan to live there one day... if the economy will ever give and allow me to keep some of my money. I think it's funny that I unknowingly did that though! I guess the AU blood is just dying to get into me.
  • grinandbearitgrinandbearit Registered Users Posts: 21 Big grins
    edited January 28, 2009
    Well I'm excited to give this a try...new here but I'll see if I can compete.
    I've got a few days to come up with something.headscratch.gif Please don't slam me too bad!thumb.gif
  • Candid ArtsCandid Arts Registered Users Posts: 1,685 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    Question...

    In rule #8 you say... "Watermarks: Photos may not exhibit branding or watermarks at any time during the entry period and until all judging for that round is complete. A small signature and copyright at the bottom of the image are encouraged."

    Are you saying that a small signature is encouraged at any time during the entry period or not untill after judging? Kinda confused. I guess an easier way to ask this is, does a signature count as a watermark?
  • brocotbrocot Registered Users Posts: 165 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    richtersl wrote:
    We have an expression in English that says "A picture is worth a thousand words". So with that in mind, here is a link to some examples:

    http://www.worth1000.com/stories/thread.asp?cid=13974&eid=439696


    Here are some low key image examples:

    http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=3&q=low+key+images&btnG=Search+images

    And, here are even better examples that were provided by Pyro in an earlier thread:

    http://www.diyphotography.net/lighti...ey-and-low-key
    Thank You all for helping my on the way,
    Nice links to? thanks
    This example is not 100%, (20%)....but..now I know where to start wings.gif

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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 29, 2009
    ellarue wrote:
    Well, in response to the AU day, that's not what the images was made for, but I guess it could fit. Actually, I have a deep obsession with AU and plan to live there one day... if the economy will ever give and allow me to keep some of my money. I think it's funny that I unknowingly did that though! I guess the AU blood is just dying to get into me.
    It doesn't take money, just an opportunity :D

    I just got back last month from living in Brisbane for the past two years. I miss it, every day. If it weren't for MrsIt and her close family, we would have stayed there. Best place we've ever lived, for so many reasons - forget Melb or Syd, Brisvegas is a good life. nod.gif
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 29, 2009
    Question...

    In rule #8 you say... "Watermarks: Photos may not exhibit branding or watermarks at any time during the entry period and until all judging for that round is complete. A small signature and copyright at the bottom of the image are encouraged."

    Are you saying that a small signature is encouraged at any time during the entry period or not untill after judging? Kinda confused. I guess an easier way to ask this is, does a signature count as a watermark?
    I'll change that wording. Its simply alluding to days when people would link their photos from their own photo-site, and therefore, they were prone to change during the contest period. Now that all entries are uploaded to our own entries gallery this isn't a problem.

    The rule, more simply, is:
    Watermarks: Photos may not exhibit branding or watermarks. However, a small signature and copyright at the bottom of the image are encouraged.

    Clear?
    Erik
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  • angevin1angevin1 Registered Users Posts: 3,403 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    brocot wrote:
    Sorry,

    my English is not so good, mwink.gif
    "High Key or Low Key" a hint please ?

    The dictionary was not very helpful in this case.
    I hope the pictures will be better than my English wings.gif
    Et mon Français est pauvre au mieux.
    dans la musique. Clefs sur un piano.
    dans la chanson : octaves.
    dans la photographie

    Haut discret principal est le titre de ce défi.
    et pouvez t'être interprété cependant l'envisagez. Avec les techniques photographiques ou d'une autre mode, comme suggéré ci-dessus.
    Bonne chance, et cava~

    tom
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  • Candid ArtsCandid Arts Registered Users Posts: 1,685 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    DoctorIt wrote:
    I'll change that wording. Its simply alluding to days when people would link their photos from their own photo-site, and therefore, they were prone to change during the contest period. Now that all entries are uploaded to our own entries gallery this isn't a problem.

    The rule, more simply, is:
    Watermarks: Photos may not exhibit branding or watermarks. However, a small signature and copyright at the bottom of the image are encouraged.

    Clear?

