The Great 500mm Shootout - Canon vs. Nikon

AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
edited March 25, 2006 in Cameras
Ian, Harry and I will be conducting a formal shootout in Florida at the end of February - just prior to PMA.

Canon's 500 f/4L
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vs.

Nikon's 500 f/4
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We will strictly follow the THREE R's.

Rules
Regulations
and Ribs. :eat

Details to follow.

Just wanted y'all to know :deal

EDIT: the conclusion is here:
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  • RohirrimRohirrim Registered Users Posts: 1,889 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    Cool. I'll be interested in seeing the shots. I've been extremely happy with my Canon 500 since I've gotten it.

    Wish I could be there. Don't suppose you'd want to do something on the other side of the Country mwink.gif
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 21, 2006
    wow, that's a lot of glass.

    did I say wow?
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  • cmasoncmason Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    Don't you need a permit or something to handle those? rolleyes1.gif
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    And the best part of the shoot is that Andy is carrying the glass around for Ian and myself. Since we will be doing the shooting Andy will have to do something useful. biggrinbounce2.gif
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited January 21, 2006
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  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Ian, Harry and I will be conducting a formal shootout in Florida at the end of February - just prior to PMA. Just wanted y'all to know.
    There'll be a lot of interest in this. Have you agreed the format? Are suggestions invited?
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,237 moderator
    edited January 21, 2006
    W.W. Webster wrote:
    There'll be a lot of interest in this. Have you agreed the format? Are suggestions invited?

    Format? rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Andy seems to have an "anything goes" style these days.
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  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Format? Andy seems to have an "anything goes" style these days.
    It was the reference to a "formal" shootout that I particularly noticed. I'm sure they will adopt a very practical approach, but hopefully they will be wanting to come to some conclusions (not necessarily, agreement!).
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Format? rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Andy seems to have an "anything goes" style these days.


    lol3.gif

    We will strictly follow the THREE R's.

    Rules
    Regulations
    and Ribs.

    Details to follow.
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited January 21, 2006
    Are you both going to use the same sensor size??? :):




    Oh, that's right, there is no full frame Nikon sensor. eek7.gif




    I guess you'll have to use a 20D Andy!thumb.gif




    But wait!! That is a consumer grade Canon AF, versus Harry's pro grade Nikon focusing mechanism?



    How is this going to work out? ne_nau.gif



    Inquiring minds want to knowlol3.giflol3.giflol3.gif
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    Andy wrote:
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    We will strictly follow the THREE R's.

    Rules
    Regulations
    and Ribs.

    Details to follow.

    How about we eat some ribs for lunch, go out and do some shooting, have some ribs for supper, knock back a few Coronas and then repeat the process the next day.

    However gets the least rib sauce on his glass is the winner.
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  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    lol3.gif We will strictly follow the THREE R's.

    Rules
    Regulations
    and Ribs.

    Details to follow.
    So there's a chance you will agree about something, then!
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    pathfinder wrote:
    Are you both going to use the same sensor size??? :):

    Oh, that's right, there is no full frame Nikon sensor. eek7.gif

    I guess you'll have to use a 20D Andy!thumb.gif

    But wait!! That is a consumer grade Canon AF, versus Harry's pro grade Nikon focusing mechanism?

    How is this going to work out? ne_nau.gif

    Inquiring minds want to knowlol3.giflol3.giflol3.gif

    lol3.gif

    Well, we'll have:

    Canon 5D
    Canon 1D Mark II
    Canon 20D

    to pit against Harry's
    Nikon D2H and D2X (?)

    I'm right now working out Harry's handicap factor, we don't want to make him look too bad naughty.gif
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    How is this going to work out? ne_nau.gif



    Inquiring minds want to knowlol3.giflol3.giflol3.gif


    We will have to figure which cameras to use. I have the D100, D2h and the D2X. I'm sure that Andy and Ian have a number of bodies to choose from also. Now the body issue alone will make the lens test meaningless. What if I opt to shoot with the 4 MP D2h against one of their megapixel monsters?

    Then if we use remotes to trip the shutter release that will have an impact. Then there is the questions of tripods.

    In the end we will have some pics. the Canon folks will declare the Canon the winner and the Nikon folks will declare the Nikon the winner.
    All in all it means nada. It will be a lot of fun though.

    Andy and Ian don't stand a chance. Through the use of adversion therapy I have trained the gators to attack white lenses. I see some rare photo ops for myself in the near future. :D
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited January 22, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    ...... Through the use of adversion therapy I have trained the gators to attack white lenses. I see some rare photo ops for myself in the near future. :D


    Harry, that is why my lenses are taped with camo tape - just to forestall your trained gators!!:D :D
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  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Handicap factor? Really?
    Andy wrote:
    I'm right now working out Harry's handicap factor, we don't want to make him look too bad
    But this is a 'major' - played 'off the stick' from the 'tiger' tees.

    Harry wouldn't want to be accepting shots and shooting from the ladies' tees, surely!
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    W.W. Webster wrote:
    But this is a 'major' - played 'off the stick' from the 'tiger' tees.

    Harry wouldn't want to be accepting shots and shooting from the ladies' tees, surely!

    Sure I'll take any edge I can get. My main edge is that I'm gonna fool them. I'm going to shoot sober. They will never expect that. rolleyes1.gif
    Harry
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  • SeamusSeamus Registered Users Posts: 1,573 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    Sure I'll take any edge I can get. My main edge is that I'm gonna fool them. I'm going to shoot sober. They will never expect that. rolleyes1.gif

    rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
  • FatNakedGuyFatNakedGuy Registered Users Posts: 116 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    How much does one of these badboys cost? (Canon)
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    FatNakedGuy wrote:
    How much does one of these badboys cost? (Canon)
    $5499.95 USD is rack rate from B&H.
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited January 22, 2006
    FatNakedGuy wrote:
    How much does one of these badboys cost? (Canon)
    Let's just say you could get a perfectly good slightly used car for the same amount.
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  • FatNakedGuyFatNakedGuy Registered Users Posts: 116 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Thanks guys! Looks like i'll be saving my pennies for a while!
  • Lee MasseyLee Massey Registered Users Posts: 274 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Wow, I didn't know that PMA will be in Orlando. I just happen to be visiting Florida the last week in February. Very interesting... I just might have to check it out.

    Try not to get any Corona or rib sauce on the lenses. :D

    Let me know if you need a spare sherpa. thumb.gif

    Lee
    Andy wrote:
    Ian, Harry and I will be conducting a formal shootout in Florida at the end of February - just prior to PMA.

    Canon's 500 f/4L


    vs.

    Nikon's 500 f/4L


    We will strictly follow the THREE R's.

    Rules
    Regulations
    and Ribs. :eat

    Details to follow.

    Just wanted y'all to know deal.gif
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Why is the Canon lens longer than the Nikon???

    ginger
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Why is the Canon lens longer than the Nikon???

    ginger

    'cause Andy's is bigger than Harry's.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    rutt wrote:
    'cause Andy's is bigger than Harry's.


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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Why is the Canon lens longer than the Nikon???

    ginger

    Its called compensation. mwink.gif
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Might want to check those specs again....

    Nikon 500 f/4
    Length 15.6"


    Canon 500 f/4
     Length 15.2"
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Red Bull wrote:
    Might want to check those specs again....

    Nikon 500 f/4
    Length 15.6"


    Canon 500 f/4
    Length 15.2"

    Don't bother us with your damn specs. Ginger said its longer so its longer!!!
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2006
    Don't be angry that in reality it's you that's compensating.blbl.gif
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