I just like the idea of the 12 or 10x ready to go all the time though. I would never take a good quality lens with me...its just too rough as we make our own roads a lot of the time & really punish the vehicles. My lunch box sits beside me & takes up little room.
I just like the idea of the 12 or 10x ready to go all the time though. I would never take a good quality lens with me...its just too rough as we make our own roads a lot of the time & really punish the vehicles. My lunch box sits beside me & takes up little room.
I think a camera is only worth its use.
Is riding in the truck on the seat beside you any rougher than in the tank bag of a DR-650 on fire roads and mountain passes??........... That's where my 10D or my G5 went with me. I did not take expensive IS L glass - just a 28-200 Promaster - but it held up just fine and is still going strong.
Taken with a Canon G5 P&S
'gus - I have time to play for a while with the DMC-FZ20 that I gave my son for Christmas. It has some very nice features and the lens seems reasonably sharp. The sensor is they typical 2/3 s sensor of a P&S and suffers from noise at higher ISOs.
I have three images to share - My son shot them on a very overcast grey winter day ( I doubt you get weather this grey and dark in OZ - At least the tourist bureau says you don't! )
The first image is at the wide end of the zoom and the second is at the long end of the zoom. The third image is of a dog we saw in the park. The dog was shot playing in the snow immediately after the sun went behind the hill at sundown and it was a very flat grey light nad the dog suffers from noise in the brown pixels of his coat. This is not the file straight from the camera but the file created after color balancing and saving as a jpg.
Image #2 is a small portion on the end of the grey barn
f2.8 ISO 100 2560x1920 pixels 3/1000 sRGB 432mm 35Equiv
Image #3 dog in the snow sRGB
f2.8 ISO 100 1920x1080 ( sl cropped ) 1/800 194mm 35 equiv
Hope this information is helpful. I do like the ability to switch between the LCD and the EVF - but the LCD cannot be moved or rotated. I think this camera - like most 5 MPxl cameras can make great pictures, but you must use the sensor area fully - the ability to crop is limited.
The last image is the same canine - Sarah is her name - taken with a 20D so you can judge for yourself how the quality compares.
Image#4 f4.5 ISO 200 2044x2637- sl cropped 1/160th 75mm sRGB
I seem to have been stricken by a particularly virulent version of the Humungus sickness. I just ordered a Canon 70-200/2.8 IS. While I'm not particularly religious, I pray that this will quench my L-glass fever...at least for a few months.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I seem to have been stricken by a particularly virulent version of the Humungus sickness. I just ordered a Canon 70-200/2.8 IS. While I'm not particularly religious, I pray that this will quench my L-glass fever...at least for a few months.
Lunch on the river & a steamboat ride taken 5 mins ago.
Actually 'gus, I suggested digiscoping as an alternative to expensive telephoto lenses in an earlier post. Just google 'digiscoping' and you'll find all sorts of information about it. Digiscoping might actually work fairly well for surfing shots
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
You havnt got the ready on you to buy that sort of stuff anyway fish.
Visa, baby, visa.
If somebody would buy my other lenses, I'd be a lot closer to paying the bill. :cry
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
If you're going to be up for a while, I could swing by and show you
I'll be up for awhile. It's pretty damn wet, so wear yer goretex. You can play with my new Lionel 0-27 New York Flyer trainset that Santa brought.
Just be aware that you may not leave with everything you brought.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Brown brought my 70-200/2.8 IS this morning, so naturally, I couldn't wait to step outside and do the snappy-snap thing. Here's a sample (handheld, ISO100, 200mm, f2.8, 1/80s):
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
PF, man those guys are proud of their cases. They must figure if you
bought the lens, what's another $300...right? Lightware also makes
a case. It's about $215...
Wait 'till you find out about the drop in filters
ian
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nice one fishy. You'd think that was an affordable lens... I feel like everyone has one except for me!
Thanks. Considering it was more expensive than a 20D, you'd have to be made of money to consider it "affordable". So my kids will go hungry for a couple of months...no big deal.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
PF, man those guys are proud of their cases. They must figure if you
bought the lens, what's another $300...right? Lightware also makes
a case. It's about $215...
