Sorry, miss again.
This is clearly not the case when the fill flash is needed.
The foreground object already has enough light as it is (and the light is coming from the side, which is always good), flash does not do anything except flattenting the picture.
Sorry, miss again.
This is clearly not the case when the fill flash is needed.
The foreground object already has enough light as it is (and the light is coming from the side, which is always good), flash does not do anything except flattenting the picture.
Ok. I need the practice, so I'll try. Thanks for the direction.
INFO: 1st photo: Av Mode 1/200 F/5.6 ISO 200
2nd Photo: Same settings, with flash TTL from Canon EX 580
Thank you for the entry!
I think you overdid the flash a bit. Fill flash is almost never used in ETTL mode. In your case you need a very low and very concetrated beam without the light spill. Switch to manual and start with like 1/128. You can also control the "spread" by selecting the "focal length".
HTH
Been trying this for a while, but the first one that came out right here. The non flash one isnt in focus tho. Taken today at the airport, in an R-22 helicopter
Been trying this for a while, but the first one that came out right here. The non flash one isnt in focus tho. Taken today at the airport, in an R-22 helicopter Flash used: No Focal length: 31.0mm (35mm equivalent: 50mm) CCD width: 22.17mm Exposure time: 0.017 s (1/60) Aperture: f/5.6 ISO equiv.: 100 Exposure bias: 0.33 Whitebalance: Manual Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
Shot this last night. Yeah, there's a weed or something in the lower left-- I'll probably clone that out in the final image. But for purposes of fill-flash, it shouldn't matter. Also, trying out a new watermark, still needs a little tweaking.
Shot this last night. Yeah, there's a weed or something in the lower left-- I'll probably clone that out in the final image. But for purposes of fill-flash, it shouldn't matter. Also, trying out a new watermark, still needs a little tweaking.
Pete,
thank you, very good entry!
I think you overdid flash a bit, probably need to tone it down.
One thing that can be very useful in such cases is to have flash bracket exposures (I know 580EX supports it)
Thank you!
I can see some fill flash effect, but in this particular case I do like the original more. With their faces towrds the camera the end result could have been different...
Thank you!
I can see some fill flash effect, but in this particular case I do like the original more. With their faces towrds the camera the end result could have been different...
May be you mean the composition also.
This one is better, isn't it ?
May be you mean the composition also.
This one is better, isn't it ?
I like this one better, but I still think in this case the fill flash is not needed, since I don't think I'm interested in their t-shirts back graphic design.
Again, with their faces towards the camera it would be a totally different story.
I like this one better, but I still think in this case the fill flash is not needed, since I don't think I'm interested in their t-shirts back graphic design.
Again, with their faces towards the camera it would be a totally different story.
Nikolai.
The photo is inserted in a set of various refering to the competition.
Some are available here for the moment.
In fact I was using the 70 200 at the time and, in the one refered above, I should have used the flash.
It's my son and my daughter in law. Can you imagine this picture with a fill flash ? It would be a must.
But the action just happened then and I was not prepared.
Later, they will go to the Sports gallery.
They were the jury and the proof was going on in front of them.
So, I was interested in their t-shirts and the competition and not in their faces.:D
I am learning so much....
( and realizing how much I have to get rid of down here!)
Tank you, nice entry!
Next time try the diffuse the flash from the ceiling. There are many ways to do that, business card would be the easiest/cheapest.
Tank you, nice entry!
Next time try the diffuse the flash from the ceiling. There are many ways to do that, business card would be the easiest/cheapest.
A friend of mines brought me a ST-E2 from Macau for a better price than in Portugal.
It was very easy to start shooting with it.
1. st - No flash
2. ed - Fill flash on top of the camera
3. ed - Fill flash from the right side. There is a shadow on the wood. I don't like it.
More will come with better quality when I practice more.
This equipment looks very interesting to use.
A friend of mines brought me a ST-E2 from Macau for a better price than in Portugal.
It was very easy to start shooting with it.
1. st - No flash
2. ed - Fill flash on top of the camera
3. ed - Fill flash from the right side. There is a shadow on the wood. I don't like it.
More will come with better quality when I practice more.
This equipment looks very interesting to use.
Thank you!
For the record, I never heard of the fill flash to be on a side. The only possible scenario I can imagine for it to be if you're dealing with the very unusual lighting setup, when the forground/background are already at an angle to the camera and lit at an angle too, in which case your fill light probably also should be at an (opposite) angle.
Yet this would be quite an unusual situation that require much more special lighing anyway. The fill flash is a general term for a far more typical "dark fg/light bg" situation and shoult be located close to the camera. Also, it should be low enough to NOT create any noticeable shadows. It's primary purpose to remove the shadows that coming from the backlighting, that's all.
In case you didn't get "lighting science and magic" book yet - I do recommend it.
Thank you for the lines you wrote about this.
I would like to live here my concept of fill flash.
Which, in fact is not much different from yours.
My concept is based on this article and I quote:
"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]... flash can also be used in bright locations or in daylight to lighten shadows, reduce the harsh contrast of full sunlight or brighten up dull images without being the primary light source for the photo. This is called “fill flash” or “fill-in flash,” though the latter term’s more commonly used in the UK. And it’s often a source of surprise for non-photographers, who don’t expect to see photographers using flash units outdoors on sunny days in brightly lit settings. In such situations the fill flash is being used as a sort of portable reflector - shining a little extra light in certain areas." [/SIZE][/FONT]according to http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-f...html#fillflash
In fact, I see no problem to call Fill Flash a situation where we try to iliminate/fill the shadows, placing the 2.ed or the #.ed source of light wherever we hope the best results to be produced.