    Crystal. That's what I thought it was saying. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    angevin1 wrote:
    Et mon Français est pauvre au mieux.
    dans la musique. Clefs sur un piano.
    dans la chanson : octaves.
    dans la photographie

    Haut discret principal est le titre de ce défi.
    et pouvez t'être interprété cependant l'envisagez. Avec les techniques photographiques ou d'une autre mode, comme suggéré ci-dessus.
    Bonne chance, et cava~

    tom

    agreed, yes interprete as you wish, thats the idea...thumb.gif
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  • brocotbrocot Registered Users Posts: 165 Major grins
    edited January 29, 2009
    angevin1 wrote:
    Et mon Français est pauvre au mieux.
    dans la musique. Clefs sur un piano.
    dans la chanson : octaves.
    dans la photographie

    Haut discret principal est le titre de ce défi.
    et pouvez t'être interprété cependant l'envisagez. Avec les techniques photographiques ou d'une autre mode, comme suggéré ci-dessus.
    Bonne chance, et cava~

    tom
    Merci, pour la réponse, et bonne chance avec votre travaille. thumb.gif
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  • TrevlanTrevlan Registered Users Posts: 649 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    I think we are missing a little bit of the concept with High Key and Low Key. High key is a blown out background with the tone of the image in nice bright white. BUT the subject must be properly exposed.

    Low Key is a blown out background with the tone of the image black. Lots of contrast and shadows. BUT the subject must be properly exposed.

    Low Key shots are usually the more difficult of the two to produce because you need to control the light more.

    Hope this helps someone. ;-) I might join you champs for this challenge. ;-)
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    Trevlan wrote:
    I think we are missing a little bit of the concept with High Key and Low Key. High key is a blown out background with the tone of the image in nice bright white. BUT the subject must be properly exposed.

    Low Key is a blown out background with the tone of the image black. Lots of contrast and shadows. BUT the subject must be properly exposed.

    Low Key shots are usually the more difficult of the two to produce because you need to control the light more.

    Hope this helps someone. ;-) I might join you champs for this challenge. ;-)

    sorry Trevlan, i think your missing the concept.
    the challenges forum is open to interpretation to all degrees. feel free to show yours....
    Aaron Nelson
  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    Trevlan, you make a very good point on the correct technical process using the terms low key and high key in accepted photographic terms.

    Aaron, you also make a very good point regarding art and these challenges epecially.

    It is fully open to interpretation, but what the judges will base their decisions on may also vary. The point is to try something new, come out with an image that you are pleased with and have learned from. If you get through to the Mega-Challenge, then that should be just cream on the top. :D
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  • evorywareevoryware Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited January 30, 2009
    I see so many definitions for High Key, but it does not mean that the background is blown out or even white.

    here's an idea:

    http://lumitouch.com/benstudiotutorial/benji9.html
    In the digital age this translates to all tones in the image will be above 128 with the exception of [a] few black tones. These few could be for example the pupils of the subject's eyes in a portrait. This would not include a subject wearing black slacks posed on an all white background.
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  • TrevlanTrevlan Registered Users Posts: 649 Major grins
    edited January 31, 2009
    Trevlan, you make a very good point on the correct technical process using the terms low key and high key in accepted photographic terms.

    Aaron, you also make a very good point regarding art and these challenges epecially.

    It is fully open to interpretation, but what the judges will base their decisions on may also vary. The point is to try something new, come out with an image that you are pleased with and have learned from. If you get through to the Mega-Challenge, then that should be just cream on the top. :D

    Yep, looks like there is a craze here with the technicallity of the challenge. I joined a challenge group on Smugmug, and those guys are really creative. They choose a theme and give you a week to create your interpretation. Some of them are off the wall.

    I understand now. The topic is High Key or Low Key. Doesn't mean that you have to produce a High or Low key image. And with that said, I just got hit in the face with an idea. thumb.gif
    Frank Martinez
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  • TrevlanTrevlan Registered Users Posts: 649 Major grins
    edited January 31, 2009
    evoryware wrote:
    I see so many definitions for High Key, but it does not mean that the background is blown out or even white.

    here's an idea:

    http://lumitouch.com/benstudiotutorial/benji9.html

    You're absulotely right Damon. That's more of a traditional definition. But now, when people think High key, they think pure white backgrounds, no shadows on the face, etc. There are a series of books on amazon that demonstrate the how to's of High Key, Mid Key and Low Key. I'm going to pick those bad boys up pretty soon.

    *Note: Please excuse my spelling. Every genius has a flaw. ;-)
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  • gmonkehgmonkeh Registered Users Posts: 312 Major grins
    edited January 31, 2009
    I can't seem to upload my image. It says it's been uploaded but doesn't show up in the gallery. It's my first DSS challenge, so being a little noobish here.
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 1, 2009
    gmonkeh wrote:
    I can't seem to upload my image. It says it's been uploaded but doesn't show up in the gallery. It's my first DSS challenge, so being a little noobish here.
    No idea.

