Unposed / 2009

rutt

DonRicklin wrote:

Inside flaps works, but only for the slipcover version. There will be those who buy one of the other styles.

Do we have any spare single inside pages. Even at the back?

Don

We have quite a few inside pages (about 10) before push the price into the next category.

Richard

rutt wrote:

Somebody else is going to have to do this if it's going to happen. I expended my graphic design reserves for the month.

I could give it a shot if others think it's worth doing.

DonRicklin

rutt wrote:

We have quite a few inside pages (about 10) before push the price into the next category.

So, Front or back? Front pushes things, unless we take two pages, which might be worth it for , Thumbs, Name, SM URL and page numbers for actual images. Don't have to crowd things, then.

Much easier to insert, and up front would be nicer if not on the back. :D

Don

DonRicklin

Actually. I'd be willing to give it a go, at this level, but busy with tax time and other issues.

Don

rutt

Look, it would be nice to have something for the back cover so it's not white. Same with the flaps. Remember, they won't be there if someone orders the book without the slip cover (maybe we should just stipulate that that's the book.)

I think it would be nice to have one URL, for the forum itself. Too bad that isn't just:

http://dgrin.com/street

or similar instead of:

http://dgrin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59

(Richard, can we get a vanity URL? I would think this would be pretty easy, actually.)

Once on the forum, anyone can find the various home pages, no need or need to include in the book.

Maybe the url and one picture is the right thing for the back? If so, maybe I'll dig around and try to choose something I like (maybe something I wish had made it onto someone's list and didn't?)

thoth

rutt wrote:

Maybe the url and one picture is the right thing for the back? If so, maybe I'll dig around and try to choose something I like (maybe something I wish had made it onto someone's list and didn't?)

I would recommend another prime photo from the book itself.

rutt

thoth wrote:

I would recommend another prime photo from the book itself.

Yeah, I just flipped though and found a couple that I'd like on the back. I think they have to be landscape orientation, so that rules out some good ones. What about this (with the white borders):



Or this (full bleed):



I'm sure someone else can do better, these are just simple ideas.

thoth

rutt wrote:

Yeah, I just flipped though and found a couple that I'd like on the back. I think they have to be landscape orientation, so that rules out some good ones. What about this (with the white borders):



Or this (full bleed):



I'm sure someone else can do better, these are just simple ideas.

I like the 2nd full bleed idea. The URL could use some subtlety, though.

rutt

Richard informed me that it won't be easy to get a vanity URL for this subforum, so I guess I'll drop that idea.

I am open to the idea of an index at the end with photographer's names and corresponding URLs. This could run to a few pages (we have more than 10 before the book price goes up.) But someone else is going to have to collect this information into a single very easy to use form for me. And it has to happen pretty fast, I would guess. Otherwise, I'm just going to wrap this project up, with a few possible changes that have been suggested off-list.

Richard

rutt wrote:

Richard informed me that it won't be easy to get a vanity URL for this subforum, so I guess I'll drop that idea.

I am open to the idea of an index at the end with photographer's names and corresponding URLs. This could run to a few pages (we have more than 10 before the book price goes up.) But someone else is going to have to collect this information into a single very easy to use form for me. And it has to happen pretty fast, I would guess. Otherwise, I'm just going to wrap this project up, with a few possible changes that have been suggested off-list.

I can put that together tomorrow. Excel spreadsheet OK?

rutt

Richard wrote:

I can put that together tomorrow. Excel spreadsheet OK?

I'd prefer plain text, maybe a tab or comma separating them the name an url.

rutt

Edition candidate. [Edit: well, almost. Jumped the gun on Richard's list of names and URLs, but we're really close now.]

DonRicklin

rutt wrote:

Edition candidate. [Edit: well, almost. Jumped the gun on Richard's list of names and URLs, but we're really close now.]

Looks good (Index aside) but where is the back image attribution?

Don

rutt

DonRicklin wrote:

Looks good (Index aside) but where is the back image attribution?

