Pull backs....lets have some!

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited June 26, 2012
    Folks, keep them coming. I'll do more when the season starts soooooon.
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2012
    Another shot from the same setup:

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2012
    This one needs some correction, the slight kicker hitting her right arm is a bit distracting and eyes seem to be very dark. It is a great idea. Please post more.
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2012
    Hackbone wrote: »
    This one needs some correction, the slight kicker hitting her right arm is a bit distracting and eyes seem to be very dark. It is a great idea. Please post more.
    I agree!
    Unfortunately I was using velcrow on 4x6" diffusers. To do the shot how I want it I need to buy some 12"x36" gridded stripboxes. Just don't have them yet.
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited June 28, 2012
    In this shot you can see the same problem on her right forearm

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  • michswissmichswiss Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,235 Major grins
    edited July 2, 2012
    Pullback from One Light
    Ok, here's the pull back. Three of the four shots were taken at ~25mm F8 1/250 (lens 17-35/2.8). The three quarter shot was with an 85mm/1.4 at F3.5 1/200. All shots were at ISO 200 on a D800. The light was a 180cm Octobox w/o diffuser with a Broncolor monolight. I don't remember which model. Power was set at 85%.

    There was surprisingly little post work required to produce the final images. I am so much more used to having to spend time making multiple small adjustments in post when working with natural light in the wild.

    Here's the setting
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  • chuckdee1chuckdee1 Registered Users Posts: 52 Big grins
    edited July 6, 2012
    michswiss wrote: »
    Ok, here's the pull back. Three of the four shots were taken at ~25mm F8 1/250 (lens 17-35/2.8). The three quarter shot was with an 85mm/1.4 at F3.5 1/200. All shots were at ISO 200 on a D800. The light was a 180cm Octobox w/o diffuser with a Broncolor monolight. I don't remember which model. Power was set at 85%.

    There was surprisingly little post work required to produce the final images. I am so much more used to having to spend time making multiple small adjustments in post when working with natural light in the wild.

    Here's the setting
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    Nice. How about a final shot?

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  • michswissmichswiss Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,235 Major grins
    edited July 6, 2012
    The final shots are in the People forum under the subject "One Light".
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2012
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    40D, Sigma 10-20mm f4 1/2000
    580EXii master in 43" Westcott Apollo Orb on Ettl +3 HSS with maybe 15* tilt directly above camera lens
    550EXii slave camera right by edge of backdrop on stand 45* back from subject set on a:b 1:8 with 4x6" diffuser
    420EX slave camera left by edge of backdrop on stand 45* back from subject set on a:b 1/8 with 4x6" diffuser

    background processed in photomatix, portrait processed in ACR, both composed in CS3 with topaz adjustments.


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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2012
    love this one, very cool.
  • dlscott56dlscott56 Registered Users Posts: 1,324 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2012
    Here's one from a group of photos taken today. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2012
    Nice and thanks for posting.
  • BilsenBilsen Registered Users Posts: 2,143 Major grins
    edited July 16, 2012
    Kseniya and the Ducati
    I never did get this right but Kseniya on the Ducati in an old warehouse made it worth trying, even at 105 degrees.

    Setup:
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    Result
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    24-105 f4L IS; 70-200 f4L IS; 50mm 1.4; 28-75 f2.8; 55-250 IS; 580EX & (2) 430EX Flash,
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  • chuckdee1chuckdee1 Registered Users Posts: 52 Big grins
    edited July 30, 2012
    CA07111217415272-XL.jpg

    40D, Sigma 10-20mm f4 1/2000
    580EXii master in 43" Westcott Apollo Orb on Ettl +3 HSS with maybe 15* tilt directly above camera lens
    550EXii slave camera right by edge of backdrop on stand 45* back from subject set on a:b 1:8 with 4x6" diffuser
    420EX slave camera left by edge of backdrop on stand 45* back from subject set on a:b 1/8 with 4x6" diffuser

    background processed in photomatix, portrait processed in ACR, both composed in CS3 with topaz adjustments.


    20120711SmugmugFan-XL.jpg


    Agree with Charles......very cool! Good work!

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    Chuck Dee - AKA Chris
    "A good photograph is knowing where to stand." -Ansel Adams
    www.bellissimofoto.com
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2012
    One more.

    43" apollo orb octobox left with 580EXii on radio trigger ettl
    Shoot through umbrella right with 550EX on radio trigger ettl
    Bare 420EX on radio trigger ettl in suitcase laying down and facing away from camera
    Canon 40D, ISO200, 1/20sec, f/8, WB-Flash, Sigma 24-70 f/2.8
    Ambient knocked down with shutter speed.

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2012
    Please explain your fog and the colored lights please. Thanks for posting, cool shot.
  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 30, 2012
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Please explain your fog and the colored lights please. Thanks for posting, cool shot.
    Free bokeh texture from phlearn.com, hand painted fog, red streaks on the ground are a sunset overlay.
    That help? ne_nau.gif
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2012
    Here is a traditional five light setup for general portrature. 1 a main, 2 a hair, 3 a background lt, 4 a kicker, 5 a fill. My fill is an odd setup that a grand master from NJ came up with to give an even light anywhere in the front of the studio. His name was Joe Zeltsman. You can use an umbrella for the fill but the even fill anywhere up front is not as much. Sorry for the out of focus shot.

    The subject has her leg crossed over to transfer her weight to her rear cheek to help tilt her shoulders for a more feminine line and her arms are out to give a base for her head.

    In the photo the main is on the viewers left but for the shot I moved it to the viewers right.

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2012
    Just one main and a bounced fill to open the shadows.

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  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited July 31, 2012
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2012
    Just playing around. My graphic skills are quite limited but I'm sure others could make this more realistic with the tv glow for a gamer.

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2012
    One more outside.

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  • travischancetravischance Registered Users Posts: 640 Major grins
    edited August 11, 2012
    Great seies Charles!!!
    Travis M. Chance
    twin Mark IV's & a bunch of "L" glass
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  • SimpsonBrothersSimpsonBrothers Registered Users Posts: 1,079 Major grins
    edited August 13, 2012
    Hackbone wrote: »
    Just playing around. My graphic skills are quite limited but I'm sure others could make this more realistic with the tv glow for a gamer.

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    A CTB gel works good for TV light
  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited August 13, 2012
    Thanks, I did it a little better with a graduated blue in another post. I'll try the gel.
  • chuckdee1chuckdee1 Registered Users Posts: 52 Big grins
    edited August 14, 2012
    Hey, I finally got me a pullback... Yesterday, college volleyball individual shots. thumb.gif

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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2012
    Can I block sunlight?
    I see alot of photos here that are very poor due to overexposure by sunlight. Even in direct light you can get great shots by using a flash and blocking the sunlight. The prints are basically straight out of camera.

    Look at the sunlight on the person holding the reflector to block the light. His exposure is pretty hot.

    Look at the subjects had where I missed catching the light hitting his hand. That is how bad his face would have looked without blocking the light.

    I exposed for the truck/greenery and brought the flash in. Hope this makes sense.

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  • anonymouscubananonymouscuban Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,586 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2012
    Chuck,

    You address something that took me a bit to realize. Often times when shooting outside, it's much easier to "subtract" light than it is to overpower it. Using a gobo to block sun light or a diffuser to stop it down is way easier than trying to light a background that may be in shade or trying to use fill to overpower light on your subject. I think we all know and think of using open shade but sometimes there isn't any to be found. You have to make it as you have in your pull back.

    One of things that I read a while ago that just clicked with me is that when lighting your subject, it's all about finding a way to balance them with the light on background elements. You either need to bring up the light on your subject to match a bright BG or bring down the light on them to match a darker BG. Basically thinking the way landscape photogs think when using GND filter to reduce the dynamic range in the scene they're shooting. Instead of a filter, we use other tools to like flash, reflectors, diffusers, and gobos to reduce the dynamic range in our outdoor portraits.
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  • HackboneHackbone Registered Users Posts: 4,027 Major grins
    edited August 23, 2012
    If you want to study some subtractive lighting google Leon Kennamer and his subtractive lighting techniques.
  • AlTheKillerAlTheKiller Registered Users Posts: 192 Major grins
    edited September 3, 2012
    My not so nice set up (very jealous of all of you)

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    Results:

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    hopefully Ill be getting some decent lights here shortly
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