Wait 'till you find out about the drop in filters
ian
But now we are down to the 70-200 IS 2.8L which comes with a case and doesn't use drop in filters.
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Thanks. Considering it was more expensive than a 20D, you'd have to be made of money to consider it "affordable". So my kids will go hungry for a couple of months...no big deal.
Post some pix for the 'before' and in a couple of months, you can do the 'after'
shots
ian
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when i can't afford a lawn or kitchen appliances for my new house, I think I'll regret it
Lawns are overrated. You just need to keep watering and mowing them. Get some green paint and voila!
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Nice shot, David, I love the fine detail in the fur and the perfect exposure.
Thanks waxy. I wish it would clear up here...really dark, gray, cold and rainy. No fun shooting. Hopefully I'll turn in some better shots in the coming days and weeks.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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I think a camera is only worth its use.
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Is riding in the truck on the seat beside you any rougher than in the tank bag of a DR-650 on fire roads and mountain passes??........... That's where my 10D or my G5 went with me. I did not take expensive IS L glass - just a 28-200 Promaster - but it held up just fine and is still going strong.
Taken with a Canon G5 P&S
Taken with a 10D and a ProMaster 28-200
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And that is bad how?
I have three images to share - My son shot them on a very overcast grey winter day ( I doubt you get weather this grey and dark in OZ -
The first image is at the wide end of the zoom and the second is at the long end of the zoom. The third image is of a dog we saw in the park. The dog was shot playing in the snow immediately after the sun went behind the hill at sundown and it was a very flat grey light nad the dog suffers from noise in the brown pixels of his coat. This is not the file straight from the camera but the file created after color balancing and saving as a jpg.
Image #1 f2.8 ISO 100 2560x1920 pixels 1/1000 sRGB 35mm 35equiv
Image #2 is a small portion on the end of the grey barn
f2.8 ISO 100 2560x1920 pixels 3/1000 sRGB 432mm 35Equiv
Image #3 dog in the snow sRGB
f2.8 ISO 100 1920x1080 ( sl cropped ) 1/800 194mm 35 equiv
Hope this information is helpful. I do like the ability to switch between the LCD and the EVF - but the LCD cannot be moved or rotated. I think this camera - like most 5 MPxl cameras can make great pictures, but you must use the sensor area fully - the ability to crop is limited.
The last image is the same canine - Sarah is her name - taken with a 20D so you can judge for yourself how the quality compares.
Image#4 f4.5 ISO 200 2044x2637- sl cropped 1/160th 75mm sRGB
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becuase after that, you can buy this: heheheheheheh
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Andy..a canon EF 200mm f/1.8L is considered as porn in this forum. Please ban yourself !
Why did you have to show it to me ??
heheheh and it's only $3500 - $5000 for a roll in that hay
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ian
Lunch on the river & a steamboat ride taken 5 mins ago.
Actually 'gus, I suggested digiscoping as an alternative to expensive telephoto lenses in an earlier post. Just google 'digiscoping' and you'll find all sorts of information about it. Digiscoping might actually work fairly well for surfing shots
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You guys are NOT helping. :nono
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Stand back & watch guys...............
If somebody would buy my other lenses, I'd be a lot closer to paying the bill. :cry
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Just be aware that you may not leave with everything you brought.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
But I'm like the crack dealer...you gotta come out to look in the trunk
If it's a reasonably nice day on Saturday, we can head down to the bay and
shoot some birds.
Ian
Ian - Have you looked at the Kinesis bags for that 500 f4.0? http://www.kinesisgear.com/l.html
The cases look very nice - but they cost more than I used to pay for a lens
THe review of the Canon 500 f4.0 IS on FMiranda are stunning - but you'll HAVE to sell your motorcycle to afford one.....
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bought the lens, what's another $300...right? Lightware also makes
a case. It's about $215...
Wait 'till you find out about the drop in filters
ian
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shots
ian
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"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson