*challenge 24 ginger,comments please

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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Misty Evening/Blurry Evening
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    One of these is done with a fog gradient and soft light, the other is done with G blur and soft light........that is the basic difference.

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    It is grey cloudy, dull outside. I had hopes for today. One more thing to try, and I can't do it by myself. Nor can I do it without sun, I don't think. It is a sun type thing. AGGGHHHH!

    ginger (This one below is the first one I put up, maybe I should just accept it.????)

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    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:

    One of these is done with a fog gradient and soft light, the other is done with G blur and soft light........that is the basic difference.

    It is grey cloudy, dull outside. I had hopes for today. One more thing to try, and I can't do it by myself. Nor can I do it without sun, I don't think. It is a sun type thing. AGGGHHHH!

    ginger (This one below is the first one I put up, maybe I should just accept it.????)
    I like this one... the middle one. Now Ginger... I know this is gonna be impossible for you to live with but LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!! GINGER.... LEAVE IT ALONErolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
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  • SandySandy Registered Users Posts: 762 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Have to agree, what a beautiful landscape, very soothing colors.
    lynnma wrote:
    I like this one... the middle one. Now Ginger... I know this is gonna be impossible for you to live with but LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!! GINGER.... LEAVE IT ALONErolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Are you actually suggesting I can stay home and sleep a bit today?? Was frantically trying to figure out where to get a pleasing grey landscape..........like on the ground??


    Oh, I bought a Kelby book on CS Killer Tips, I think that was it, at a discount store and it has info in three places on layers and locking and unlocking, same problem I have been having. Had to put back a novel to get it, but that will save me mega time. Probably has some other obvious stuff in it, too.

    I figured out how to find the photo, put it up. Thanks,

    ginger (my husband says he likes it, too.)
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    That, I thought, might be, the one I put up early in my endeavers last night, Kate said she liked it. I got myself in really weird country later, so went back to try to get the Aussie Kate one. Now I have to find it again, lol. I know it is not in the weird stuff and not in the first stuff.

    Oh, have to ask.

    Does it need straightening on the horizon at all? Promise I will not touch it, not unless instructed, heck don't know which one not to touch. But I have been wondering whether it was level. Hate those things that might be a tad, or might not.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ishish Registered Users Posts: 70 Big grins
    edited October 24, 2004
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    This new one, this is "the one" for me. That gradient filter did woners, it looks amazing!
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    ish wrote:
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    This new one, this is "the one" for me. That gradient filter did woners, it looks amazing!
    This isn't the gradient filter, though I love using that. This is the use of layers, to duplicate layer to Gaussein Blur, to Soft Light mode. Plus I think I lightened a few things a tad, just for realism (tops of the marsh grass). I actually think that the first thing I did was select, with the polygonal tool, the sky, then actually selected everything else and lightened it a bit, perhaps using the brighten and contrast tool. That was the sky stayed dark, but some of the stuff important to me became more visible. Oh, I also upped some of the colors, don't remember, am sure yellow would have been one, and blue, but the cyan really helped the reflection in the water. I wouldn't want anyone trying to do something like this and wondering why just the blur and the soft light wasn't working. I work like I am painting when I am doing post. It is not a lot, sometimes three steps, including the sharpening USM, but sometimes a few other things come into play. I don't write them down, just dabble here and there.

    The blur to Vivid Light mode was in a tutorial when I first joined, so it is somewhere around here. I try both, but end up using soft light more.

    Thanks, ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    He Lived In A House By The Sea
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    Photography by ginger
    October 10, 2004
    Sullivan's Island, SC
    Looking out to the Atlantic Ocean
    From Breach Inlet
    The round house, it was there when nothing else was.
    When I moved to that island in 1984.

    (I forgot I took these, I wanted to capture the yellow flowers. Since I did not get them in glory, I did not try to work them up, these photos I mean.
    I did a lot of photography that afternoon, after church which ends at 12:30.
    Amazing.)

    It reminds me of the painting of Andrew Wyeth, or Jamie, one of them, and I love their work. So now I have a quandary again.