Another example with the ST-E2 and flash outside ( not attached to ) the camera.
These are just experiments.
The last two pictures, are both fill flash photos. I know you agree with me.
Comments
Sorry, miss again.
This is clearly not the case when the fill flash is needed.
The foreground object already has enough light as it is (and the light is coming from the side, which is always good), flash does not do anything except flattenting the picture.
INFO: 1st photo: Av Mode 1/200 F/5.6 ISO 200
2nd Photo: Same settings, with flash TTL from Canon EX 580
Thank you for the entry!
I think you overdid the flash a bit. Fill flash is almost never used in ETTL mode. In your case you need a very low and very concetrated beam without the light spill. Switch to manual and start with like 1/128. You can also control the "spread" by selecting the "focal length".
HTH
Flash used: No
Focal length: 31.0mm (35mm equivalent: 50mm)
CCD width: 22.17mm
Exposure time: 0.017 s (1/60)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv.: 100
Exposure bias: 0.33
Whitebalance: Manual
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
and
Flash used: Yes (manual)
Focal length: 31.0mm (35mm equivalent: 50mm)
CCD width: 22.17mm
Exposure time: 0.0100 s (1/100)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv.: 100
Exposure bias: 0.33
Whitebalance: Manual
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
Thank you, nice entries!
One fill flash and another one straight up with fill flash.
Both without the "previous shots".
Good usage of the Fill Flash.
Too bad they are not valid complete entries :-P
Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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Pete,
thank you, very good entry!
I think you overdid flash a bit, probably need to tone it down.
One thing that can be very useful in such cases is to have flash bracket exposures (I know 580EX supports it)
Some test shots with fill flash.
Good one, thank you!
A very good example. Sorry, but I did not shoot a picture without the flash. It was useless.
Thank you!
I can see some fill flash effect, but in this particular case I do like the original more. With their faces towrds the camera the end result could have been different...
This one is better, isn't it ?
I like this one better, but I still think in this case the fill flash is not needed, since I don't think I'm interested in their t-shirts back graphic design.
Again, with their faces towards the camera it would be a totally different story.
The photo is inserted in a set of various refering to the competition.
Some are available here for the moment.
In fact I was using the 70 200 at the time and, in the one refered above, I should have used the flash.
It's my son and my daughter in law. Can you imagine this picture with a fill flash ? It would be a must.
But the action just happened then and I was not prepared.
Later, they will go to the Sports gallery.
They were the jury and the proof was going on in front of them.
So, I was interested in their t-shirts and the competition and not in their faces.:D
( and realizing how much I have to get rid of down here!)
Tank you, nice entry!
Next time try the diffuse the flash from the ceiling. There are many ways to do that, business card would be the easiest/cheapest.
It was very easy to start shooting with it.
1. st - No flash
2. ed - Fill flash on top of the camera
3. ed - Fill flash from the right side. There is a shadow on the wood. I don't like it.
More will come with better quality when I practice more.
This equipment looks very interesting to use.
For the record, I never heard of the fill flash to be on a side. The only possible scenario I can imagine for it to be if you're dealing with the very unusual lighting setup, when the forground/background are already at an angle to the camera and lit at an angle too, in which case your fill light probably also should be at an (opposite) angle.
Yet this would be quite an unusual situation that require much more special lighing anyway. The fill flash is a general term for a far more typical "dark fg/light bg" situation and shoult be located close to the camera. Also, it should be low enough to NOT create any noticeable shadows. It's primary purpose to remove the shadows that coming from the backlighting, that's all.
In case you didn't get "lighting science and magic" book yet - I do recommend it.
I would like to live here my concept of fill flash.
Which, in fact is not much different from yours.
My concept is based on this article and I quote:
"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]... flash can also be used in bright locations or in daylight to lighten shadows, reduce the harsh contrast of full sunlight or brighten up dull images without being the primary light source for the photo. This is called “fill flash” or “fill-in flash,” though the latter term’s more commonly used in the UK. And it’s often a source of surprise for non-photographers, who don’t expect to see photographers using flash units outdoors on sunny days in brightly lit settings. In such situations the fill flash is being used as a sort of portable reflector - shining a little extra light in certain areas." [/SIZE][/FONT]according to http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-f...html#fillflash
In fact, I see no problem to call Fill Flash a situation where we try to iliminate/fill the shadows, placing the 2.ed or the #.ed source of light wherever we hope the best results to be produced.
Another example with the ST-E2 and flash outside ( not attached to ) the camera.
These are just experiments.
The last two pictures, are both fill flash photos. I know you agree with me.
But I can explain - it's extremely hard to lease such powerful
fill-in flash on daily bases
One extra bad thing - there are 3 pics - not required pair.
First - full flash power
Second - cut flash power
Third - fill flash OFF
1st
2nd
3rd
All taken with 10D handheld, EF 20-35/2.8L,
400ISO, f3.5, 1st 1/13s, 2nd/3rd 1/50s
Flash - Speedlite 65000000000EX
XTi, G9, 16-35/2.8L, 100-300USM, 70-200/4L, 19-35, 580EX II, CP-E3, 500/8 ...
DSC-R1, HFL-F32X ... ; AG-DVX100B and stuff ... (I like this 10 years old signature :^)
ROFLMAO
I post now a situation where the fill-in flash is not an issue.
I like far better the picture without flash.
It was off camera at our right.
No pic without. Sorry.