Andy's Un-Official Unsolicited Mac Advice Thread

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  • bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    Yup. Just search out apple government employee purchase plan in google.



    Yes, that I do know (meaning that I just read it last night). Here's why I'm going to get it. 1) I need it for the shootout. 2) It runs through Rosetta (as I understand it slower than on a powerPC) without any action on my part. 3) CS3 won't be out until the 2nd quarter 2007. It's not like I'm going to just have the MBP to surf the net ne_nau.gif Also when CS3 comes out I can get it for the upgrade price.

    Not perfect, but it'll do.
    ok, your call but i'll just throw this out. I love firefox as much as anyone, but until they released a universal binary of it, i was using camino. YMMV.
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    bigwebguy wrote:
    ok, your call but i'll just throw this out. I have a huge man crush on firefox. Until they released a universal binary of it, i was using camino. YMMV.

    So what pray tell should I get for the shootout?

    lol3.gif mancrush
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  • bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    So what pray tell should I get for the shootout?

    lol3.gif mancrush
    if you HAVE to have something for the shootout, spend $100 on a copy of XP and use your existing CS2 license (you can install on 2 pc's)
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    So what pray tell should I get for the shootout?

    lol3.gif mancrush


    What is it you want to do? Import the images, or actually process them? I don't plan on doing much more than shooting and enjoying myself. Andy might be busily processing shots, but I'll be drinking a beer in the bar, I believe...

    Me? I'd bring your little HD80 gizmo, and shoot and enjoy.

    If you want to process, then go ahead and get the suite, although you should check out the upgrade path, and mebbe get PS only for now, and then upgrade to the full CS3 when it comes out? I mean, you're not gonna be building a web site during the shoot-out, right?
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Sorry what was that about xp and CS2? I'm teh l05t...
    DavidTO wrote:
    I mean, you're not gonna be building a web site during the shoot-out, right?

    weeeeeellllll ne_nau.gif
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    Sorry what was that about xp and CS2? I'm teh l05t...



    weeeeeellllll ne_nau.gif


    BWG's suggesting that you sully your new MBP by installing XP on it with Boot Camp, or one of the other solutions, so you can run your current copy of CS2 until you can get the Universal Binary version CS3.
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Ahh yes, the bootcamp thing. Well I suppose that'll keep me going until CS3 comes out. Quick question though, will I be able to uninstall the bootcamp / windows xp installation entirely once I no longer have a need for it? Or on second thought should I maybe keep the bootcamp/win xp so I can have one place among all my computers where IE6 still resides (presumably I would then upgrade to IE7 everywhere except for the bootcamp install...)?
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  • bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    Ahh yes, the bootcamp thing. Well I suppose that'll keep me going until CS3 comes out. Quick question though, will I be able to uninstall the bootcamp / windows xp installation entirely once I no longer have a need for it? Or on second thought should I maybe keep the bootcamp/win xp so I can have one place among all my computers where IE6 still resides (presumably I would then upgrade to IE7 everywhere except for the bootcamp install...)?
    yes, apple includes a nice un-installation tool in bootcamp for removing the XP partition and reclaiming it into macdom.

    IF you want to use the macbook as your main image editing box, i recommend going the bootcamp option as opposed to the virtualization option. you'll get 100% performance out of bootcamp vs. a performance hit in the virtual world.

    Then, once CS3 comes out and you're using photoshop in the mac world, run XP in virtualization for IE6 compatability checking because you can run windows from inside OSX instead of having to reboot into it.

    My opinion....go the bootcamp route for the shootout. I'm assuming this is your first mac? If so then you'll still be cutting your teeth in OSX and want something familiar to boot into when you really want to get something done. Eventually you'll get used to it and start using mac keystrokes on your PC and thats when you can start doing serious work on the mac.
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    bigwebguy wrote:
    yes, apple includes a nice un-installation tool in bootcamp for removing the XP partition and reclaiming it into macdom.

    IF you want to use the macbook as your main image editing box, i would recommend going the bootcamp option as opposed to the parallel's virtualization option. you'll get 100% performance out of bootcamp vs. a performance hit in the virtual world.

    Then, once CS3 comes out and you're using photoshop in the mac world, run XP in virtualization for IE6 compat. checking because you can run windows from inside OSX instead of having to reboot into it.