    I used the blur and aggressively used vived light, I chose to leave it at about 75% giving the photo a painterly wild look, that is how I see it. ????

    g
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Looking Across Breach Inlet: Photography by ginger
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    I took this the same afternoon, Sunday Oct 10, 2004. Thank gosh for fall colors, huh, smile. I park there sometimes and go down to see what opportunities might be there for a photographer. I used to go to the other side, for awhile I lived on that island, too. This time there were the fisher people. I sat on the beach and took some pictures. That is when I took the picture of the little sandpiper. It is a nice place. This is a new bridge in the last couple of years. I thought I would hate it, just a part of the landscape now.

    g
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited October 24, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Thanks, Pathfinder, I agree.

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    What about that g blur shot. I am concerned about it looking fake.
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    I think this lovely - Has it been processed? - yes - but I find it lovely and not distracting at all. thumb.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
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    I think this lovely - Has it been processed? - yes - but I find it lovely and not distracting at all. thumb.gif
    Thank you, Pathfinder. I am getting rather fond of it myself. That puts me with three photos I am fond of. This is the one I have struggled with all week, my daughter loves it, I have had positive comments........... I imagine I will use it, and I do like it more and more........ I did raise one discerning daughter, if not two. Now, me, I just take the pictures, Laughing.gif.

    g

    I should buy bunches of calenders to use my shots. I wish more were in black and white. Even with all those years of taking black and white, I don't think in terms of light enough.

    Did you see what the next thing is going to be... Now I really don't think that way when it comes to photography. I like my subjects down, out and sad. If they are a kid that way it makes it even better. But I don't pinch them or anything, I just have to see it........... but anything else with a camera.

    I have two ideas, both set ups.
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • dragon300zxdragon300zx Registered Users Posts: 2,575 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Ginger personally I like the third option that looks like the ski is pink (mainly cause I like the clouds) the most. But I can see why everyone else likes option 2 as well.
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  • FreeUpsFreeUps Registered Users Posts: 135 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Thank you, Pathfinder. I am getting rather fond of it myself. That puts me with three photos I am fond of. This is the one I have struggled with all week, my daughter loves it, I have had positive comments........... I imagine I will use it, and I do like it more and more........ I did raise one discerning daughter, if not two. Now, me, I just take the pictures, Laughing.gif.

    g

    I should buy bunches of calenders to use my shots. I wish more were in black and white. Even with all those years of taking black and white, I don't think in terms of light enough.

    Did you see what the next thing is going to be... Now I really don't think that way when it comes to photography. I like my subjects down, out and sad. If they are a kid that way it makes it even better. But I don't pinch them or anything, I just have to see it........... but anything else with a camera.

    I have two ideas, both set ups.

    Ginger, my vote is on this one as well. Simply beautiful!

    It's a weird thing though, I was originally going to say that I would play around with the sky a bit. So, with that comment, I saved the picture and opened it up in photoshop. BUT NOW, The sky is perfect, the colors are different. It's so much better in PS.

    It kinda makes me worry though. I wonder why it is displaying so different for me in Safari (worse) than it is in photoshop (wayyyy bettter).

    Anyone got suggestions?

    Its already a winner Ginger
    Marshall
    No time for the old in-out, love, I've just come to read the meter
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    I could go back and look, not that I would dare touch it, I have to follow Lynn's advice once and see how that goes. Then it is all her fault, and I read that she is going to Arizona. When she is gone............

    No, I will leave it, probably.

    Are you talking the third option on that "shot"? I didn't touch the sky. I don't like to use technical language, mostly because it confuses me. But I think I used a mask to protect the sky. I put the marching ants around the sky, then I inverted that so that everything but the sky got the treatment, well, I guess the sky got some at the end, but it was not lightened or anything. Those vivid modes are really contrast things, I think, and maybe they got to the sky a bit.

    If I ever do it from the beginning again, I will erase that from the sky next time. It should not be that different. Really what I did was geared to lighten the top of the marsh grass a bit. It is a pretty gold, kind of, and I wanted to try to not have it look so blah. Then the green weed was bothering me in the front, I am not sure what I did, but the weed doesn't bother me as much..
    I worried about something else for awhile. The water turned a nice reflective color of the sky when I added some cyan, maybe that makes the actual sky look lighter.???

    ginger, thanks for commenting.
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    FreeUps wrote:
    Ginger, my vote is on this one as well. Simply beautiful!