    I checked the upload log and there are no errors listed. That would be the only explanation for a photo uploading and not showing.

    ne_nau.gif

    Do you have your own smug account? Does that same file upload in there?
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  • divamumdivamum Registered Users Posts: 9,021 Major grins
    edited February 1, 2009
    DoctorIt wrote:
    No idea.

    I checked the upload log and there are no errors listed. That would be the only explanation for a photo uploading and not showing.

    ne_nau.gif

    Do you have your own smug account? Does that same file upload in there?

    Ellarue posted the same problem several posts back, and when I uploaded mine earlier in the week it did not appear immediately as usual, but possibly 2-3 minutes after the "upload completed" page came up. Also, once it had appeared I couldn't add caption details until I had logged out and re-logged in to the challenges gallery.

    I do have an sm account, and my uploads using that login have been completely normal - it seems to be specific to this particular gallery.

    Just throwing this in as information for the diagnostic process.....
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 1, 2009
    divamum wrote:
    Just throwing this in as information for the diagnostic process.....
    thanks. my diagnosis is: everything works swimmingly on my end, so we'll, chalk it up to ghosts. :D


    BTW, there's now an entry from gmonkeh showing thumb.gif
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  • lunadoeeyeslunadoeeyes Registered Users Posts: 11 Big grins
    edited February 1, 2009
    Being new here and my first challenge....I had no problems uploading.
    Good luck to All !!!

  • Candid ArtsCandid Arts Registered Users Posts: 1,685 Major grins
    edited February 2, 2009
    Being new here and my first challenge....I had no problems uploading.
    Good luck to All !!!


    Just an FYI for you...when you put your username and image title in the photo, put it in the "edit caption" instead of the keywords section.
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 2, 2009
    Some rule reminders on captioning your photos:

    1. "username - title" that and only that. Clear?

    Unless your username actually is username(realname), with parentheses and all, I don't want to see it. Why am I being a PITA about this? Well, I copy everything before the "-" and put it into our user database to make sure you are a registered dgrinner. Yes, I know most of you, and I realize the little caption personalization from a couple of you, and I have fixed your captions myself. But what about a newer entrant, who doesn't post at all, just enters? If there is a typo in their username, I don't find them, and then, oh well, dq'ed because you're not a reg'd dgrinner.

    2. make sure you put your caption in the caption, not in the keywords.

    Mark my words, some day the entry process will be automated, and little errors like the above will result in a prompt dq by the robot doing the automation.
    deal.gif
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  • lunadoeeyeslunadoeeyes Registered Users Posts: 11 Big grins
    edited February 2, 2009
    maya
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    ....... now I know. Thank you for the fix....
  • THengTHeng Registered Users Posts: 19 Big grins
    edited February 2, 2009
    This is my 3rd entry, the first one I didn't read the rules and entered a pic that I had taken a few months ago. The second entry I was focusing more on the creativeness of the "hair" and not so much on the photo, so it wasn't great. This one I'm pretty proud of. I like all of the entries so far, good luck :)
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  • 1ibandit1ibandit Registered Users Posts: 90 Big grins
    edited February 3, 2009
    divamum wrote:
    "High key" is a picture that is mostly extreme light tones and highlights and "low key" is a picture that is mostly dark tones and shadows. This link http://www.diyphotography.net/lighti...ey-and-low-key has a clear explanation.

    Hope this helps!

    It's been a while since I was at DGIN so I was kinda lost also as to what this High/Low Key was. Thank you for the link.... told me just want was needed.

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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 3, 2009
    Hey out there in entrant land - I just deleted:

    1 photo that did have a caption but was out of the date range

    and

    6 random black and white shots that were totally uncaptioned and also out of the date range.


    read da rulez n00bs deal.gif
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  • KevXmanKevXman Registered Users Posts: 945 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    DoctorIt wrote:
    read da rulez n00bs deal.gif

    :whip I would think that your arm would be tired by now, if it hasn't completely fallen off. :D
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  • BradfordBennBradfordBenn Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited February 4, 2009
    It is fully open to interpretation, but what the judges will base their decisions on may also vary. The point is to try something new, come out with an image that you are pleased with and have learned from. If you get through to the Mega-Challenge, then that should be just cream on the top. :D

    Oh I am entirely interpreting, cause the other ideas haven't panned out. Still not sure if I can get it right...
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  • ccogginsccoggins Registered Users Posts: 25 Big grins
    edited February 5, 2009
    Just a question
    would this be considered either ?
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