Andy's Un-Official Unsolicited Mac Advice Thread

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  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    I'll check, but I don't think so. headscratch.gif

    I think I figured out how to make it shutdown consistently. I just need to run a program that uses some processor power. iview rebuilding 1000 previews to 640 thumbnails does it. Time to go to the Apple store. :uhoh
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    23" Apple Cinema display for $999. Not bad.

    No mention of MacBook Pro. :cry
    Sid.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    MAC PRO,CTO
    Z0D8
    3.00 GHz Quad Xeon
    1GB 667 DDR2 FB DIMM ECC-2x512
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    16x SuperDrive DL

    Shipping next week :)
    Off to find 4gb RAM.

    yay!
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited August 7, 2006
    patch29 wrote:
    Does anyone else have a macbook out there?

    I am still trying to find the source of my problem. I want to be able to replicate it, so I can show it at the Apple store.

    One thing I have noticed is, when I reboot, it goes to the grey screen with the apple, then mine flips to a black (power off type) screen and then maybe a blue, with the apple box and progress bar, then to the desktop.

    If you have a Macbook could you reboot and see if you get the black screen in-between the grey and next screen? ear.gif

    Thanks,
    Patrick

    I'll give it a twirl tonite.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    patch29 wrote:
    Does anyone else have a macbook out there?

    I am still trying to find the source of my problem. I want to be able to replicate it, so I can show it at the Apple store.

    One thing I have noticed is, when I reboot, it goes to the grey screen with the apple, then mine flips to a black (power off type) screen and then maybe a blue, with the apple box and progress bar, then to the desktop.

    If you have a Macbook could you reboot and see if you get the black screen in-between the grey and next screen? ear.gif

    Thanks,
    Patrick


    I have seen that before, but I'm not aware of any patter with it. Have you tried resetting the PRAM? Also, is there an external drive attached? Or a disk in the DVD slot? Anything that it has to search before starting from the boot drive?
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  • thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    MAC PRO,CTO
    Z0D8
    3.00 GHz Quad Xeon
    1GB 667 DDR2 FB DIMM ECC-2x512
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    16x SuperDrive DL

    Shipping next week :)
    Off to find 4gb RAM.

    yay!
    Nice, let me know how you get on sourcing your RAM, these FB-Dimms seem very expensive. As far as I can tell 4x1GB seems to be the most cost effective way to reach 4 Gig, working out around $675. Also, have you any idea if you can source a standard 'PC' ATI X1900 and put it in yourself?
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    In all the jubilation, don't miss this: http://www.vmware.com/

    Probably still the fastest way to run Photoshop on your Mactel without a reboot. Maybe even the fastest way of all.
    If not now, when?
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    rutt wrote:
    In all the jubilation, don't miss this: http://www.vmware.com/

    Probably still the fastest way to run Photoshop on your Mactel without a reboot. Maybe even the fastest way of all.
    Interesting, thanks Rutt. Now we just need a guinea pig (and a copy of the software.)
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2006
    patch29 wrote:
    I think I figured out how to make it shutdown consistently. I just need to run a program that uses some processor power. iview rebuilding 1000 previews to 640 thumbnails does it. Time to go to the Apple store. :uhoh
    That's good.

    Definitely no black screen when I turn on.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • nathannathan Registered Users Posts: 20 Big grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    patch29 wrote:
    Does anyone else have a macbook out there?

    I am still trying to find the source of my problem. I want to be able to replicate it, so I can show it at the Apple store.

    One thing I have noticed is, when I reboot, it goes to the grey screen with the apple, then mine flips to a black (power off type) screen and then maybe a blue, with the apple box and progress bar, then to the desktop.

    If you have a Macbook could you reboot and see if you get the black screen in-between the grey and next screen? ear.gif

    Thanks,
    Patrick

    You may be experiencing a battery problem. You should check to see if your MacBook and or battery are part of the exchange program.

    https://support.apple.com/macbookpro15/batteryexchange/

    I had a MacBook that started to spontaneously shutdown and would sometimes startup weird immediately afterward. It turns out I had a bad battery.
    Nathan

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    and a vast assortment of lenses
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    nathan wrote:
    You may be experiencing a battery problem. You should check to see if your MacBook and or battery are part of the exchange program.

    https://support.apple.com/macbookpro15/batteryexchange/

    I had a MacBook that started to spontaneously shutdown and would sometimes startup weird immediately afterward. It turns out I had a bad battery.


    Thanks, but I only have a Macbook and the batteries seem to be a pro issue. ne_nau.gif It also happen running on the battery or plugged in.
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    DavidTO wrote:
    I have seen that before, but I'm not aware of any patter with it. Have you tried resetting the PRAM? Also, is there an external drive attached? Or a disk in the DVD slot? Anything that it has to search before starting from the boot drive?


    PRAM, yes
    PMU, yes (if what I read was correct)
    No external drive
    different times I had a DVD of jpgs, but not all. I will have to check again.

    It shuts down now very consistently. I only need to run something that uses some processor power.

    I have also had this problem now on different OS version, 10.4.6, 10.4.7 and a clean install off the original Macbook discs, both with stock HD, ram and aftermarket. I may be off to visit Apple tomorrow. :cry
  • thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    rutt wrote:
    In all the jubilation, don't miss this: http://www.vmware.com/

    Probably still the fastest way to run Photoshop on your Mactel without a reboot. Maybe even the fastest way of all.