    It's a weird thing though, I was originally going to say that I would play around with the sky a bit. So, with that comment, I saved the picture and opened it up in photoshop. BUT NOW, The sky is perfect, the colors are different. It's so much better in PS.

    It kinda makes me worry though. I wonder why it is displaying so different for me in Safari (worse) than it is in photoshop (wayyyy bettter).

    Anyone got suggestions?

    Its already a winner Ginger
    Marshall
    Thank you, Marshall. I personally do not think most of us are seeing the same thing, lol. If we spend the money and time to calibrate, then we might be seeing the same thing, but .........I know my monitor was seeing darker than Snappy's, so I turned it up lighter. My daughter's is a little brighter, and it is newer, too. Then my friend in DC, I can see why she was disappointed in prints she had made, her monitor is dark enough for serious eye strain.

    Now that shot I worked up, I think I did, in SRGB, I brought it down here that way, I think, or not. That might worry me. I brought down to smugmug last night. Baldy has a whole explanation for this. I am sure it is around somewhere, but I am not sure where.

    It is interesting......... And it does have ramifications, I will check to see what that is.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 24, 2004
    Marshall, et al. I went and found exactly which version of that photo I had used. I could tell you the numbers, but they wouldn't mean anything to you. Most of the EXIF info was gone from that one, version 4, and I don't know why. The way it was feeling when I moved it around to match it up with the one down here, well I worried whether I had ever flattened it. So I put it in layers, pretended to mess with it, then "flattened" it. It is possible that it was never flattened????

    What I was concerned about was to make sure I had sent it down here as sRGB.
    I have Adobe set back on it now, I would forget otherwise. Since I did that only half way through last night, I thought maybe it had not gotten changed. Then it would definitely, as I understand it, look worse down here. I did make sure this time that it did say sRGB when I saved it. I uploaded that one to smugmug, brought it over here, it is next to the "other" one on this thread. I replaced the one on the challenge with the "new" version. And I wrote in the back of a Kelby book how to find it again.

    Now why that sky looks a little less pink, and I still do see pink, but the sky was not involved in the lightening of the grass top, the increase in some saturations, etc. But it was involved in the blur and soft light mode in layers.
    I am going to assume that just like any contrast thing it did make the light part of the sky lighter. I guess that was a trade off. Maybe I could have masked it then, too.

    A lesson learned. The layers blur and soft light does really help the photo, I think, and if I had to choose I would do it over again. I will see if I can be more protective of anything I do not want to put through a contrast situation, next time.

    Did anyone get to watch that new housewives TV show??? I have wanted to see it since it started. I finished that picture, looked up, my husband was going to bed, and I totally missed the show. And so it goes.

    I don't understand why they put different numbers on them here, it makes it difficult for me as I am not savvy on that stuff. I had to finally eyeball them, I know that in the end I got the correct one, but it was work. I don't want numbers displayed, but I would like to be able to get to the same number I have in my files.

    Thanks for alerting me on that sky. If you get to read this, let me know if it looks any better to you. I can't do any more now without risking the photo, if it came down here as an sRGB, then I don't know why you had trouble, if it didn't..............well that is it right there.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2004
    Colours: Low Country Marsh photography by ginger
    This is something I have wanted to do for a long time. I saw a painting once just of color, it was a Charleston marsh. I had the opportunity today, Oct 25th, to take some photos of the marsh. I did not know how they would work, I am quite pleased. ginger


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    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2004
    After The Sunset photography by ginger
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    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 25, 2004
    Marsh Grass (mini scape) photography by ginger
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    Kind of interesting how I did the color. Desaturated some color. Saturated yellow and green. Went to selective colors, saturated some black in to add back delineation, then I added white to turn the background a consistent color, or I should say a consistent "non color".

    g
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    Breach Inlet, IOP Side: photography by ginger 10/25
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    This side erodes, grows backs, always changing seascape.

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    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
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    This side erodes, grows backs, always changing seascape.

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    Lovely shots here. The the boats in the sunset, the marsh and the beach shots. Love them all. Mostly the boats. Hey, did you know it's 2am where you are. I'm going to bed now, eleven is late enough for me. mwink.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    Please help me choose between these two.....g
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    Between these two, plus rules on sunsets.......

