Lens Q?: 24-70L or Sigma 24-70 and Canon 100 Macro?

Scott_Quier

Shima wrote:

Ziggy - what's your experience with dust on this lens?

I've had mine for bit more than 1.5 years. I have just a couple of small dust specks inside the lens - nothing to write home about - and they definitely don't have any effect on the images.

Shima

Scott_Quier wrote:

I've had mine for bit more than 1.5 years. I have just a couple of small dust specks inside the lens - nothing to write home about - and they definitely don't have any effect on the images.

Haha that's funny, I was just reading your comments about the 17-55 on here: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=84545

Scott_Quier

Shima wrote:

Haha that's funny, I was just reading your comments about the 17-55 on here: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=84545

At least I'm consistent in my stories:D

jgoetz4

Scott_Quier wrote:

I've had mine for bit more than 1.5 years. I have just a couple of small dust specks inside the lens - nothing to write home about - and they definitely don't have any effect on the images.

Evening Folks,
If I remember correctly, dust inside the first element has no effect on IQ, since that area is used to gather the light. The last element is what is used for final focusing, and if any dust or debris is visible in that area, then that's where the specs would show up on an image.
Have a good evening
Jim...

ziggy53

Shima wrote:

Ziggy - what's your experience with dust on this lens?

Nothing so far, but I haven't had the lens that long and mostly indoor stuff.

I am not at all worried about it.

The initial cost was my only concern, but the utility of the lens has met my needs and then some. I have no regrets and it is the right tool for my needs.

Shima

Some follow up:

Pindy here on the forums has offered to trade me his 17-55 2.8 IS USM for my 24-105 f4/L IS USM.

Super excited We are proceeding with the trade. Will update when it gets here.

rpcrowe

Agree with Ziggy

ziggy53 wrote:

I honestly think I would recommend the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm, f/2.8 XR Di LD over the Sigma 24-70mm, f2.8. Very nice lens overall.

In addition to the Canon EF 100mm, f/2.8 USM Macro, consider the Tamron SP 90mm, f/2.8 Di Macro.

I know I seem to be a Tamron salesman but these two are just really good values in lenses.

I absolutely love my Tamron SP 90mm f/2.8 Macro lens. You might notice that I left out the designator "Di" from the Tamron alphabet soup title of my lens.

Mine is the macro lens distributed by Tamron prior to the introduction of the "Di" model. The term "Di" designates this lens a being optimized for digital. Perhaps it is "optimized" but, I really cannot imagine any better image quality than I get with my "non-optimized" Tamron macro.

The image quality this lens produces is right up there with my 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens and with my several "L" class lenses including the 24-70 f/2.8L and the 70-200mm f/4L IS.

I am sure that lens testing procedures might show an increase in quality between the non-Di and the Di designated lens but in real life shooting (as in the case of the 70-200mm f/4L IS and non-IS lenses) I cannot see any difference.

You can sometimes get very good bargains on the non-Di Tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro lens. I got mine in mint condition from eBay for less than $125; including shipping.

JohnBiggs

I had the Sigma 24-70 and I switched it for the Tammy 28-75 f2.8 I don't miss the 4mm, and I am very happy I made the switch.

Trust me, if you are deciding between these, the Tammy is the one to get. ALSO think about weight and size. The Tammy is incredibly small compared to the other two.

I have also shot the 24-70L and I didn't see any differences so I'm glad I didn't waist the money.

claudermilk

Ah, but how quickly did the AF lock on? IMHO the cost of the L lens is not a waste if you need the performance, particularly in low light. That seemsot be the universl caveat of the Canon vs third-party lenses; Canon's USM motor is always commented upon as outperforming the competition.

LKN Dave

Still can't decide
Too many choices, I still can't decide what I want after all this.

Moogle Pepper

The life of a photographer.




If you can't decide, LKN Dave, just rent them and try them all out!

ziggy53

LKN Dave wrote:

Too many choices, I still can't decide what I want after all this.

Try not to choose what you want, rather choose what you need. If you don't know what you need, you need to define your goals which will dictate your needs.

What are your goals?

Shima

Moogle Pepper wrote:

The life of a photographer.




If you can't decide, LKN Dave, just rent them and try them all out!

Or trade after you get something so you don't have to spend more money. My trade from Pindy should be getting here tomorrow according to UPS!!!

Scott_Quier

Shima wrote:

Or trade after you get something so you don't have to spend more money. My trade from Pindy should be getting here tomorrow according to UPS!!!

