Should you like to place a wager on this I am available.
This isn't about me being right and you being wrong, although that is the case. It is about making sure many Dgrin users understand that they have not given up any rights.
While I couldn't find any Digital Grin terms of service, The Digital Grin website is owned by the same folks who own Smugmug.
Here is a portion of the SmugMug terms of service:
"You retain all intellectual property rights in and to any User Content you post, upload or otherwise make available through the Services, including the copyright in and to your Media. SmugMug does not claim any ownership, right, title or interest in and to your User Content. Notwithstanding the foregoing, by uploading and/or posting any User Content to the Site or otherwise by using the Services, you grant SmugMug a perpetual, nonexclusive and royalty-free right to use the User Content (and the user name that is submitted in connection with such User Content) as is reasonably necessary in order to enable SmugMug to provide the Services, including to display the User Content on the Services, to facilitate (at the Content Owner's direction) the license of Photos, or to process the sale of Products through the Services."
Lacking any contract to the contrary no person or organization can make any legitimate claims to your copyright. Again little dot is a period.
You must be right. I am just talking through a hole in my face. I have taken the steps necessary to protect my photographs from being copied from dgrin. That also means they no longer appear on dgrin either. The text I have contributed is of absolutely no consequence and I have nothing more to contribute at this time.
I just began filing my take down notices. Ugh. What a horrible process. And for each post here with photos embedded, I will need to make another filing. I just might begin attaching instead of embedding.
My Smugmug
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
I just began filing my take down notices. Ugh. What a horrible process. And for each post here with photos embedded, I will need to make another filing. I just might begin attaching instead of embedding.
It goes pretty fast once you get used to it . I've started looking for my stuff the next day every time I start a new thread and filing the appropriate complaint.
Well this certainly takes all the fun out of posting images.... Just submitted five removal requests to google. :-(
And none of my exif copyright information is there now. That's been stripped out.
You sure about that? The images they post appear to be hot-links to your original content, not copies.
Looking on their site, I see your picture here which has your EXIF info intact, exactly as it appears on your Smugmug site. http://digitalgrinphotography.blogspot.com/2014/10/first-tent-shots.html
I filed a complaint. According to Google's TOU, they will delete the account if they receive 10 reports. I mentioned in my notes that I am a moderator here and that they have been copying content Daily since February 2014 directly from dgrin.com and that I would like ALL dgrin content removed immediately. Don't know if anything will come from it. I am just a mod.
I did the same but Google isn't responding as quickly as hoped
I tried again yesterday to contact Google, hear after to be known as Digital Bigfoot, or DB for short.
Like Google's cousin the real "Bigfoot" many have claimed to have spotted him / her yet no
one has objective proof of his / her existence.
DB has left some interesting digital bits and pieces that many claim as proof of DB's existence yet who has actually spoken with or seen DB in person?
I have verified that DB does in fact have a phone number. Unfortunately once dialed you are in a DB created maze of confusion. Question after question, repeated pressing of various numbered keys, then
if you have waded through all this DB teases you into thinking your will be rewarded when told a customer rep will be with you shortly.
Fat chance.......................no one ever answers. crycry
They did respond in about a week to the first complaint I filed, but don't seem to have taken any action yet to five other complaints I filed later. It brings to mind the old Lily Tomlin Ernestine character:
You sure about that? The images they post appear to be hot-links to your original content, not copies.
Looking on their site, I see your picture here which has your EXIF info intact, exactly as it appears on your Smugmug site. http://digitalgrinphotography.blogspot.com/2014/10/first-tent-shots.html
Hmmm.... I use LR for post and export and have the metadata boxes checked. And on import I put in the IPTC area three fields of me, copyright info and use. So I've always assumed that's in the file on export since I tell it to bring it to the images on import to LR. But when I went back to look at the source image, the copyright info isn't there. So I bounced over to LR and sure enough, the copyright metadata shows my preset that contains all that info. Hmmm....
Edit to add:
And my stuff hasn't been taken down yet either now 10 days post request....
In response to my recent complaints, Google has just informed me that the site has been taken down. It seemed to have contained huge amounts of images and text from this site.
Also, as part of my campaign, I e-mailed four of the blog's advertisers, all photographers or retailers of photographic services or equipment, pointing out how they were paying for advertising and getting business at our expense. I never got a reply but they may now being looking for refunds. Oh joy!