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    Maybe break down the criteria, like we were judging, might help some others of us.

    On topic?
    Execution?

    and what else?

    g
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • SandySandy Registered Users Posts: 762 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    Ginger I see your dilemma they are both great shots. I really like the boats in the sunset, but I also like the colors on the other one. ne_nau.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,948 moderator
    edited October 26, 2004
    Ginger,

    I sure hope you pick the second shot for the challenge. Really, I do.
    It's a great example of a landscape.

    Earlier, I'd suggested a shot that had a better sky. But this one has
    the better sky and seems more balanced. As others have said, the cat tales
    and grass help draw you in to the picture. In a single word, the scene is
    inviting.

    Ian
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  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
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    Between these two, plus rules on sunsets.......

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    Maybe break down the criteria, like we were judging, might help some others of us.

    On topic?
    Execution?

    and what else?

    g

    Ginger,
    I love your sunset with the boats. And, it is a landscape. However, of the two, the second one is much more pleasing to the eye. The marsh grasses are prettier. The light is prettier. The sky is more interesting. The composition is so much more flowing. I definitely prefer the marsh.
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 26, 2004
    Thanks Sandy, Ian and Snappy, that is the stuff I needed. Anyone else please leave a comment, too.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2004
    Ginger, you have a bunch of extremely nice shots, I'd be proud to have made any of them. Especially these:

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    You've done more post processing to the first one, and it's paid off. To be honest, Ginger, you're at the point when you should decide which to submit, rather than having a poll before the official poll! naughty.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    Ginger, you have a bunch of extremely nice shots, I'd be proud to have made any of them. Especially these:


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    You've done more post processing to the first one, and it's paid off. To be honest, Ginger, you're at the point when you should decide which to submit, rather than having a poll before the official poll! naughty.gif
    Funny, Sid! Thanks for commenting though. And I like the shot that you picked out there. I mean I really like it, and I never expected anyone to notice it.

    As far as my poll is concerned, I am just innocently asking for comments. I am really very close to the subjects.......I mean the photographs.

    Kind of one of those things like asking someone if they could only save one person from drowning, would it be their kid or their spouse. Never could answer that one......can now, lol, but can't decide on the photographs.

    I even saw something about judging your own photographs in a Freeman Patterson book last night. Was no help, just said he had his students do it.

    Maybe we should have a tutorial on objective ways to to choose, or evaluate, one's own photography, especially when they are all good, or bad.

    I did a lot in post on that one photograph, because I did not really like the photograph. I am partial, just me, to not liking "green". So it was quite difficult for me to accept that one as my entry. I made it where I liked it, everyone else already did. I have looked at it a gazillion times, and I do like it now. Something pulls me, and others, I guess, to that photograph. I was thinking last night, it is the cat tail. I loved cat tails as a kid, just one cat tail probably sets that photograph up to be liked. (More cat tails would not have the subtle emotional impact that lets your eye wander around the photo, more would make the cat tails the subject, one, well one of anything is special.)

    But I like the others, too, am quite proud of them. The fact that you did not gravitate to the one that was my husband's favorite helps me a lot. Except for the marsh grass, oooooh I think the workup, very little, but what was, is sooo cool, I love it, but the others are obvious shots, don't have the pull of a cat tail, lol.

    Thanks so much Sid, have about talked myself into which I should enter, also. And I am sooo glad that someone else likes my marsh grass.

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    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2004
    Oh, yes, and the marsh grass might be cool, but it is less obvious that it is a landscape. In fact, there are other categories it would fit in better. Am glad I did it, though. Have been wanting my own marsh grass for years. It is not as easy as it looks.

    g
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
    Oh, yes, and the marsh grass might be cool, but it is less obvious that it is a landscape. In fact, there are other categories it would fit in better. Am glad I did it, though. Have been wanting my own marsh grass for years. It is not as easy as it looks.

    g

    Hi Ginger,
    That's the boat picture I like the best! I like all of these. Funny about the marsh grass. I never would have thought of working it up like that. That's what makes it special in my mind. I would have left it green with natural water. Then it would have been ordinary. I like the way your creative ideas work.
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