    My opinion....go the bootcamp route for the shootout. I'm assuming this is your first mac yes? If so then you'll still be cutting your teeth in OSX and want something familiar to boot into when you really want to get something done. Eventually you'll get used to it and start using mac keystrokes on your PC and thats when you can start doing serious work on the mac.

    Sounds like a winner. Nothing extra to buy for now is a definite plus. And also yes, this is my first mac. When I'm using a mac, I feel like a complete idiot. I mean maybe I am, but at least this complete idiot can figure out how to do <alt><tab> to switch between open programs in windows. I'm like a chimp trying to get the thing to do something. Just lots of pressing buttons and staring blankly.

    Pretty pretty buttons.
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  • StevenVStevenV Registered Users Posts: 1,174 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    bigwebguy wrote:
    Eventually you'll get used to it and start using mac keystrokes on your PC and thats when you can start doing serious work on the mac.

    unless you continue to go back to Windows for "real work," in which case you'll never give yourself a good chance to get used to the Mac. If you're going to switch, switch. Give Adobe a call and see if they'll give you a cross-grade from CS2/Win to CS2/Mac (which I've heard that they do).

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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    StevenV wrote:
    unless you continue to go back to Windows for "real work," in which case you'll never give yourself a good chance to get used to the Mac. If you're going to switch, switch. Give Adobe a call and see if they'll give you a cross-grade from CS2/Win to CS2/Mac (which I've heard that they do).

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    I still have a windows machine at home (2 actually) so it wouldn't be of much benefit to me to switch from CS2/Win to Mac. I'll need both. Actually I'll probably dump CS2 on the win machines entirely after Vista and Expression family come out (I know people who work at microsoft so Vista will be probably $40 for me and Expression will be *guessing* $60 or $70). So I'll eventually have a Mac with CS3 (which will hopefully integrate macromedia stuff entirely) and win boxes with vista and expression (or whatever it gets changed to).

    I don't know why anyone would care headscratch.gif

    Point is, I'm not going to buy CS2 if I don't have to. I'll have it down cold eventually.
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  • bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    (I know people who work at microsoft so Vista will be probably $40 for me and Expression will be *guessing* $60 or $70)
    an even better reason to get XP on the Mac as your interim solution. you can get away CHEAP!

    the rest of your post didnt make any sense to me though.
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    bigwebguy wrote:
    an even better reason to get XP on the Mac as your interim solution. you can get away CHEAP!

    Just like I like my women.
    bigwebguy wrote:
    the rest of your post didnt make any sense to me though.

    I got fixated by the thought of pretty buttons...:oogle
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    quick questions.

    1) When I'm talking to someone who knows macs will I get berated if I say Oh Ess Ex as opposed to Oh Ess Ten?

    2) Does OSX (see above and pretend I said the right thing) have some way to display my 20D's .CR2 files? If not is there something that I need to download to make it do so? My thought is I could at least weed out bad files if I happen to not be in Win XP mode.

    3) Is there some kind of help for brand new to macs but not brand new to computers types of people on the internets?
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    quick questions.

    1) When I'm talking to someone who knows macs will I get berated if I say Oh Ess Ex as opposed to Oh Ess Ten?

    It's ten. Funny story, in the early days, of the Macintosh SE, the 68030 processor should have been named the SEx, if it followed their naming conventions. They opted for SE30.
    2) Does OSX (see above and pretend I said the right thing) have some way to display my 20D's .CR2 files? If not is there something that I need to download to make it do so? My thought is I could at least weed out bad files if I happen to not be in Win XP mode.

    It will show them in the Finder (desktop) level.
    3) Is there some kind of help for brand new to macs but not brand new to computers types of people on the internets?

    There's a bunch of resources on the Apple site, although they may be a bit rudimentary for you. There's also a book for it, I think it's by David Pogue?

    And there's always me. I'd be happy to answer any of your questions and guide you as best I can. Here, email or IM.
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  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    1) When I'm talking to someone who knows macs will I get berated if I say Oh Ess Ex as opposed to Oh Ess Ten?

    You should ignore any Mac user who acts like a jerk to you. Those cult fanatics make the normal Mac users look bad. They need to be discouraged.
    Mike Lane wrote:
    2) Does OSX (see above and pretend I said the right thing) have some way to display my 20D's .CR2 files?

