I am just now learning about this Photoshop Creative Cloud, and it's a bit confusing to me. I was looking to upgrade from CS5 (I have the disk) to CS6, but seems I missed the boat on getting it on disk. And I certainly don't want to lose use of current Photoshop and layered files.
If I'm happy enough with CS5 on disk, will I still be good working with it, saving and storing layered images as .psd, image manipulation and all that? Or do they put the voodoo on my existing software and files.
I am just now learning about this Photoshop Creative Cloud, and it's a bit confusing to me. I was looking to upgrade from CS5 (I have the disk) to CS6, but seems I missed the boat on getting it on disk. And I certainly don't want to lose use of current Photoshop and layered files.
If I'm happy enough with CS5 on disk, will I still be good working with it, saving and storing layered images as .psd, image manipulation and all that? Or do they put the voodoo on my existing software and files.
You can still buy CS6 as a disk with a perpetual licence. But at this stage, Adobe are saying it will be the last version available on disk. Also any new features will not be updated to CS6 users ... only the Creative Cloud will get updated to new features.
(Adobe have said that they will supply patches for CS6 for some time - can't remember their exact working)
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You can still buy CS6 as a disk with a perpetual licence. But at this stage, Adobe are saying it will be the last version available on disk. Also any new features will not be updated to CS6 users ... only the Creative Cloud will get updated to new features.
(Adobe have said that they will supply patches for CS6 for some time - can't remember their exact working)
Yea, I see that I can buy CS6 for the full retail price. But I have CS5 and only need an upgrade, which does not appear to be an option. Looks like choice is to purchase it at full price or sign up for perpetual payments, so long-standing customers who have continued to up-grade are SOL. Unless I'm missing something.
Yea, I see that I can buy CS6 for the full retail price. But I have CS5 and only need an upgrade, which does not appear to be an option. Looks like choice is to purchase it at full price or sign up for perpetual payments, so long-standing customers who have continued to up-grade are SOL. Unless I'm missing something.
Choose either Photoshop CS6 or Photoshop CS6 Extended and click the "Buy" link. This should bring up some options including:
I want to buy: "Full"
... is default, but if you click the little down arrow you can select "Upgrade".
When you choose the "Upgrade" option and the product you are upgrading from you should see CS6 Upgrade for US $199.00 and US $399.00 for PS CS6 Extended Upgrade.
Choose either Photoshop CS6 or Photoshop CS6 Extended and click the "Buy" link. This should bring up some options including:
I want to buy: "Full"
... is default, but if you click the little down arrow you can select "Upgrade".
When you choose the "Upgrade" option and the product you are upgrading from you should see CS6 Upgrade for US $199.00 and US $399.00 for PS CS6 Extended Upgrade.
Does this make sense?
You are the man, Ziggy!! I would never had thought to check out the arrows. Thanks so much.
Now my only concern is not getting it on disk? Me being old school, I ordered CS5 as an upgrade on disk and Adobe sent it. But I see at check-out it is only available as a download. So I'm concerned about being able to get CS6 again if I have computer problems or when I get a new computer. Guess I can always call Adobe and see what they say. Anybody have thoughts or experience with this?
That isn't unexpected. Though some advanced features will not work in a pirated copy due to their reliance on cloud access. As time goes on that gap will widen. What I find interesting is that Adobe added 200,000 new CC subscribers last quarter. The CEO indicated they are seeing that trend up through the rest of the year. If there is outrage it seems those voices are overwhelmed by the horde of people signing up for subscriptions. They expect to see 4 million subscribers by 2015.
I just downloaded CC two days ago. It is for sure a "version 1.0" kind of experience, but I can see where this is going already. The big missing features right now are file syncing and Typekit. They are just place holders at the moment. A few of the "cloud only" offerings seem interesting as well. Adobe Muse reminds me of Microsoft's FrontPage, but done right (from a designers perspective). I might use it for small galleries or other specialized sites. I'm curious what other people think of the CC release. Anyone else using it?
Interesting factoid... all the attendees to the Windows Build conference got a free 1 year sub to Adobe Creative Cloud. Windows Build is a conference Microsoft puts on about every year or so for Windows developers.
Interesting factoid... all the attendees to the Windows Build conference got a free 1 year sub to Adobe Creative Cloud. Windows Build is a conference Microsoft puts on about every year or so for Windows developers.
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My 2008 iMac was laid to rest this week. I had the Adobe Elements 6 on it and I am finding out the Elements history from 6 to the current 11 hasn't been an improvement. The 11 is more like iPhoto. Grrr So what is similar to Elements 6? Photoshop CC. So let's do the math... I purchased Elements 6 in 2008 for maybe $125.00. Today to use Photoshop CC for five years it would cost me $1,199.40 or I could purchase the CS6 for $699.00 for the life of this new computer. Does anyone have suggestions for other developers that create similar products? I agree CC stands fro "Cash Cow"
My 2008 iMac was laid to rest this week. I had the Adobe Elements 6 on it and I am finding out the Elements history from 6 to the current 11 hasn't been an improvement. The 11 is more like iPhoto. Grrr So what is similar to Elements 6? Photoshop CC. So let's do the math... I purchased Elements 6 in 2008 for maybe $125.00. Today to use Photoshop CC for five years it would cost me $1,199.40 or I could purchase the CS6 for $699.00 for the life of this new computer. Does anyone have suggestions for other developers that create similar products? I agree CC stands fro "Cash Cow"
If "Adobe Elements 6" was sufficient, you might try Adobe Lightroom. While the interface is completely different*, the basic capabilities of Lightroom are certainly superior to Elements 6, while the cost is reasonable.
