The sickness worsens...

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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited December 16, 2004
    I just like the idea of the 12 or 10x ready to go all the time though. I would never take a good quality lens with me...its just too rough as we make our own roads a lot of the time & really punish the vehicles. My lunch box sits beside me & takes up little room.

    I think a camera is only worth its use.
  • Michiel de BriederMichiel de Brieder Registered Users Posts: 864 Major grins
    edited December 16, 2004
    Humungus wrote:
    I think a camera is only worth its use.
    Yup, that's the most important thing of all thumb.gif
    *In my mind it IS real*
    Michiel de Brieder
    http://www.digital-eye.nl
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,693 moderator
    edited December 16, 2004
    Humungus wrote:
    I just like the idea of the 12 or 10x ready to go all the time though. I would never take a good quality lens with me...its just too rough as we make our own roads a lot of the time & really punish the vehicles. My lunch box sits beside me & takes up little room.

    I think a camera is only worth its use.

    Is riding in the truck on the seat beside you any rougher than in the tank bag of a DR-650 on fire roads and mountain passes??........... That's where my 10D or my G5 went with me. I did not take expensive IS L glass - just a 28-200 Promaster - but it held up just fine and is still going strong.
    Taken with a Canon G5 P&S
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    Taken with a 10D and a ProMaster 28-200

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  • luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited December 25, 2004
    I have the sickness too. I have had second rate cars, second rate jobs, and second rate girlfriends. But I have always had first rate camera gear.

    And that is bad how? eek7.gif
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,693 moderator
    edited December 26, 2004
    'gus - I have time to play for a while with the DMC-FZ20 that I gave my son for Christmas. It has some very nice features and the lens seems reasonably sharp. The sensor is they typical 2/3 s sensor of a P&S and suffers from noise at higher ISOs.

    I have three images to share - My son shot them on a very overcast grey winter day ( I doubt you get weather this grey and dark in OZ - :D At least the tourist bureau says you don't! :D )



    The first image is at the wide end of the zoom and the second is at the long end of the zoom. The third image is of a dog we saw in the park. The dog was shot playing in the snow immediately after the sun went behind the hill at sundown and it was a very flat grey light nad the dog suffers from noise in the brown pixels of his coat. This is not the file straight from the camera but the file created after color balancing and saving as a jpg.


    Image #1 f2.8 ISO 100 2560x1920 pixels 1/1000 sRGB 35mm 35equiv
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    Image #2 is a small portion on the end of the grey barn
    f2.8 ISO 100 2560x1920 pixels 3/1000 sRGB 432mm 35Equiv
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    Image #3 dog in the snow sRGB
    f2.8 ISO 100 1920x1080 ( sl cropped ) 1/800 194mm 35 equiv
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    Hope this information is helpful. I do like the ability to switch between the LCD and the EVF - but the LCD cannot be moved or rotated. I think this camera - like most 5 MPxl cameras can make great pictures, but you must use the sensor area fully - the ability to crop is limited.

    The last image is the same canine - Sarah is her name - taken with a 20D so you can judge for yourself how the quality compares.

    Image#4 f4.5 ISO 200 2044x2637- sl cropped 1/160th 75mm sRGB
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    I seem to have been stricken by a particularly virulent version of the Humungus sickness. I just ordered a Canon 70-200/2.8 IS. While I'm not particularly religious, I pray that this will quench my L-glass fever...at least for a few months.
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    it won't....
    fish wrote:
    I seem to have been stricken by a particularly virulent version of the Humungus sickness. I just ordered a Canon 70-200/2.8 IS. While I'm not particularly religious, I pray that this will quench my L-glass fever...at least for a few months.

    becuase after that, you can buy this: heheheheheheh
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    Tks heaps PF....keep 'em coming.


    Andy..a canon EF 200mm f/1.8L is considered as porn in this forum. Please ban yourself !







    Why did you have to show it to me ??
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    Humungus wrote:
    Tks heaps PF....keep 'em coming.


    Andy..a canon EF 200mm f/1.8L is considered as porn in this forum. Please ban yourself !

    Why did you have to show it to me ??

    heheheh and it's only $3500 - $5000 for a roll in that hay lol3.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,897 moderator
    edited December 27, 2004
    andy wrote:
    becuase after that, you can buy this: heheheheheheh
    Or he might "go big" :D:D:D

    ian
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    How about i just stay using the binoculars ??


    Lunch on the river & a steamboat ride taken 5 mins ago.

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,693 moderator
    edited December 27, 2004
    Humungus wrote:
    How about i just stay using the binoculars ??


    Lunch on the river & a steamboat ride taken 5 mins ago.

