Andy - Since photography IS "writing with light", maybe we should have some contest subjects determined by lighting rather than subject eg; front lighting, flat lighting, harsh lighting, side lighting, back lighting, colored lighting, sillouhettes, etc. This takes the emphasis off the subject and onto the art of using light to create an image. Any value in trying something like this?
We all say that lighting is the most important thing, but most of us forget it when it come to peering through a viewfinder - myself included. That is why having the emphasis on lighting style rather than subject might be educational. That is what was trying to demonstrate with my lawn ornaments.
Savannah Man (don't remember the spelling exactly)
I vote the subject be
Savannah Man
Loved his suggestions, I don't know about seeing him nude first thing in the morning, but would love to watch him in the water with his camera.
We could maybe even get him in jail for inciting a prison riot. I am sure there are many other things on his lists I would enjoy photographing Savannahman doing.
Sorry Waxy, lol. My humor is often mistaken with bad results. Just makin' sure! The prison riot might be possible, we're gearing up for G8 here. We're the media center. Yay! Unfortunately I'm going to be in Atl for a class that week, so no protester pictures unfortunately. (sob)
I would love to pose in the water ginger, but who would take the picture? I'm open for being the subject, but I only have two rooms at my place available. The rest of you have to stay downtown with the Secret service, National Guard, reporters, and angry activists!
Andy - Since photography IS "writing with light", maybe we should have some contest subjects determined by lighting rather than subject eg; front lighting, flat lighting, harsh lighting, side lighting, back lighting, colored lighting, sillouhettes, etc. This takes the emphasis off the subject and onto the art of using light to create an image. Any value in trying something like this?
PathFinder,
I think what you are suggesting is right along with what I was going to suggest as well...
the Quality of Light
An assignment using the quality of light makes "Lighting" the focus of the subject, rather than the actual subject itself. It opens up a myriad of photographic opportunities.
Photography literally means, "writing with light," and light is the basic component of any photograph, but it is very interesting when light becomes the subject itself.
Pools of light make interesting photos on their own. Light dappled through the trees, hard lighting, soft lighting, spotlighting, rim or back lighting, silhouettes, front lighting, natural, artificial, or flash... the list goes on.
Oy vey... I'm agreeing, but probably saying too much.
ginette
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I like Pathfinder's suggestions a lot. Gets to the fundamentals of good photography. Ginette, I see what you mean. I guess the Bright Light assignment covered an aspect of what you're talking about?
Sorry Waxy, lol. My humor is often mistaken with bad results. Just makin' sure! The prison riot might be possible, we're gearing up for G8 here. We're the media center. Yay! Unfortunately I'm going to be in Atl for a class that week, so no protester pictures unfortunately. (sob)
I would love to pose in the water ginger, but who would take the picture? I'm open for being the subject, but I only have two rooms at my place available. The rest of you have to stay downtown with the Secret service, National Guard, reporters, and angry activists!
:feelgood Maybe I can buy you a beverage while you're here?
I like Pathfinder's suggestions a lot. Gets to the fundamentals of good photography. Ginette, I see what you mean. I guess the Bright Light assignment covered an aspect of what you're talking about?
Yes & no, Sid.
Bright Light was, at least for me, more about controlling the bright light so that there was still depth in the shadow, and the highlights were not blown away. OF course that wasn't what most of us really did, but I think that was the "real" focus of the assignment.
The quality of light is using the light to actually create the photo. The light sets the mood, ambience-- the overall feel of the photo.
The light is what gives a photo depth, or makes it look flat. Learning to mold that quality so that you get a beautiful photo rather than a drab one, is what I am talking about.
For example...Most of us recognize that a sunset is beautiful, but if we turn our back on the sunset, and use the lighting from that sunset to light our subject... The "Golden moments." The photos and portraits taken at this time can be really beautiful. Of course that means we've studied the shot, composed and focused... and then, taken the photo.
Here are two that sort of show the difference, same day, same child, only a couple of feet difference in the yard. The First one taken before sunset and the second one taken using warm cast of the winter sunset as the lighting source. Both unadjusted for you to see the difference. Not the best example, but two I had at quick reach.
09 November 2003
ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
A subject suggestion
With the talk of the size of pictures submitted from Smugmug, portraits desired as a Large, I thought that "portraits" would be a good topic for a challenge.
Infrared, please?
I have other things that I want to know, but that infrared is driving me nuts, and I can't find it in other sources, not that i understand. Do I need a filter, or can I do it with photoshop?
Also cutting something out and putting in in another place or photo.
Rare (finds, things, objects), anything rare. all of the techniques can then be applied for effects. This subject came me quite suddenly today. What do you think?
the "no-photoshop" challenge
just want you all to know that coming up soon, we *will* for sure have a "minimal-photoshop-usage" challenge. meaning, just the basics will be allowed.
I have other things that I want to know, but that infrared is driving me nuts, and I can't find it in other sources, not that i understand. Do I need a filter, or can I do it with photoshop?
I don't think infrared photography is possible with a visible-light digital camera. You'd need a CCD that was sensitive to a different spectrum of light, just like infrared film is. Can anyone correct me?
In the least, it can't be done with Photoshop, as the imager isn't going to record infrared light to begin with. If it ain't there in the image in the first place, PS can't retrieve it.
just want you all to know that coming up soon, we *will* for sure have a "minimal-photoshop-usage" challenge. meaning, just the basics will be allowed.
infrared and faking it
you can try with any camera. you need an ir filter, like a hoya r72 to start. if your camera isn't one that supports ir (like the sony f7x7 or f828) then you need to shoot in manual ir, which means long exposures (tripod) and trial and error.
just want you all to know that coming up soon, we *will* for sure have a "minimal-photoshop-usage" challenge. meaning, just the basics will be allowed.
your benevolent host is listening
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May the best camera win, lol.