*(IOW, if you have to learn something new anyway, why not learn something that can expand your capabilities by a considerable margin.)
The product that formerly was called Bibble is now Corel AfterShot Pro. It has both asset management and photo image processing in it. All of the processing is non-destructive and it can work directly on a raw image. It's a lot less expensive ($50) than Lightroom and there are quite a few free plugins for it. I did use Bibble quite a while ago and it is actually a very good product. But in the end I would rather use Lightroom for photo images. There just seem to be a lot more sources of information on how to do things with Lightroom than every was for Bibble.
Adobe has said they were going to look at a less costly alternative to the CC for 'togs who use only Photoshop and Lightroom, but as of yet the haven't been any specifics.
I think there are two things working against it though. One is that it seems CC has been very successful for Adobe so I'm not sure they feel much pressure to try to make and maintain a less costly alternative.
The second is that even if Adobe did come up with an alternative it still would be more costly than buying PS6 and upgrading once every 5 years or so.
My 2008 iMac was laid to rest this week. I had the Adobe Elements 6 on it and I am finding out the Elements history from 6 to the current 11 hasn't been an improvement. The 11 is more like iPhoto. Grrr So what is similar to Elements 6? Photoshop CC. So let's do the math... I purchased Elements 6 in 2008 for maybe $125.00. Today to use Photoshop CC for five years it would cost me $1,199.40 or I could purchase the CS6 for $699.00 for the life of this new computer. Does anyone have suggestions for other developers that create similar products? I agree CC stands fro "Cash Cow"
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If I'm happy enough with CS5 on disk, will I still be good working with it, saving and storing layered images as .psd, image manipulation and all that? Or do they put the voodoo on my existing software and files.
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You can still buy CS6 as a disk with a perpetual licence. But at this stage, Adobe are saying it will be the last version available on disk. Also any new features will not be updated to CS6 users ... only the Creative Cloud will get updated to new features.
(Adobe have said that they will supply patches for CS6 for some time - can't remember their exact working)
www.acecootephotography.com
Yea, I see that I can buy CS6 for the full retail price. But I have CS5 and only need an upgrade, which does not appear to be an option. Looks like choice is to purchase it at full price or sign up for perpetual payments, so long-standing customers who have continued to up-grade are SOL. Unless I'm missing something.
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Go to this page:
http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_creativesuite6.html?promoid=KFPRM
Choose either Photoshop CS6 or Photoshop CS6 Extended and click the "Buy" link. This should bring up some options including:
I want to buy: "Full"
... is default, but if you click the little down arrow you can select "Upgrade".
When you choose the "Upgrade" option and the product you are upgrading from you should see CS6 Upgrade for US $199.00 and US $399.00 for PS CS6 Extended Upgrade.
Does this make sense?
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Now my only concern is not getting it on disk? Me being old school, I ordered CS5 as an upgrade on disk and Adobe sent it. But I see at check-out it is only available as a download. So I'm concerned about being able to get CS6 again if I have computer problems or when I get a new computer. Guess I can always call Adobe and see what they say. Anybody have thoughts or experience with this?
In any case .... Thanks again, Ziggy.
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https://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model
Apparently there are over 30,000 signatories so far.
I just downloaded CC two days ago. It is for sure a "version 1.0" kind of experience, but I can see where this is going already. The big missing features right now are file syncing and Typekit. They are just place holders at the moment. A few of the "cloud only" offerings seem interesting as well. Adobe Muse reminds me of Microsoft's FrontPage, but done right (from a designers perspective). I might use it for small galleries or other specialized sites. I'm curious what other people think of the CC release. Anyone else using it?
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My feelings exactly...
If "Adobe Elements 6" was sufficient, you might try Adobe Lightroom. While the interface is completely different*, the basic capabilities of Lightroom are certainly superior to Elements 6, while the cost is reasonable.
*(IOW, if you have to learn something new anyway, why not learn something that can expand your capabilities by a considerable margin.)
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Adobe has said they were going to look at a less costly alternative to the CC for 'togs who use only Photoshop and Lightroom, but as of yet the haven't been any specifics.
I think there are two things working against it though. One is that it seems CC has been very successful for Adobe so I'm not sure they feel much pressure to try to make and maintain a less costly alternative.
The second is that even if Adobe did come up with an alternative it still would be more costly than buying PS6 and upgrading once every 5 years or so.
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