Don

Like the images on the cover and the one on the copyright page, you have to read the book to find it. Not OK?

Patti

What about including your credit as editor rutt?

Richard

Here are the URLs I was able to find in the Dgrin profiles:

Liz Alarcon-Arocena http://lizzardnyc.smugmug.com/
Gary T. Asbury none listed
Virginia Bonesteel http://www.twocitiesphotography.com
Trish Casey-Green http://www.rteest42.smugmug.com
B. D. Colen http://bdcolen.smugmug.com
David Dong none listed
Damon Fernandes http://www.nomadbelatphotography.com
Patti Hinton http://www.flickr.com/photos/island_of_souls_photography
Karen Jessen none listed
Katherine Loveland none listed
Tina Manley http://www.tinamanley.com
Frank Martinez http://www.TrevLan.Smugmug.com
Jennifer Matheny http://michswiss.smugmug.com
Don Ricklin http://donricklin.blogspot.com/
John Ruttenberg http://www.chezrutt.com/rutt
Richard Schaffner http://rsinmadrid.smugmug.com
ED Siciliano none listed
David Anthony Smith none listed
Steve Wiencek none listed
Travis Winegar http://winegar.smugmug.com
Awais Yaqub http://www.awaisyaqub.com

Please check that these are current and free of typos. I have sent a PM to everyone who does not have a site listed. If you see an error or want to add your site, please contact Rutt directly by email.

Richard

rutt wrote:

I'd prefer plain text, maybe a tab or comma separating them the name an url.

Sent you a file.

michswiss

Patti wrote:

What about including your credit as editor rutt?

I'll second this. John, you deserve a big thanks for the effort.

ps. In case I haven't said it, I am extremely honoured to be on the front cover.

DonRicklin

Richard wrote:

Here are the URLs I was able to find in the Dgrin profiles:

Liz Alarcon-Arocena http://lizzardnyc.smugmug.com/
Gary T. Asbury none listed
Virginia Bonesteel http://www.twocitiesphotography.com
Trish Casey-Green http://www.rteest42.smugmug.com
B. D. Colen http://bdcolen.smugmug.com
David Dong none listed
Damon Fernandes http://www.nomadbelatphotography.com
Patti Hinton http://www.flickr.com/photos/island_of_souls_photography
Karen Jessen none listed
Katherine Loveland none listed
Tina Manley http://www.tinamanley.com
Frank Martinez http://www.TrevLan.Smugmug.com
Jennifer Matheny http://michswiss.smugmug.com
Don Ricklin http://donricklin.blogspot.com/
John Ruttenberg http://www.chezrutt.com/rutt
Richard Schaffner http://rsinmadrid.smugmug.com
ED Siciliano none listed
David Anthony Smith none listed
Steve Wiencek none listed
Travis Winegar http://winegar.smugmug.com
Awais Yaqub http://www.awaisyaqub.com

Please check that these are current and free of typos. I have sent a PM to everyone who does not have a site listed. If you see an error or want to add your site, please contact Rutt directly by email.

Richard and Rutt. For this I think I'd rather have my SM site listed, even though they are cross linked. http://donricklin.smugmug.com/

Thanks,

Don

Patti

michswiss wrote:

I'll second this. John, you deserve a big thanks for the effort.

ps. In case I haven't said it, I am extremely honoured to be on the front cover.

and I on the back (until you find a better choice)

rutt

I'm going to impose a deadline on this because I badly want to be done with this project. I'm going to close this up tomorrow noon ET.