    13296215-M.jpg


    Actually 'gus, I suggested digiscoping as an alternative to expensive telephoto lenses in an earlier post. Just google 'digiscoping' and you'll find all sorts of information about it. Digiscoping might actually work fairly well for surfing shots :D
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    ian408 wrote:
    Or he might "go big" :D:D:D

    ian

    You guys are NOT helping. :nono
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    fish wrote:
    You guys are NOT helping. :nono
    You havnt got the ready on you to buy that sort of stuff anyway fish.































    Stand back & watch guys...............
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,897 moderator
    edited December 27, 2004
    fish wrote:
    You guys are NOT helping. :nono
    If you're going to be up for a while, I could swing by and show you thumb.gif
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    Humungus wrote:
    You havnt got the ready on you to buy that sort of stuff anyway fish.
    Visa, baby, visa.


    If somebody would buy my other lenses, I'd be a lot closer to paying the bill. :cry
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 27, 2004
    ian408 wrote:
    If you're going to be up for a while, I could swing by and show you thumb.gif
    I'll be up for awhile. It's pretty damn wet, so wear yer goretex. nod.gif You can play with my new Lionel 0-27 New York Flyer trainset that Santa brought. :D

    Just be aware that you may not leave with everything you brought. naughty.gif
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,897 moderator
    edited December 27, 2004
    fish wrote:
    I'll be up for awhile. It's pretty damn wet, so wear yer goretex. nod.gif You can play with my new Lionel 0-27 New York Flyer trainset that Santa brought. :D

    Just be aware that you may not leave with everything you brought. naughty.gif
    You've gotta go give Santa a BIG kiss.

    But I'm like the crack dealer...you gotta come out to look in the trunk :D

    If it's a reasonably nice day on Saturday, we can head down to the bay and
    shoot some birds.

    Ian
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,693 moderator
    edited December 28, 2004
    ian408 wrote:
    You've gotta go give Santa a BIG kiss.

    But I'm like the crack dealer...you gotta come out to look in the trunk :D

    If it's a reasonably nice day on Saturday, we can head down to the bay and
    shoot some birds.

    Ian


    Ian - Have you looked at the Kinesis bags for that 500 f4.0? http://www.kinesisgear.com/l.html

    The cases look very nice - but they cost more than I used to pay for a lens :Dne_nau.gif

    THe review of the Canon 500 f4.0 IS on FMiranda are stunning - but you'll HAVE to sell your motorcycle to afford one..... umph.gif
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    Brown brought my 70-200/2.8 IS this morning, so naturally, I couldn't wait to step outside and do the snappy-snap thing. Here's a sample (handheld, ISO100, 200mm, f2.8, 1/80s):

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    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited December 28, 2004
    nice one fishy. You'd think that was an affordable lens... I feel like everyone has one except for me!
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    erik
    DoctorIt wrote:
    nice one fishy. You'd think that was an affordable lens... I feel like everyone has one except for me!

    get it. you will not regret it. deal.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,897 moderator
    edited December 28, 2004
    PF, man those guys are proud of their cases. They must figure if you
    bought the lens, what's another $300...right? Lightware also makes
    a case. It's about $215...

    Wait 'till you find out about the drop in filters :D

    ian
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    DoctorIt wrote:
    nice one fishy. You'd think that was an affordable lens... I feel like everyone has one except for me!
    Thanks. Considering it was more expensive than a 20D, you'd have to be made of money to consider it "affordable". So my kids will go hungry for a couple of months...no big deal. :D
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    ian408 wrote:
    PF, man those guys are proud of their cases. They must figure if you
    bought the lens, what's another $300...right? Lightware also makes
    a case. It's about $215...

    Wait 'till you find out about the drop in filters :D

    ian
    But now we are down to the 70-200 IS 2.8L which comes with a case and doesn't use drop in filters.
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited December 28, 2004
    andy wrote:
    get it. you will not regret it. deal.gif
    when i can't afford a lawn or kitchen appliances for my new house, I think I'll regret it umph.gif
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    Nice shot, David, I love the fine detail in the fur and the perfect exposure.
    Sid.
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,897 moderator
    edited December 28, 2004
    fish wrote:
    Thanks. Considering it was more expensive than a 20D, you'd have to be made of money to consider it "affordable". So my kids will go hungry for a couple of months...no big deal. :D
    Post some pix for the 'before' and in a couple of months, you can do the 'after'
    shots :D

    ian
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    DoctorIt wrote:
    when i can't afford a lawn or kitchen appliances for my new house, I think I'll regret it umph.gif
    Lawns are overrated. You just need to keep watering and mowing them. Get some green paint and voila! thumb.gif
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited December 28, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    Nice shot, David, I love the fine detail in the fur and the perfect exposure.
    Thanks waxy. I wish it would clear up here...really dark, gray, cold and rainy. No fun shooting. Hopefully I'll turn in some better shots in the coming days and weeks.
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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