The CS3 Thread :)

colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
edited April 23, 2007 in Finishing School
OK, since nobody's posted about this yet...

Photoshop CS3 press release (Universal on Mac)

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  • dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2006
    colourbox wrote:
    OK, since nobody's posted about this yet...

    Photoshop CS3 press release (Universal on Mac)

    From Martin Evening:
    Article
    New features PDF document

    Well, just my two-cents, but this upgrade doesn't seem all that great. Yeah, there's an upgrade to bridge, but really, how could bridge NOT be improved? It's so slow right now you can basically eat lunch and walk the dog in the time it takes to open a shoot.

    If the big plus in the CS3 is improved ACR, well, I'm still not impressed. As a Canon shooter, I find DPP does everything ACR can-- only faster and better.
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,237 moderator
    edited December 14, 2006
    ACR is a plug-in. It can be updated at any time (and is) by Thomas Knoll. Necessary due to new cams being introduced so fast.

    ACR has more useful and logical tools than does DPP. That said, I will be using DPP for the forseeable future due to its rock-solid performance. The DPP noise reduction functions barely work though. :cry And the DPP interface is just plain dumb. They might want to consider re-labeling the exposure slider to "exposure" instead of the way stupid "Brightness." 11doh.gif

    On the BIG plus side for DPP is the file read speed. It can display JPG and RAW file thumbs from a folder in a few seconds or less. Lightning fast compared to all other apps.

    • Some chatter about CS3 here. Click ">more..."

    • Rumor: Non-destructive filters (or actions) and reversions to non-filtered state without adding extra layers to preserve the original. = smaller file sizes (theory so far).

    • Tighter integration with the CS3 suite(s). Big Bridge overhaul. Yet to be seen.

    • Because newer is better lol3.gif (not always true).

    • Mostly, the PS app is crying for the upgrade fast track due to Mac'ers screaming for the program to run on their newer Intels. CS3 suite is on its heels, a few months later. GoLive to be retired and replaced with Adobe Dreamweaver CS3. (aka ver. 9).
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2006
    dogwood wrote:
    Well, just my two-cents, but this upgrade doesn't seem all that great. Yeah, there's an upgrade to bridge, but really, how could bridge NOT be improved? It's so slow right now you can basically eat lunch and walk the dog in the time it takes to open a shoot.

    If the big plus in the CS3 is improved ACR, well, I'm still not impressed. As a Canon shooter, I find DPP does everything ACR can-- only faster and better.
    Not in my book. Not now, and certainly not in the CS3 release :)

    http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs3/sk_features.html
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    On the BIG plus side for DPP is the file read speed. It can display JPG and RAW file thumbs from a folder in a few seconds or less. Lightning fast compared to all other apps.

    Dunno, guys. AFAICT, dpp is like 2x slower than my Bridge + ACR
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,237 moderator
    edited December 15, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Dunno, guys. AFAICT, dpp is like 2x slower than my Bridge + ACR

    Yeahbut, you use a Mac. I use one of those other boxes. :uhoh
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    David_S85 wrote:
    Yeahbut, you use a Mac. I use one of those other boxes. :uhoh
    Oh.

    So DPP is faster on Win95? OK :D
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,237 moderator
    edited December 15, 2006
    And while we're all waiting for my rip-roaring PS CS3 review using Windows 3.1 and 95, here's some screenshots and a user preview of the new king.
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  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Photoshop CS3 Beta download
    Adobe Photoshop CS3 Beta, the link will require you to enter your Adobe or Macromedia ID to get to the CS3 page.

    I am downloading it now. :D
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  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    I installed it on both my G5 and Macbook. It seems to work well so far.

    Lots of info out there on it from:

    http://photoshopnews.com/

    http://www.photoshopforphotographers.com/pscs2/photoshopcs3.htm

    http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs3/index.html
  • ballentphotoballentphoto Registered Users Posts: 312 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    I am downloading it right now.... Based on what I have seen and the reports from dpreview from people that have already installed it, it's a winner. The new selection tool (if it works as advertised) will be worth it to me alone. That magnetic lasso tool get old quick. PSe4 had the magic selection brush and it worked great. Panos done in layers, and filters done in layers and re-doable ... what is not to like... and everyone is saying that it's much faster in everything (I will report back on that one)

    ACR4 comes from Lightroom so changes done in there will be visible in PSCS3. I am looking forward to the final version.
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    And while we're all waiting for my rip-roaring PS CS3 review using Windows 3.1 and 95, here's some screenshots and a user preview of the new king.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    The changes to ACR are awesome.

    Fill light. Split toning. Recovery. Improved grescale. Way-improved curves functionality.
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  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,952 moderator
    edited December 15, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    The changes to ACR are awesome.

    Fill light. Split toning. Recovery. Improved grescale. Way-improved curves functionality.