    OS X has Raw support in the OS, so when the camera is supported by the OS, it means it's supported by any program that hooks into the OS, like the Finder itself, or Apple Preview, or Aperture. You could set a Finder folder window to Icon view, set the icon view to maximum, and cull images that way, but frankly, I still find it easier to do all that in Adobe Bridge. Which uses Adobe's converter, of course.

    Here is the current list.
    Mike Lane wrote:
    3) Is there some kind of help for brand new to macs but not brand new to computers types of people on the internets?

    For an experienced guy like you, one place is macosxhints.com. Search for how-tos and tips from advanced users. Good forum too. If you were to buy a book, a great one is Mac OS X: The Missing Manual.

    Hope this helps pay back for the awesome customization help I've gotten!
  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Thanks guys!
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    colourbox wrote:
    For an experienced guy like you, one place is macosxhints.com. Search for how-tos and tips from advanced users. Good forum too. If you were to buy a book, a great one is Mac OS X: The Missing Manual.

    Hope this helps pay back for the awesome customization help I've gotten!

    Yeah, I love macosxhints.com. And that *is* the book I was thinking of.

    Also, there's macosx.com, which offers support. But you'll get better support from us. :D Make a Mike Lane support thread in Gear or News or something, and we'll hook you up.

    A site that I find worth registering (paid) for is macfixit.com. You can read their site for free, but their archives are subscription based, and I find that I need to access them often enough to make it worth while.

    I also recommend macintouch.com for discussions of current mac issues.

    And versiontracker.com for software.
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    I'll make a new post at the first sign of trouble. I get 17" of pretty buttons and glossy graphics to stare blankly at coming on the 11th :D
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    I've recently become enamoured with socialist realism (aka communist kitsch) so this was really funny to me:
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  • StevenVStevenV Registered Users Posts: 1,174 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    ...but not brand new to computers...

    to real computers? try this and this. :D:D:D
  • bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    I've recently become enamoured with socialist realism (aka communist kitsch) so this was really funny to me:
    what do it say?
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    I think it says "would you like help with that?"
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    I think it says "would you like help with that?"


    We'll have to ask Nik!
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited May 7, 2006
    Bad news but good customer service.
    Yesterday I checked on my order status (obsessivelyrolleyes1.gif) and my new 17" MBP was set to ship out on the 8th and get here the 11th. But today I checked and it's set to ship out the 15th and get here the 18th :cry So apparently I won't have it for the shootout. Saddness. But at least that solves my photoshop issues ne_nau.gif

    The other bum deal is that I added the 2-3 day rush shipping in the hopes that it would get here before the shootout. If it's not getting here until later there's no need for a rush on the shipment. So I called Apple to see if I could change the shipping method back to the normal (and free) method. The guy said that the box would ship any time between the 11th and the 15th (which means I could theoretically get it before the shootout still with the rush shipping). So he said that he would keep it as rush shipping but refund me the money for it. Nice!

    I can't say my dealings with PC makers in the past has been that good. So that's cool.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 7, 2006
    Mike Lane wrote:
    Nice!

    I can't say my dealings with PC makers in the past has been that good. So that's cool.

    Time and again this is how Apple deals with these things. Top shelf A-1 primo customer service.
  • peestandinguppeestandingup Registered Users Posts: 489 Major grins
    edited May 9, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Time and again this is how Apple deals with these things. Top shelf A-1 primo customer service.
    Yup, even in the Apple Retail Stores, talking with the Mac Geniuses all the way down to the sales clerks. I always leave with a real sense that they actually care about their customers. All without leaving that bland BS taste in my mouth.

    What a concept! :D
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2006
    Apple announces the MacBook.

    Today, Apple unveiled the newly designed MacBook, the world’s most advanced consumer notebook featuring the Intel Core Duo processor and a gorgeous new 13-inch glossy widescreen display, all in a sleek design that is up to five times faster than the iBook and up to four times faster than the 12-inch PowerBook. Together with the 15-and 17-inch MacBook Pros, the new MacBook completes Apple’s Intel-based portables lineup and replaces both the iBook and the 12-inch PowerBook
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2006
    It also looks as though they adjusted the pricing on the MacbookPro's and it can be custom ordered with a glossy screen.
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited May 16, 2006
    FYI to NAPP members, in the discount section you can go to an NAPP Apple Store. deal.gif
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