Well, I couldn't find a "sexier" bottle, so I gave the same ole bottle a boa
I'm sure Ken will pitch in, but in the mean time...
With the glass you pretty much cannot have the primary light in front of it AND have a background at the same time. YOu can have SOME light next to the camera to light up a label, but the main idea is the have it some place else - especially with the back b/g.
For some reason, what you said there clicked for me Nikolai... thank you. I went back and re-read some posts and looked at some of the other setups. I think I got some pretty good results this time. There are still a few flaws... mostly with my wrinkly background, which I'm not sure how to fix. I'm not sure I can iron the material and it wasn't mine, so I was afraid to ruin it.
I can see the improvement!
The major issue now becomes the size of the BG. It should be only big enough to fill the frame. You need this to create distinctive lines in the bottle.
And you can shoot the setup again later
Don't look at these attempts as failures. Look at them as all the different ways you know how to not light glass. (If it worked for Thomas Edison, I'm sure it will work for you)
If you'd like, I'll set up my rig again and take some more detailed shots so you can really disect it. I genuinely think you don't need this though. You're starting to get the theory, now just take your time and really dial all those details in.
A LITTLE LIGHTING OT:
As a note so you can better controll your lighting:
Your Aperture controlls your strobes.
Your shutter speed controlls that ambient light.
This is one of those aha! facts that will help you take your photog skills to the next level. So memorize it now.
If you want to leave your strobe at the same power but want it to be "darker" in your shot. Adjust your Aperture to a smaller fstop (increase the f number)
3rd shot from the bottom.
I've taken the shot and everything looks good but the background is a little bit bright and I want to dim it down.
My camera settings are:
What setting should I change to make the background darker? look below AFTER you have answered the question.change the f stop to a higher number. This closes the diaphram that lets the light in hitting the sensor.
You can also change the distance of your strobe to subject distance. But when you do this you also change the dynamics of the light since it is now hitting the subject differently (which isn't bad. it just changes more than the ammount of light hitting y our sensor)
A LITTLE MORE LIGHTING OT:
This is also a great way to conserve your strobes power. If you have your strobe set at 1/16 and you have your aperature set to f27 (one sixteenth of your strobes capacitors energy will be used w/ each shot so in theory you can hammer on it 16 times before it has to recharge). This is equivelant to having your strobe set to 1/4 power and your aperature set at f11 in reagards to lighting. (one half of your strobes capacitors energy will be used w/ each shot so in theory you can pop the strobe on it 2 times before it has to recharge).
So opening up your aperature can give you more bang for your buck. In this situation it makes almost no difference what you do. But when you are in a situation where you need to get allot of shots in short periods of time. THis can make the difference between sucess and failure.
I think the white backgrounds others were using give the shot a much cleaner look. I'm not diggin' my black box background. I'll keep an eye out for a way to get a white background setup.
Here is one picture I did with a beer bottle. I like having a white background. However the labels are too dark. I used a diffuser in the back with two reflectors up front.
I tried to lighten the labels with a light from the front or even overhead. However this caused too many reflections that I could not control. I'd like suggestions on how to light the front of the bottle without getting the reflections.
I'll have to try again with the snoots. I ended up just placing the light up and to camera right with a reflector to the left. This lit the labels at least some but left some reflections that I did not like . I did some pp to even out the colors.
Thanks for the feedback. I just purchased a couple of bottles of wine. One a rose and the other a chardonnay so the color will come through easier. I'll try with those later this weekend.
Total EDIT: sorry. I though you were Snakeroot. I saw Beginner Grinner and didn't look back.
Here are the wine bottles. I bought them based on the label. Typically my wife and I are box wine drinkers but I decided to purchase glass just for this.
I did some PP because I could not get rid of some reflections from the top of the bottles. For the Chardonnay, I placed two flashes left and right above the bottles. For the Rose I bounced a single light off the ceiling from behind the camera.
I tried using a gobo above the wine bottles to get rid of the reflections but I could not figure out where to place to gobo correctly. I think I'll finally try a snoot but I still have trouble aiming a homemade snoot correctly.
Here are some wine bottles with a dark background. I stuggled to get the background and floor dark. I ended up darkening the background in pp.
I used a stobe behind the bottle shot through a diffuser. I put the gobo on the diffuser. I noticed that I got better results if I made the gobo much taller than the wine bottle and field of view.
I do not like either of these two pictures much. Any suggestions are welcome.
Here is the set up shot
You're not waiting until I get the first month's assignement right before you post a new one are you?
I will get back to it! I will!!
Antonio Correia wrote:
This time the dark background was easy but the white one was/is very difficult for me.
I was not going to post here the white background because it is a flop, a real disaster.:cry
But on the other hand, the errors are part of the leaning process.
My problem is the white balance. I am using a torch light which has a much different temperature from the flash as you can see.
Thinking of this problem I have bought an orange gell but I had no time to prepare it yet. However I decided to go ahead and here is the disaster.:cry
Here is the wine bottle with a dark background and a snoot added. I also placed a blue light on the background. I adjusted the brightness levels in Capture NX. Also I eliminated a reflection in the upper half of the bottle that I could not get rid of.
Here is the setup shot. I used a diffuser between the back light and the gobo. I had to hand hold the diffuser so it is not in this shot. Also the snoot on the label is from overhead. The snoot is hard to see in the picture.
Nice onces, Dave!
First one a bit uneven on the bg, but nice anyway!