    Anybody know whether ACR 4 will be usable with CS2?
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  • ballentphotoballentphoto Registered Users Posts: 312 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    rsinmadrid wrote:
    Anybody know whether ACR 4 will be usable with CS2?

    Could always try to copy the file over :D I will experiment with that once I'm up and running... Since I use Capture NX for my raw conversions ACR is only used to preview from Bridge... of course it could just be coded to only work with CS3... Will see :)
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  • DifferentSeedDifferentSeed Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Does anyone know if you can still run PS CS2 if you install the CS3 beta?
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  • 01af01af Registered Users Posts: 41 Big grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    In the Photoshop CS3 Beta Trial package, ACR 4.0 is a great thing! And Bridge CS3 is rubbish. Definitely not an improvement over Bridge 1.0.4---it's as slow as it ever was, and even more prone to crashing. Okay, it's only a beta release, but still I was expecting more. I am very disappointed.

    rsinmadrid wrote:
    Anybody know whether ACR 4 will be usable with CS2?
    I just tried it. It's not.

    DifferentSeed wrote:
    Does anyone know if you can still run PS CS2 if you install the CS3 beta?
    Yes, you can. No problem.

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Photomerge is updated, with new perspective controls clap.gif
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  • ballentphotoballentphoto Registered Users Posts: 312 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Photomerge is updated, with new perspective controls clap.gif

    Have you tried the auto-align layers and Auto blend? that is one of the things that has me very interested.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Oh nice :D

    Bridge is really well done. Lots of personalization options, easily configurable, and try clicking (just highlighting) on two or three thumbs at once. Sweet
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    You have to have CS2. :patch
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Did they run out of budget and that's why the Dock Icon's are so Freakin' Fugly? lol3.gif
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  • dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    The changes to ACR are awesome.

    Fill light. Split toning. Recovery. Improved grescale. Way-improved curves functionality.

    This part sounds good. Plus, I like the idea of a b&w conversion using an adjustment layer. And the new extract or selection tool sounds nice too. Guess I'll have to give it a spin.

    Maybe once Vista comes out and I go dual-chip, bridge will be faster for me. I would very much like to be able to use it-- but for me (on PC anyway), it's an absolute crawl. I end up using Photo Mechanics to sort my photos before working in PS.
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  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    You have to have CS2. :patch


    :haha umph.gif
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    You have to have CS2. :patch


    Just what you want to do: pay for a CS2 update when CS3 is just around the corner!
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    DavidTO wrote:
    Just what you want to do: pay for a CS2 update when CS3 is just around the corner!
    Not gonna happen.

    I'll wait 'til April.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    I love opening Bridge and CS3 now! Everytime, something new!

    It's an Adobe-gasm!!!!!! lol3.gif
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  • dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    It's an Adobe-gasm!!!!!! lol3.gif

    Hmmm, I think I know why you're not developing Adobe's new ad campaign, Andy. rolleyes1.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    ACR4 and CS2
    rsinmadrid wrote:
    Anybody know whether ACR 4 will be usable with CS2?

    Yes and no.

    CS3 came with TWO versions of "Camera Raw.8bi".

    One is located in
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Adobe Asset Services CS3\Plug-Ins

    and the other in
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS3\File Formats

    File has different sizes and works differently.
    The second one refused to work with CS2 (error when opening RAW file).

    The first one, if copied to CS2 location

    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS2\File Formats

    is working:-).
    However, it's almost the same as the old ACR, but with added Fill Light slider.

    HTH
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    CS2 and CS3 can both be installed
    DifferentSeed wrote:
    Does anyone know if you can still run PS CS2 if you install the CS3 beta?

    Over on dpreview, there are people running both side-by-side. The only place I've heard that they collide is in file associations (the last one installed wins). Other than that, they seem to install and work completely separately.
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  • jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited December 15, 2006
    Unlikely
    rsinmadrid wrote:
    Anybody know whether ACR 4 will be usable with CS2?

    Adobe's prior stance with ACR was that new versions of it would only work with the latest version of Photoshop. For example, the current versions of ACR only work with CS2, not with CS. I've heard there are practical reasons for this (testing and maintaining compatibility with older releases in something that get's released four times a year) and there are obviously business reasons for it (driving people who need new versions of ACR to upgrade). I'd be surprised if Adobe changed this policy.
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited December 16, 2006
    My two cents on CS3
    Just spent the whole eveing watching the videos.
    It looks like in this version Adobe finally did a lot of things right.. Adobe's website gives a good rundown on the new features, but the videos are well worth watching (NAPP members will get some extras). New curves, new edge refining and selection tool, new vanishing point, new b/W, new blending modes, smart filters, new bridge ... The list goes on and on...
    Man, this is gonna be the best PS ever clap.gif
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