Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I think I can buy one now. The Italian language is fixed
and don't forget the Chinese too. :ivar
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Are you now going to join the fellas wearing the white hats?
Well, Rod G. ain't impressed with the firmware :cry
I'll be sitting back :lurk watching this drama unfold and waiting on what Nikon does by the end of the year. When all the dust settles I'll be making a decision.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Well, Rod G. ain't impressed with the firmware :cry
Extraordinary.
Update, July 23, 2007: Canon USA has asked that we not release EOS-1D Mark III full resolution photos taken with firmware v1.0.9 loaded while Canon in Tokyo examines one of the bodies we used to check out the new firmware. Because what we want more than anything is for the camera's autofocus problems to be resolved, and because an encouraging roadmap for investigating the problems was mapped out in an extended phone call with Canon USA's Chuck Westfall this morning, we've agreed to not put up photos as originally planned for today. We will of course continue to write about EOS-1D Mark III autofocus when there is news to share.
Well, Rod G. ain't impressed with the firmware :cry
I'll be sitting back :lurk watching this drama unfold and waiting on what Nikon does by the end of the year. When all the dust settles I'll be making a decision.
Actually the firmware took care of what it was supposed to. People are dissappointed that it did not address all the issues.
Like you Harry, I'm waiting....and in no hurry. I want this camera (bad).
I doubt that these focusing issues would have that much impact on the type of shooting I do. Not very often do I have a bird coming towards me!
Does it seem right that you should have to mess with custom functions to tell the autofocus you're shooting a static subject versus a moving one?
Not to me. In a football game, I shoot both, can't be futzing around with cf settings.
He later added a comment that those BIF settings don't work so well for relatively static animals / birds, so he uses a different CFn combination for such shots. He has these programmed in as custom sets so it is easy to switch between them.
This isn't something I'd want my camera to expect.
@wx et al - Recheck that POTN thread; several people are returning the MKIII. The point there is that the camera should not require special handling; something's wrong, and until Canon gets it fixed many, many people are waiting and several are returning the camera for refunds.
No new autofocus fixes in this patch. It contains the single small improvement they made in v1.0.9 which was released on 7/20. That patch was reviewed and panned Rob Galbraith here.
Patch and Sam, thanks for the links. Even though I haven't been having any AF problems 1.1.0 cleared up two issues right off the bat for me. Plus Sam's link gave me some great insight because most of what I shoot is BIF so now I can start experimenting with the CF's.
My first issue was that my LCD was very blurry. Compared to my 400D it was like it was fogged up. Not any more, fixed and sharp.
Also, my joystick (on and off lever) didn't differentiate between "on" and the 2nd position so some functions worked on both setting when the manual said they should only have worked on the 2nd setting.. Cleared that up too.
Sam, the link to the custom functions was great (IMHO) because it gave a lot more info than the manual and gave Canon's reasoning behind the functions and settings.. plus examples. I think this will be very helpful to a lot of people and I have already sent it off to 3 other friends with M3's.
There aren't any 3rd party books out yet and I feel, just like computer books, the first ones on the shelves will be the ones rushed to print and won't address a lot of issues that are popping up. So all that is available so far are these forum posts with links and a lot of experimenting in the field.
I have been watching the Canon site and the firmware update still isn't posted on the CanonUSA.com site so even though I knew it was coming out I couldn't find it. The day after it was posted here Canon sent out and email with the link to the update but by then I had it loaded and ready to go.
Anyway.. just thought I would give you my thoughts. Thanks again and keep the thread going, it is very insightful even though I'm not having many problems.
I just want to add a thank you for this thread. I am in the process of upgrading my DSLR body and, whilst I still think that the MKIII is the right option, I think that I'm going to hold off buying one until this issue has been sorted.
The updates here on the thread are a good way of keeping track of this in one place.
Can anyone out there with more insight or knowledge than I give some idea if these auto-focus issues are firmware fixeable? I read about people waiting-and-seeing as if Canon might release a new version of the body itself, not just a firmware fix.
hmmmm....while I want to upgrade to the 1D Mark III I think I may have to wait. I am long overdue for an upgrade from my 1D Mark II (still very happy with it) and prices have dropped on the N version of it that does not have the focus issues. With my bread and butter being motorcycle racing I need spot on and fast autofocus
I believe Canon stopped shipping these cameras pending an investigation of the nature and extent of the complaints voiced specific to the motion-focus issues (and potentially other focus related issues). I expect to hear some kind of published response and then some sort of resolution. I have not heard anything about what that resolution could be, but Canon has a lot banking on the success of this camera.
I find it odd that some folks are very happy with the camera and continue to produce apparently excellent work. This could be a supplier issue or a QC issue or ... you name it.