If you believe this is in error and are still able to see the content at the URL(s) in question, please reply with additional information so we are able to investigate. If there was a mistake and the content is available at a different URL please file a new report.
Regards,
The Google Team
One hand doesn't seem to know that the other hand swatted it down.
My Smugmug
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
It's happening again here: Admin Edit: Blog thief's site link removed by Dgrin forum administrators and moderators.
My post from yesterday is up there along with probably other posts from here. And it is showing up on my SmugMug hits counter.
I will skim through this thread to see what I need to do on my end up but a heads up.
I wasn't sure if I should do a new thread or just bump this one so I just kept it in here.
It's happening again here: Admin Edit: Blog thief's site link removed by Dgrin forum administrators and moderators.
My post from yesterday is up there along with probably other posts from here. And it is showing up on my SmugMug hits counter.
I will skim through this thread to see what I need to do on my end up but a heads up.
I wasn't sure if I should do a new thread or just bump this one so I just kept it in here.
This looks like the same donkey.
We need to jump through some more flaming hoops and see if Google has sufficient brain power to see this guy and his postings for what they are.
Yep, little doubt. There aren't any ads yet, but there weren't any when the last one first started.
Personally, I find it frustrating that there doesn't seem to be any way to get Google to pay attention to systematic content farming. They make reference to some "instructions above," but these are no where to be found. I suppose I'll file complaints, but TBH, it's really more a matter of principle than a business concern. This asshat is not trying to sell our pics, but rather is just running a ad-click scam using our stuff as bait.
I just sent in a take down complaint notice along with:
This is an add I posted on Digital Grin, a photography forum. This blogger, Muslim, appears to be the same person I along with many other Digital Grin forum members complained about starting about Nov 2014 and was taken down in Dec 2014.
The entire site called "Vision Mobile" is comprised of auto snatching and re-posting of images and text exclusively from the Digital Grin forum.
If you look at this bloggers site you will see it is simply auto re-posting posts from other legitimate forums.
Please take this site down and prevent the user from recreating the blog site under a new name.
It is identical to the previous one, only the url changed.
That is a good move, Sam. I have replied to one of the take-down notification e-mails from Google last time, saying that the identical thing is happening and giving the blog address.
I can't make and official complaints today but my images are there.
Sheesh. What a pain. Again. Thanks, TLD, for noticing this and posting here. And people keep asking me why I bother to watermark all my photos I put up in posts. This is the reason.
My Smugmug
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
No problem, I only caught it because once every few weeks I get curious what pings my SmugMug account.
Least I can do is let everyone know (and submit a copyright infringement form at Google) because it kinda irks me to see the content get copied.
I've been removing watermarks in images I post here so it doesn't detract for any critiquing (my 'marks are a bit larger) but I'll probably just keep the watermarked ones just in case. It's easier for me that way anyways.
No problem, I only caught it because once every few weeks I get curious what pings my SmugMug account.
Least I can do is let everyone know (and submit a copyright infringement form at Google) because it kinda irks me to see the content get copied.
I've been removing watermarks in images I post here so it doesn't detract for any critiquing (my 'marks are a bit larger) but I'll probably just keep the watermarked ones just in case. It's easier for me that way anyways.
I also have filled in a copyright infringement form as they snatched two of my images from Digrin yesterday or today.
Comments
Should you like to place a wager on this I am available.
This isn't about me being right and you being wrong, although that is the case.
While I couldn't find any Digital Grin terms of service, The Digital Grin website is owned by the same folks who own Smugmug.
Here is a portion of the SmugMug terms of service:
"You retain all intellectual property rights in and to any User Content you post, upload or otherwise make available through the Services, including the copyright in and to your Media. SmugMug does not claim any ownership, right, title or interest in and to your User Content.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, by uploading and/or posting any User Content to the Site or otherwise by using the Services, you grant SmugMug a perpetual, nonexclusive and royalty-free right to use the User Content (and the user name that is submitted in connection with such User Content) as is reasonably necessary in order to enable SmugMug to provide the Services, including to display the User Content on the Services, to facilitate (at the Content Owner's direction) the license of Photos, or to process the sale of Products through the Services."