Not quite clear on the concept here - are you, maybe, a little excited about getting the 17-55?wink

Shima

Scott_Quier wrote:

Not quite clear on the concept here - are you, maybe, a little excited about getting the 17-55?wink

ivar

just a little, lol

well that and if you can't rent, you can always trade, was my point


This is driving me bonkers while I wait lol:
TRI-CITY,
IN, US 05/14/2008 5:06 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY

Moogle Pepper

haha it will at your place by 5 pm!!

DrDavid

Shima wrote:

ivar

just a little, lol

well that and if you can't rent, you can always trade, was my point


This is driving me bonkers while I wait lol:
TRI-CITY,
IN, US 05/14/2008 5:06 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY

So, question... How did you guys keep each other honest? What would have stopped him/you from not shipping, etc..? Just curious how your trading worked..

David

Shima

DrDavid wrote:

So, question... How did you guys keep each other honest? What would have stopped him/you from not shipping, etc..? Just curious how your trading worked..

David

I'm the one who has to stay honest, he OFFERED to ship to me first and then after I get it let me ship to him. So my 24-105 is still here, and will be getting shipped promptly tomorrow...because...

the 17-55 came while I was on lunch and is in my hands now!!!

But yeah, I am honored to be trusted that he felt ok sending me his lens first. This is the first trade I've ever done.

Moogle Pepper

Isn't the wait the worst part of buying a new lens online??

But now that you got it... time to go on a shooting spree!!

Shima

Moogle Pepper wrote:

Isn't the wait the worst part of buying a new lens online??

But now that you got it... time to go on a shooting spree!!

Yeah if only I wasn't stuck in my office, lol. So far my hand, really lame self portraits, and various things on my desk have been my test subjects. I can't wait to to go home tonight, throw my flash on it (I have the flash with me at the office, but it might attract attention if I light the whole room up when I'm supposed to be doing networking stuff....) and test it on my husband and our pets. I'm sooooo excited it's finally here.

DrDavid

Shima wrote:

I'm the one who has to stay honest, he OFFERED to ship to me first and then after I get it let me ship to him. So my 24-105 is still here, and will be getting shipped promptly tomorrow...because...

the 17-55 came while I was on lunch and is in my hands now!!!

But yeah, I am honored to be trusted that he felt ok sending me his lens first. This is the first trade I've ever done.

Wow.. I'm impressed. So, now when you ship the 24-105mm, there's been a slight change to the shipping address.... Did you get the memo about that? He's now asked that you ship it care of him at my address. I'll PM you the details...

David

Shima

DrDavid wrote:

Wow.. I'm impressed. So, now when you ship the 24-105mm, there's been a slight change to the shipping address.... Did you get the memo about that? He's now asked that you ship it care of him at my address. I'll PM you the details...

David

lol, didn't you just get a 24-70 2.8/L?

Moogle Pepper

Nah DrDavid's address has been rerouted to my address. kthnxbai!

DrDavid

Shima wrote:

lol, didn't you just get a 24-70 2.8/L?

You can never have too many lenses..

I hear phonebooks weigh about the same as lenses..

Hey, Moogle... You ever get that 24-70mm 2.8L you offered to "check" for me to make sure it was sharp enough?

David

Moogle Pepper

Actually yes...

Here is a pic that came from that test:



As you can tell, it's a pretty sharp copy. But I am not gonna send it back to you, tough luck!

ulrikft

Lightrules at pbase has a quite extensive test:

http://www.pbase.com/lightrules/2470exl

He also compares 24-70 with the tamron

http://www.pbase.com/lightrules/exvdi


(he also has quite a bit of nice testing of gear other than this, recommended! )

(am I a bit late? ) :P

DrDavid

Moogle Pepper wrote:

Actually yes...

Here is a pic that came from that test:

I SO want to link this photo.... http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1192879-lg.jpg

Moogle Pepper

DrDavid wrote:

I SO want to link this photo.... http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1192879-lg.jpg

Are you trying to imply something?

jgoetz4

DrDavid wrote:

I SO want to link this photo.... http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1192879-lg.jpg

You know that picture would look a lot better in b & w, or w & b
Have a good evening
Jim...

Shima

Alright, here's my first human photo with the 17-55 f2.8 IS USM. (yes I used my 580EXII)

Introducing my husband, Joel:


And here's an artsy no flash photo I took outside of some junk:


Then to test out the speed I got a shot of my dogs playing (note the little one is in the air):


Testing out some macro and bokeh:


clap Pindy is my hero.