That was a good read PF....ta. Is there someplace we can all go when this becomes too much for our familys ?
My name is Humungus & im a lens addict.
At first i picked up a Kodak 2.1 mp cx 4230 3 years ago...there was no apparent problen back then... just point & shoot.
I then convinced my self that the 5 mp Olympus could juuuuuuuust help that little bit more with low light shots & the family backed me 100%.
Things went down hill from there...i said over & over that i didnt need a DSLR or any fancy shmancy lens's to go with it. I was talking in a News Group & someone posted photos of those long white canon lens's.
Now i find myself loitering daily through glass manufacturers sites & clearing my search history before the family come home. I keep the curtains drawn & now believe that the people downstairs have listening devices & cameras in my unit....Im not eating & my skin is turning a pasty white...
Think how much cheaper in life things could be if you only could rent instead of buy.
i'm slowly drifting into wanting primes. i have the 35 f/1.4, the 50 f/1.4, and now the 85 f/1.8. at a minimum i'm considering the 200L f/2.8 - also a really good bargain (relatively speaking)! but damn - that 200 f/1.8 whooo boy
Tks andy/PF & all others that offered advice.
No way im going to buy 'half' a camera so some good quality 'normal' stuff will do til i get famous.
Judging from the rate some of us go through equipment, I'd have to say we're all just renting anyway.
So the drebel has a very good AF system and image engine. Cheap too. It should carry you while you stock up on good glass. Then, some day, you'll cough up for a better body, and still have the good glass to use on it (assuming you stay with Canon).
Personally, I'd skip the PlastiRebel and go straight for a used 10D. Or if you're feeling flush, just go for the 20D. Or a 1Ds Mark II. Oh hell...just take out another mortgage and get one of each.
Hope that helps...
Whats the other name for a 10D ? I cant find any info. The only 10D they talk about in DP Review is around $6K..
Do you mean another camera fish ?
Ah...thats it...tks andy. Something has to give here soon. I recon i might look for a second hand DSLR at 1st as there are plenty of people upgrading with all the new stuff coming out.
Dont laugh...i was looking at a sigma 800 mm before & thought .."hmmm $1100 is ok for a lens that big" then i realised that i had missed a zero in the price !
get your money ready, and keep monitoring fred miranda's buy/sell forum. there are always used equipment coming up for sale there daily. 10d's are selling for 8 or 9 hund usd about now.
'mungus, if you see something on Fred Miranda and the seller won't do an overseas sale, I can act as your middleman.
Ta both of you...i may well take you up on that wax'd one. Will be buying in a month or 2.
yes, having other folks vouch for you helps in the transaction. i will be happy to act as a reference for you, and also to make sure that sid doesn't run off to ipanema with your new camera and lynnie
May wait until about feb to see what the D70's are doing....Very similar to the Rebel but that 1/8000 shutter has my interest.
imo, what you really should be thinking about is the system, not the body - bodies will come and go - but lenses and many accessories are forever.
both nikon and canon make great glass - there are differences in their lens lineups and you should investigate both carefully.
also - there's a big difference between ccd sensor nikon and cmos sensor canon images. here too, you should make a thorough investigation to see what you prefer. neither one is "better" than the other, but there are differences and you should be aware of that.
I really really want a 12x lens..period.
Michiel de Brieder wrote:
Well, the 35mm equivalent of the FZ-20 is 36-432. So what you are looking for is either
for Nikon lenses that cover:
36/1.5 - 432/1.5 (= 24 - 288 )
for Canon lenses that cover: (considering you'll opt for the D30/D60/10D/20D/300D)
36/1.6 - 432/1.6 (= 22,5 - 270 )
Now, about Nikon I know absolutely nothing I think there are some people who can help you with that. As for the Canon setup I'd suggest:
17-40 f/4 L
70-200 f/4 L
That'll do for starters and it will give you the same reach (a bit more even) as your FZ-20. You'd have to look around to see if it fits your budget!
Hope this helps a bit with your research!
I have received the DMC-FZ20 earlier than I thought. I will try to begin to upload some original frames from it in a few days, so that you can see the quality and decide for yourself if it will meet your needs. It looks nice in black, the lens is large, the body is plastic and feels like it. It is very light.
A review is here http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz20/
A camera you might consider, which has not been discussed here, is the new Nikon 8800 - which has a fast long lens and includes antishake technology in the body, similar to the A2 Minolta. The Nikon 8800 is an 8 Mgpixel camera and should have the nice Nikon color quality and a high quality Nikon lens. It is selling here in the US for $999. I have thought about one a travel camera on a bike - It uses an electronic viewfinder
The reviewer's are saying it is much better than the 8700 Nikon which did not get great reviews. Lots to think about. You can read about it here -http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikoncp8800/
Michiel de Brieder wrote:
don't I know
My first setup (cost me all my money at the time + 3 months pay-off ) was a 2nd hand D30 + 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 + 38mm f/2.8 and the vertical grip. Boy was that a feast!!! Now I have a 20D + grip + the 2 L-lenses I mentioned before and the 50 f/1.4 along with some storage (external device 40 GB + CF cards) 2 tripods, 3 bags and so on and so forth DSLR disease is BAAAAAAAD but it's fun!
Have fun / good luck making your choices