*ENTRY* Thread DSS #33: Movement (Straight Out of the Camera Challenge)

Llywellyn

Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge #33

Welcome to Round #33 of the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenges. This challenge is open to any Dgrin member. It will run from Monday, September 7, 08:00am, EDT time (GMT -4) to Monday, September 21, 08:00am, EDT time (GMT -4).

The topic ready for your interpretation: Movement (Straight Out of the Camera Challenge)

Speed, sway, crawl, or hop, movement is what you need to show, sans edit, clone, cut, or crop. Straight out of the camera means from your camera to the gallery, with no editing in between. Focus your energy on getting it right in camera. Now...get moving!

Your Judges:
Mad Cat (Winner of Round 30)
Sherstone (Guest Judge)



IMPORTANT NOTE: Your entry is to be submitted directly into a Smugmug gallery. It's pretty simple, just go to the gallery link below, and follow the upload instructions at the top of the page:

DSS#33 Entry Gallery

Remember, the basics stay the same: 1 entry per person, and the photo must be fresh, taken during this contest period. Do not use a minimal save method (such as "save for web"), and your exif will be embedded in your image, no worries!

To avoid disqualification, read, in full, the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge Rules, there have been some slight modifications.

pemmett

Kerry, Wonderful topic and it all sounds so straight forward... However, looking back to previous challenges with this (straight out of the camera) addition, we know that someone will ask the question about what does it mean? and how do we prove that our image is truely "straight out of the camera".

Well now that I've done the honours I think I'll get moving with training my hedgehogs again.

Cheers/Peter

rhommel

pemmett wrote:

Kerry, Wonderful topic and it all sounds so straight forward... However, looking back to previous challenges with this (straight out of the camera) addition, we know that someone will ask the question about what does it mean? and how do we prove that our image is truely "straight out of the camera".

Well now that I've done the honours I think I'll get moving with training my hedgehogs again.

Cheers/Peter

good question.. unless we can submit the RAW file

ghinson

Good question. In my self-taught, amateurish workflow, I think of it as being SOOC if it never goes from Lightroom to Photoshop. But that's not true. Just having LR convert the RAW file is processing. Not to mention playing with the tone sliders. I like the topic though! Have some fun ideas in my head.

Llywellyn

You can convert the RAW to JPG, but no other editing may be done. Not even a WB correction. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Really, it's probably easier to shoot JPG this round and then switch back. No PP. Use in-camera settings.

I recommend reading the past threads. Does it really all need to be said again?

ghinson

Damn! There is a Search function in the DGRIN forums. Who knew?

Thanks. Will shoot jpeg and export straight to smugmug.

Llywellyn

ghinson wrote:

Damn! There is a Search function in the DGRIN forums. Who knew?

Only those with super-elite ninja skills may know. :patch

I believe it's all been covered before, but if something is still unclear, do ask. This isn't meant to be overanalyzed until it gets all squirrelly. Eliminate post-production and focus on the "pre": lighting, camera filters, smearing petroleum on the lens, what have you. Be creative! And step away from the digital darkroom.

bf2015

Great! Now I'm gonna have to go and find my camera user's manual!

dnie

personally...
I loves it!!!

Now just to find the movement, but I do believe I can...

(I think I can, I think I can...)

Greensquared

Wow, Kerry! I love it when you make us work hard! This is going to be a tough one!

lizzard_nyc

I've been complaining to myself loudly that the reason my photos are lacking is because I have such limited PP available to me--Now what will I use as an excuse?!!!

Oh yes--it's a kit lens--if only I had pricier glass! .

JAG

awwww! I just took some great fair images of my lil one being slung around on a mixer ride! It would have been great to use it. Oh well....I am usually a day late and a dollar short....now I am two days early and out $50 bucks!




Ok....thinking cap on.

Smithy

I have a great idea for this one, but the photo is gotten much easier with the camera upside-down... is a simple 180 flip considered foul here?

Mad Cat

Some Suggestions From the Judge
Hi Grinners,
I can't participate in the current contest, - I'm one of the judges. With Kerry's permission I'd like to offer up a few suggestions. I understand that the folks in this wonderfull outfit run the full gamut from raw beginner to seasoned pro - so take what you can use and discard the rest....
I'll also add that everything I'm suggesting are only HOW I WOULD DO IT. If you try my suggestion, then try something else & you like it better - follow your eye and your heart on this one.
White balance: you have to have it right straight out of the camera this time around. So either avoid tricky lighting situations (inside churches with a mix of stained glass, flourescent, etc) altogether, or if you MUST then get out your cameras instruction book and find out if it allows you to pre-set your white balance. If you have an image where all the white walls look yellow and people's skin has a green cast to it - it's a dead give - away you were shooting under flourescent and weren't paying attention to your white balance. Some cameras actually allow you to bracket your while balance as well. One way to avoid this headache, if you're shooting indoors, is of course to use your flash. Just remember the flash can only reach out so far...
Exposure: This is a tuffy because in addition to the image having to come straight out of the camera - there has to be a sense of movement in it as well. Chances are you'll be shooting at a moving target.... Man who comes up with these contest ideas??? Still I encourage everybody (camera allowing) to bracket their exposures as well. I personally would use a -1/0/+1 bracket.
One last thing - I don't know if a lot of folks shot on ISO auto - personally I NEVER do. Pick an ISO and stick with it - ISO auto makes for a situation where you have one less thing under your control. Personal opinion there - like I said I never use it.... so once again... follow your eye and your heart.
This is going to a nail biting, hair pulling contest. It's going to give a lot of folks who rely heavily on Post (confession here - I do) the opportunity to really get their entire bodies outside the box. I'm not going to offer up any kind of "best of luck to every one" conclusion to this post, because luck isn't going to have anything to with it folks. It's all about skill and I look forward to seeing some of the best images you guys can pull off.
Get out there and kick some butt...... Wess/Mad Cat

divamum

Smithy wrote:

I have a great idea for this one, but the photo is gotten much easier with the camera upside-down... is a simple 180 flip considered foul here?