Lacking any contract to the contrary no person or organization can make any legitimate claims to your copyright. Again little dot is a period.
Sam
And none of my exif copyright information is there now. That's been stripped out.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
I think Google is letting the bots take care of this., ether that or they are too busy counting their money.
Sam
Looking on their site, I see your picture here which has your EXIF info intact, exactly as it appears on your Smugmug site. http://digitalgrinphotography.blogspot.com/2014/10/first-tent-shots.html
Link to my Smugmug site
I did the same but Google isn't responding as quickly as hoped
Moderator of: Location, Location, Location , Mind Your Own Business & Other Cool Shots
Like Google's cousin the real "Bigfoot" many have claimed to have spotted him / her yet no
one has objective proof of his / her existence.
DB has left some interesting digital bits and pieces that many claim as proof of DB's existence yet who has actually spoken with or seen DB in person?
I have verified that DB does in fact have a phone number. Unfortunately once dialed you are in a DB created maze of confusion. Question after question, repeated pressing of various numbered keys, then
if you have waded through all this DB teases you into thinking your will be rewarded when told a customer rep will be with you shortly.
Fat chance.......................no one ever answers.
So the question remains does DB exist??
Sam
They did respond in about a week to the first complaint I filed, but don't seem to have taken any action yet to five other complaints I filed later. It brings to mind the old Lily Tomlin Ernestine character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHgUN_95UAw
That was from almost 40 years ago. As the French saying goes, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Hmmm.... I use LR for post and export and have the metadata boxes checked. And on import I put in the IPTC area three fields of me, copyright info and use. So I've always assumed that's in the file on export since I tell it to bring it to the images on import to LR. But when I went back to look at the source image, the copyright info isn't there. So I bounced over to LR and sure enough, the copyright metadata shows my preset that contains all that info. Hmmm....
Edit to add:
And my stuff hasn't been taken down yet either now 10 days post request....
Harold
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
Ooops...hope that wasn't a copyright infringement.
Sam
Also, as part of my campaign, I e-mailed four of the blog's advertisers, all photographers or retailers of photographic services or equipment, pointing out how they were paying for advertising and getting business at our expense. I never got a reply but they may now being looking for refunds. Oh joy!
Harold
One hand doesn't seem to know that the other hand swatted it down.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
I only got the review one, one copy for each of the 25 images I complained about individually, and no mention of date.
Harold
Admin Edit: Blog thief's site link removed by Dgrin forum administrators and moderators.
My post from yesterday is up there along with probably other posts from here. And it is showing up on my SmugMug hits counter.
I will skim through this thread to see what I need to do on my end up but a heads up.
I wasn't sure if I should do a new thread or just bump this one so I just kept it in here.
www.motoception.com
This looks like the same donkey.
We need to jump through some more flaming hoops and see if Google has sufficient brain power to see this guy and his postings for what they are.
Off to post a complaint to Google.
Sam
Personally, I find it frustrating that there doesn't seem to be any way to get Google to pay attention to systematic content farming. They make reference to some "instructions above," but these are no where to be found. I suppose I'll file complaints, but TBH, it's really more a matter of principle than a business concern. This asshat is not trying to sell our pics, but rather is just running a ad-click scam using our stuff as bait.
This is an add I posted on Digital Grin, a photography forum. This blogger, Muslim, appears to be the same person I along with many other Digital Grin forum members complained about starting about Nov 2014 and was taken down in Dec 2014.
The entire site called "Vision Mobile" is comprised of auto snatching and re-posting of images and text exclusively from the Digital Grin forum.
If you look at this bloggers site you will see it is simply auto re-posting posts from other legitimate forums.
Please take this site down and prevent the user from recreating the blog site under a new name.
That is a good move, Sam. I have replied to one of the take-down notification e-mails from Google last time, saying that the identical thing is happening and giving the blog address.
I can't make and official complaints today but my images are there.
Harold
www.motoception.com
This is a new one...please send them one for this new site.
Sam
www.motoception.com
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
Least I can do is let everyone know (and submit a copyright infringement form at Google) because it kinda irks me to see the content get copied.
I've been removing watermarks in images I post here so it doesn't detract for any critiquing (my 'marks are a bit larger) but I'll probably just keep the watermarked ones just in case. It's easier for me that way anyways.
www.motoception.com