    I'm assuming Andy knows that PS may well run slower on his new box until there's a universal binary?
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Another really cool development. Check out Moka5. This is a next generation virtualization technology. What's different about it is that it caches the most commonly used data for your virtual machine and keeps the rest on an internet server. The result is that you can keep a computer or three on a keychain usb drive or a flash card of some sort. The virtual machine software runs either as a windows application or a standalone application which can also fit on the drive. On a mac, you use bootcamp to boot up the virtual machine and run one of your virtual machines. So far, not that special for the OS X crowd, BUT here is a cool thing. It is also supposed to be able to virtualize OS X systems. This means you can capture your OS X environment, store on your keychain, and use it on a PC at work or whereever. You don't need a mac to run it.

    I haven't tried this, and it's a beta thing. A very good friend of mine is CEO and she gave my son and myself the pitch at dinner last week. She asked him, "How many computers do you think I have in my purse?" My son guessed none and I guessed 10 to the 500th (just raise the bar.) The real answer was 10 on 2 different usb keychain drives. Monica thinks that the idea of having to haul around an actual computer just to have your environment is so 2000. Why not have a different computer for each of the things you do? The game computer uses windows. The photography computer uses os x. Your 7 year old daughter might have a "hello kitty" computer.

    I'm going to try this out soon, but if you like this sort of thing it has the potential to be very fun.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    thebigsky wrote:
    I'm assuming Andy knows that PS may well run slower on his new box until there's a universal binary?

    Yeah but how many grains of sand are on the beach?
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Yeah but how many grains of sand are on the beach?

    Fewer than the number of computers I thought were in Monica's purse.
    If not now, when?
  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    thebigsky wrote:
    Nice, let me know how you get on sourcing your RAM, these FB-Dimms seem very expensive. As far as I can tell 4x1GB seems to be the most cost effective way to reach 4 Gig, working out around $675. Also, have you any idea if you can source a standard 'PC' ATI X1900 and put it in yourself?

    My favorite RAM and hard drive store just posted their Mac Pro RAM page.
    Still a few months before I can afford to order a MacPro...
  • W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    MAC PRO,CTO
    Z0D8
    3.00 GHz Quad Xeon
    1GB 667 DDR2 FB DIMM ECC-2x512
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive
    16x SuperDrive DL

    Shipping next week :)
    Off to find 4gb RAM.

    yay!
    thumb.gif Way to go, Andy!

    It should really fly and I'm very envious, but a little surprised at your choice of video card! Unfortunately there'll be a wait for users down under if they also want the real deal 3.0GHz option. In this hemisphere, only the 2.66GHz model is being offered at present, and God alone knows what the price will be by the time everyone down the line takes a clip out of the ticket.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    colourbox wrote:
    My favorite RAM and hard drive store just posted their Mac Pro RAM page.
    Still a few months before I can afford to order a MacPro...
    Do they support their product well, in the event of problems?
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    Do they support their product well, in the event of problems?


    They're a well-respected and recommended site. Lynnesite first introduced them to me years ago. Buy with confidence.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    DavidTO wrote:
    They're a well-respected and recommended site. Lynnesite first introduced them to me years ago. Buy with confidence.
    Thanks, David. thumb.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    My Macbook left today. The genius took it without even trying to check it out himself, especially after I read off my list of trial solutions. It did shutdown once while it was on the counter, which probably helped too. I hope they have a permanent fix for it and it gets back to me quickly. :cry



    I also learned today that you can make an appointment online for the genius bar, something I could not do last time I went. umph.gif That was the most frustrating part finding out they could not see me for two hours, so I made an appointment from the one store to go to the other one since it was not as busy. I showed up and they were ready ahead of schedule. clap.gif
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Cool, good to know they're willing to address it. Any estimate of how long lon it will take 'em?
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    DavidTO wrote:
    They're a well-respected and recommended site. Lynnesite first introduced them to me years ago. Buy with confidence.
    Yabbut 4gb for $1099? that's abt the same as Apple. I just bought from crucial.com, 4gb for under $700
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    but a little surprised at your choice of video card!
    I don't do gaming, nor video on my Mac. So, is there going to be any benefit to me in upgrading? I've been happy with the vid card on my G5 thus far...

    ear.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    rutt wrote:
    Fewer than the number of computers I thought were in Monica's purse.
    lol3.gif

    Well, my point is, CS2 is dang fast on my Macbook Pro, under Rosetta, so I expect it to be just fine on the Mac Pro, too. Will report results next week!
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Yabbut 4gb for $1099? that's abt the same as Apple. I just bought from crucial.com, 4gb for under $700

    2GB for Macbook is $218 at Other World and $256 at crucial. ne_nau.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    2GB for Macbook is $218 at Other World and $256 at crucial. ne_nau.gif
    Macbook, not Mac Pro deal.gif
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Macbook, not Mac Pro deal.gif
    Think I care about you? I'm all about me, baby. 1drink.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 8, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    Think I care about you? I'm all about me, baby. 1drink.gif
    lol3.gif that's ok. But I don't want anyone to get their rams mixed up, worlds collide, y'know?
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