I find it odd that some folks are very happy with the camera and continue to produce apparently excellent work. This could be a supplier issue or a QC issue or ... you name it.
Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Especially since the mk IIn has been discontinued...
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Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
So I should add that overall, the build quality is good. And the best part, the
body is MUCH lighter than the mkII. Comfy to hang onto and I'm just getting
to read the manual--I'm a tad bit overwelmed to say the least.
Owning a mkII made it easy to at least get out and start shooting--at least
until I finish my reading assignment
More later but I did post my first mkIII shot today
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
and don't forget the Chinese too. :ivar
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Are you now going to join the fellas wearing the white hats?
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Haha!
I did stop by the local shop today to inquire about the camera. They didn't have any demos because all the pros were buying them up.
Well, Rod G. ain't impressed with the firmware :cry
I'll be sitting back :lurk watching this drama unfold and waiting on what Nikon does by the end of the year. When all the dust settles I'll be making a decision.
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Great galleries, Chris. Jeff, I agree with you.
LOVE my MK III, no focusing issues, but I'm coming off of 30D/20D, haven't tweaked custom functions, did buy Art's UG though.
Got the camera a week ago, almost, 2K through it under difficult conditions, dust, low light, customers are happy.
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Actually the firmware took care of what it was supposed to. People are dissappointed that it did not address all the issues.
Like you Harry, I'm waiting....and in no hurry. I want this camera (bad).
I doubt that these focusing issues would have that much impact on the type of shooting I do. Not very often do I have a bird coming towards me!
Does it seem right that you should have to mess with custom functions to tell the autofocus you're shooting a static subject versus a moving one?
Not to me. In a football game, I shoot both, can't be futzing around with cf settings.
This isn't something I'd want my camera to expect.
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That and having to customize the lens selection for AF to make it more exact...
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No new autofocus fixes in this patch. It contains the single small improvement they made in v1.0.9 which was released on 7/20. That patch was reviewed and panned Rob Galbraith here.
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Hi Guys,
Great thread, thanks for starting it Harry.
Patch and Sam, thanks for the links. Even though I haven't been having any AF problems 1.1.0 cleared up two issues right off the bat for me. Plus Sam's link gave me some great insight because most of what I shoot is BIF so now I can start experimenting with the CF's.
My first issue was that my LCD was very blurry. Compared to my 400D it was like it was fogged up. Not any more, fixed and sharp.
Also, my joystick (on and off lever) didn't differentiate between "on" and the 2nd position so some functions worked on both setting when the manual said they should only have worked on the 2nd setting.. Cleared that up too.
Sam, the link to the custom functions was great (IMHO) because it gave a lot more info than the manual and gave Canon's reasoning behind the functions and settings.. plus examples. I think this will be very helpful to a lot of people and I have already sent it off to 3 other friends with M3's.
There aren't any 3rd party books out yet and I feel, just like computer books, the first ones on the shelves will be the ones rushed to print and won't address a lot of issues that are popping up. So all that is available so far are these forum posts with links and a lot of experimenting in the field.
I have been watching the Canon site and the firmware update still isn't posted on the CanonUSA.com site so even though I knew it was coming out I couldn't find it. The day after it was posted here Canon sent out and email with the link to the update but by then I had it loaded and ready to go.
Anyway.. just thought I would give you my thoughts. Thanks again and keep the thread going, it is very insightful even though I'm not having many problems.
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I just want to add a thank you for this thread. I am in the process of upgrading my DSLR body and, whilst I still think that the MKIII is the right option, I think that I'm going to hold off buying one until this issue has been sorted.
The updates here on the thread are a good way of keeping track of this in one place.
Cheers!
I believe Canon stopped shipping these cameras pending an investigation of the nature and extent of the complaints voiced specific to the motion-focus issues (and potentially other focus related issues). I expect to hear some kind of published response and then some sort of resolution. I have not heard anything about what that resolution could be, but Canon has a lot banking on the success of this camera.
I find it odd that some folks are very happy with the camera and continue to produce apparently excellent work. This could be a supplier issue or a QC issue or ... you name it.
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Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Especially since the mk IIn has been discontinued...
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bodies again...I got mine yesterday.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
body is MUCH lighter than the mkII. Comfy to hang onto and I'm just getting
to read the manual--I'm a tad bit overwelmed to say the least.
Owning a mkII made it easy to at least get out and start shooting--at least
until I finish my reading assignment
More later but I did post my first mkIII shot today
Remembering that some folks were getting good results without the new firmware, I think there could be other variables involved.
It is encouraging that cameras are getting into the pipeline again. Congratulations on yours!
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