Nevermind, ginger
(big difference in pop between my canon elph and my 300 rebel, at least according to my just "off the street" relatives, smile.)
Hey, we could have a workshop on "basics", you know, "manual", on Shenanigans. There is a reason I am going to have to learn manual, it is coming up, but I can't remember why, just will do it. But to use it to the best it can be, well, there is a workshop there, I know there is.
you can try with any camera. you need an ir filter, like a hoya r72 to start. if your camera isn't one that supports ir (like the sony f7x7 or f828) then you need to shoot in manual ir, which means long exposures (tripod) and trial and error.p
Hang on. Doesn't make sense to me. The R72 filters out non-IR light, basically. Hoya even says the filter should be used with IR film. The filter doesn't make non-IR film take IR images, because non-IR film isn't very sensitive to IR light. Ditto with our digital imagers.
So, while this might be tricking things a bit, it isn't really IR photography.
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We all say that lighting is the most important thing, but most of us forget it when it come to peering through a viewfinder - myself included. That is why having the emphasis on lighting style rather than subject might be educational. That is what was trying to demonstrate with my lawn ornaments.
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I about laughed myself sick!
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I vote the subject be
Savannah Man
Loved his suggestions, I don't know about seeing him nude first thing in the morning, but would love to watch him in the water with his camera.
We could maybe even get him in jail for inciting a prison riot. I am sure there are many other things on his lists I would enjoy photographing Savannahman doing.
ginger
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I think the attempt at humor in my response may have been too subtle.
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I would love to pose in the water ginger, but who would take the picture? I'm open for being the subject, but I only have two rooms at my place available. The rest of you have to stay downtown with the Secret service, National Guard, reporters, and angry activists!
PathFinder,
I think what you are suggesting is right along with what I was going to suggest as well...
- the Quality of Light
An assignment using the quality of light makes "Lighting" the focus of the subject, rather than the actual subject itself. It opens up a myriad of photographic opportunities.Photography literally means, "writing with light," and light is the basic component of any photograph, but it is very interesting when light becomes the subject itself.
Pools of light make interesting photos on their own. Light dappled through the trees, hard lighting, soft lighting, spotlighting, rim or back lighting, silhouettes, front lighting, natural, artificial, or flash... the list goes on.
Oy vey... I'm agreeing, but probably saying too much.
ginette
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
:feelgood Maybe I can buy you a beverage while you're here?
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Yes & no, Sid.
Bright Light was, at least for me, more about controlling the bright light so that there was still depth in the shadow, and the highlights were not blown away. OF course that wasn't what most of us really did, but I think that was the "real" focus of the assignment.
The quality of light is using the light to actually create the photo. The light sets the mood, ambience-- the overall feel of the photo.
The light is what gives a photo depth, or makes it look flat. Learning to mold that quality so that you get a beautiful photo rather than a drab one, is what I am talking about.
For example...Most of us recognize that a sunset is beautiful, but if we turn our back on the sunset, and use the lighting from that sunset to light our subject... The "Golden moments." The photos and portraits taken at this time can be really beautiful. Of course that means we've studied the shot, composed and focused... and then, taken the photo.
Here are two that sort of show the difference, same day, same child, only a couple of feet difference in the yard. The First one taken before sunset and the second one taken using warm cast of the winter sunset as the lighting source. Both unadjusted for you to see the difference. Not the best example, but two I had at quick reach.
09 November 2003
ginette
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With the talk of the size of pictures submitted from Smugmug, portraits desired as a Large, I thought that "portraits" would be a good topic for a challenge.
ginger
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I have other things that I want to know, but that infrared is driving me nuts, and I can't find it in other sources, not that i understand. Do I need a filter, or can I do it with photoshop?
Also cutting something out and putting in in another place or photo.
Either as assignments, or as Cletus things.
ginger
just want you all to know that coming up soon, we *will* for sure have a "minimal-photoshop-usage" challenge. meaning, just the basics will be allowed.
your benevolent host is listening
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I don't think infrared photography is possible with a visible-light digital camera. You'd need a CCD that was sensitive to a different spectrum of light, just like infrared film is. Can anyone correct me?
In the least, it can't be done with Photoshop, as the imager isn't going to record infrared light to begin with. If it ain't there in the image in the first place, PS can't retrieve it.
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you can try with any camera. you need an ir filter, like a hoya r72 to start. if your camera isn't one that supports ir (like the sony f7x7 or f828) then you need to shoot in manual ir, which means long exposures (tripod) and trial and error.
also, here's a good thread on "pseudo-ir" via photoshop
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May the best camera win, lol.
Nevermind, ginger
(big difference in pop between my canon elph and my 300 rebel, at least according to my just "off the street" relatives, smile.)
Hey, we could have a workshop on "basics", you know, "manual", on Shenanigans. There is a reason I am going to have to learn manual, it is coming up, but I can't remember why, just will do it. But to use it to the best it can be, well, there is a workshop there, I know there is.
Hang on. Doesn't make sense to me. The R72 filters out non-IR light, basically. Hoya even says the filter should be used with IR film. The filter doesn't make non-IR film take IR images, because non-IR film isn't very sensitive to IR light. Ditto with our digital imagers.
So, while this might be tricking things a bit, it isn't really IR photography.
A former sports shooter
Follow me at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bjurasz/
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