Richard wrote:

Here are the URLs I was able to find in the Dgrin profiles:

Liz Alarcon-Arocena http://lizzardnyc.smugmug.com/
Gary T. Asbury none listed
Virginia Bonesteel http://www.twocitiesphotography.com
Trish Casey-Green http://www.rteest42.smugmug.com
B. D. Colen http://bdcolen.smugmug.com
David Dong none listed
Damon Fernandes http://www.nomadbelatphotography.com
Patti Hinton http://www.flickr.com/photos/island_of_souls_photography
Karen Jessen none listed
Katherine Loveland none listed
Tina Manley http://www.tinamanley.com
Frank Martinez http://www.TrevLan.Smugmug.com
Jennifer Matheny http://michswiss.smugmug.com
Don Ricklin http://donricklin.blogspot.com/
John Ruttenberg http://www.chezrutt.com/rutt
Richard Schaffner http://rsinmadrid.smugmug.com
ED Siciliano none listed
David Anthony Smith none listed
Steve Wiencek none listed
Travis Winegar http://winegar.smugmug.com
Awais Yaqub http://www.awaisyaqub.com

Please check that these are current and free of typos. I have sent a PM to everyone who does not have a site listed. If you see an error or want to add your site, please contact Rutt directly by email.

DonRicklin

rutt wrote:

I'm going to impose a deadline on this because I badly want to be done with this project. I'm going to close this up tomorrow noon ET.

Rutt please use my SmugMug URL!!!


Donricklin.smugmug.com


Don

rutt

Index page:



I'll delete the entries with NONE if I don't hear by tomorrow noon.

Richard

rutt wrote:

Index page:
I'll delete the entries with NONE if I don't hear by tomorrow noon.

That sounds a little harsh. Why not leave the names and leave the site blank?

rutt

Their names are there with their photos. But actually I don't care. And I've learned that credible threats work.

DonRicklin

rutt wrote:

Index page:



I'll delete the entries with NONE if I don't hear by tomorrow noon.

Thanks, rutt.

Don

WhatSheSaw

Hi John,

I replied to your email yesterday with my website. Maybe you didn't get it. It is whatshesaw.smugmug.com.

Thanks for all of your hard work!

Karen

Syncopation

I've been on the road between Sri Lanka and Thailand and I don't have mobile internet so was unaware the deadline was so pressing (24 hours notice - thanks a bunch).

Here's my URL for what it's worth http://syncopation.smugmug.com

rutt

OK, I got all the web sites I'm going to get. David Dong doesn't what one listed. I followed Richard's suggestion and left his name in the index without the web site. David if you don't like this let me know and I'll remove your name from the index.

Here is the most recent version, complete with index, back cover, &etc. Still blank flaps, but I'm out of ideas. Maybe I'll use Liz's press pass. Maybe I'll advertise myself. Most likely, I'll just forget the issue unless some else comes up with something nice.

I got back a proof and true to B.D.'s experience the shadows of B&Ws where it matters were over-inked. I'll try to pull these back from the hairy edge a little and see what happens with another proof run. So don't order unless you want to help me proof.

I love the large size! That was really nice in the proof book. Some images that don't look wonderful online looked great in the large book. I've seen Virginia's book which is small landscape, and at least one image is common and it looks better in larger size.

I'm thinking that Travis or some other volunteer can make the smaller book if there is demand (it will be about $40 less expensive.)

DonRicklin

rutt wrote:

OK, I got all the web sites I'm going to get. David Dong doesn't what one listed. I followed Richard's suggestion and left his name in the index without the web site. David if you don't like this let me know and I'll remove your name from the index.

Here is the most recent version, complete with index, back cover, &etc. Still blank flaps, but I'm out of ideas. Maybe I'll use Liz's press pass. Maybe I'll advertise myself. Most likely, I'll just forget the issue unless some else comes up with something nice.

I got back a proof and true to B.D.'s experience the shadows of B&Ws where it matters were over-inked. I'll try to pull these back from the hairy edge a little and see what happens with another proof run. So don't order unless you want to help me proof.

I love the large size! That was really nice in the proof book. Some images that don't look wonderful online looked great in the large book. I've seen Virginia's book which is small landscape, and at least one image is common and it looks better in larger size.

I'm thinking that Travis or some other volunteer can make the smaller book if there is demand (it will be about $40 less expensive.)

JUst so all the styles of book a there for the final for us to choose from. Softcover, hard with wrap and hard with slipcover.

Don