I'm sure Kerry will answer in due course, but I can tell you that in past SOOC rounds that wasn't allowed. Unless you actually do it IN your camera... nope.

Llywellyn

Smithy wrote:

I have a great idea for this one, but the photo is gotten much easier with the camera upside-down... is a simple 180 flip considered foul here?

Must be in camera and at the scene, so I'd either flip yourself or the world around to avoid any post-flip need. Or submit it upside-down!

michswiss

Two for one? As you've probably noticed, I tend to do a lot of B&W. I'm thinking of setting my camera to capture both RAW and jpeg (with appropriate B&W settings enabled) capture. That way I would have colour and B&W options for each shot. Any problems with this idea?

Llywellyn

michswiss wrote:

Two for one? As you've probably noticed, I tend to do a lot of B&W. I'm thinking of setting my camera to capture both RAW and jpeg (with appropriate B&W settings enabled) capture. That way I would have colour and B&W options for each shot. Any problems with this idea?

As long as it's done in camera, no. (For those of you wondering how we'd know, we're looking at the differences between the "date taken" and "date modified" time stamps.)

ChatKat

My take on this
I love a SOOC challenge. For the first 5 years I shot digital, I shot jpg and rarely did anything but a slider here and there to adjust. Now I do shoot RAW but my personal goal includes getting it right in the camera without needing much of any adjustments from PS or LR.

I guess it comes from starting with film shooting a long time ago. But I can assure you that you will be a better photographer when you master shooting without the computer's assistance.

lizzard_nyc

I just googled "shutter priority on Olympus E620"--so thanks for getting me out of my small comfort zone. I haven't used this setting yet.

Also Wess--thanks for the tips--I've got an idea burning a whole in my head now and I just need to get out there and shoot.

sherstone

I love SOOC challenges, they stimulate my mind even more!

Thanks Kerry.:D

pemmett

Kerry, sorry about the question but I knew it was going to be asked. I agree with Sherstone that these challenges are great, as they get us looking into what is possible "in-camera" - which nowadays is a fair bit :-)

Thanks for the challenge and helping me to find my manuals ;-)

Cheers/peter

Smithy

Llywellyn wrote:

Must be in camera and at the scene, so I'd either flip yourself or the world around to avoid any post-flip need. Or submit it upside-down!

Thanks. I think I have something that'll work.

Mad Cat

ChatKat wrote:

I love a SOOC challenge. For the first 5 years I shot digital, I shot jpg and rarely did anything but a slider here and there to adjust. Now I do shoot RAW but my personal goal includes getting it right in the camera without needing much of any adjustments from PS or LR.

I guess it comes from starting with film shooting a long time ago. But I can assure you that you will be a better photographer when you master shooting without the computer's assistance.

I also shot with film for years and sometimes miss it a lot. Once you were done with the shoot & handed off the film it was all in the hands of the photofinishing lab. Yeah a little time proofing afterwards, but nothing like the hours spent in front of the computer doing post. There's one area, I think, were film is still superior to digital - that would be long night exposures on a tripod.

I, like you try to get it right the first time, in camera. Almost every time I've gotten lazy & figured I could fix something in post - I've ended up with a time consuming mess.

Mad Cat

lizzard_nyc wrote:

I just googled "shutter priority on Olympus E620"--so thanks for getting me out of my small comfort zone. I haven't used this setting yet.

Also Wess--thanks for the tips--I've got an idea burning a whole in my head now and I just need to get out there and shoot.

You have fire in the head, huh? Sometimes I can muster enough energy and get really excited about some idea I have.... I hope you do well!!

MarkR

Llywellyn wrote:

As long as it's done in camera, no. (For those of you wondering how we'd know, we're looking at the differences between the "date taken" and "date modified" time stamps.)

... Except that apparently the K20D (at least) modifies the "date modified" stamp if an in-camera filter is applied.

divamum

For those who weren't around for the previous SOOC challenges (aack! I was.... so does this officially make me an 'old timer" now... EEEEK! :yikes ), they demonstrated some of the best work we've ever seen on the boards. Stunning.

Dusk/Dawn
Still Life

(ETA: Wow - I got all nostalgic browsing through the entry THREAD... the galleries are so much more elegant and easier overall, but I consider those first few threads my "launch" into photography - long before I tried an entry I would pore over them for hours trying to decide what I liked and why. Ah me.... )

richtersl

divamum wrote:

For those who weren't around for the previous SOOC challenges (aack! I was.... so does this officially make me an 'old timer" now... EEEEK! :yikes )

:ruttYou're still a young 'un, Missy. Some of us have been around since the LPS days.

Llywellyn

MarkR wrote:

... Except that apparently the K20D (at least) modifies the "date modified" stamp if an in-camera filter is applied.

My Nikons do that, too, but it shows up as "Date Digitized" instead of "Date Modified" when an in-camera filter is used. Cameras are weird. :giggle

Mohamed.Ghuloom

Hey, my first time joining a challenge
Added mine
http://challenges.smugmug.com/Other/DSS-33/9546126_UcMnF#644500681_ddE7n

Halite

Mohamed.Ghuloom wrote:

Hey, my first time joining a challenge
Added mine
http://challenges.smugmug.com/Other/DSS-33/9546126_UcMnF#644500681_ddE7n

Welcome!