I have tried the iE2 RAW conversions but almost always the images have a slightly grainy appearance , which is annoying espcecially in the sky parts.
Accordingto their description the program is not supposed to sharpen sky colors? Or do I misunderstand something?
Are there some settings regulating this?
thanks in advance!
I agree, I have been particularly displeased with the way my skies come out.
I agree, I have been particularly displeased with the way my skies come out.
is this on the 'preview' in the i2e software itself? Or did you save it, and open it in another program? The 'preview' is pretty bad in certain situations, grain/sharpening wise I've noticed, and the actual image looks a lot better.
is this on the 'preview' in the i2e software itself? Or did you save it, and open it in another program? The 'preview' is pretty bad in certain situations, grain/sharpening wise I've noticed, and the actual image looks a lot better.
It looks better in the preview than it does after I save it and view it in ACDSee.
I did get a reply from Frank Grossmann regarding the grainy sky - I have not tried his recommendations yet. The "local sharpening" control is apparently off by default.
"In the default configuration Image Editor will do a normal unsharp masking of strenght 50. You can change this in the channel settings and use thelocal sharpness enhancement. Only this one will not sharpen sky.If you have a noise problem in the highlights then it may be also good to set highlight enhancement to 0 because this will try to enhance details inthe highlights and accentuate also grain a little bit."
I have tried the iE2 RAW conversions but almost always the images have a slightly grainy appearance , which is annoying espcecially in the sky parts.
Accordingto their description the program is not supposed to sharpen sky colors? Or do I misunderstand something?
Are there some settings regulating this?
I did get a reply from Frank Grossmann regarding the grainy sky - I have not tried his recommendations yet. The "local sharpening" control is apparently off by default.
"In the default configuration Image Editor will do a normal unsharp masking of strenght 50. You can change this in the channel settings and use thelocal sharpness enhancement. Only this one will not sharpen sky.If you have a noise problem in the highlights then it may be also good to set highlight enhancement to 0 because this will try to enhance details inthe highlights and accentuate also grain a little bit."
Thanks for sharing this, luc! I'm not sure I understand it but I'll give it a try.
I just crusied through this thread and didn't see anything about the question I have so I apologize if this has been covered before.
Does the I2E Plug In for Photoshop work with Elements 5.0 or amy I better off getting one of the stand alone programs?
Thanks.
Chuck
Not sure if it works with elements, but I would get the stand alone anyway. I started with the plug in, but the preview window was just too small to make accurate adjustments.
using image editor for RAW files - speed
From my tests I did get the impression that the program could use some additional workflow options for working with RAW files. Currently it is just very, very slow (concerns only RAW).
The speed could hopefully be improved if the next image in the directory could be already loaded and demosaiced in the background and be held available in a cache. It would be great if one could delay the final processing itself for a batch process, to be run after one has gone through all the images and potential adjustments.
At the moment the working with RAW files itself is so slow, that I can only see me using it as a fully automatic process, converting all the images with identical settings and then picking winners and losers from the resulting jpegs.
When working with JPGs as input files indivual adjustments are feasible without problems.
It looks better in the preview than it does after I save it and view it in ACDSee.
I suggest you check your colour profile settings in the channel setup area. This programme lets you control both input and output profiles. Screwed me up for a while. Now I'm getting nice results.
I have been using the ASF (Applied Science Fiction) ROC (restore, balance, correct color) and SHO (shadow highlight) PS plugins for years. They are reasonably fast and work well, but I'm not aware of a batch mode (other than using PS batch automate feature).
I'm wondering whether anyone has used both i2e and the ASF filters and can comment on the relative merits of these filters. I've used the ASF filters to perform very similar correction to the examples on this thread. But the batch mode is an attractive feature, especially since i2e is said to be fast.
I've downloaded and installed the demo version of ie2 on my machine (2GHz Athlon single core, XP Pro SP2, 3GB RAM). The trouble is that every time I tried to run the program, XP kills it because of memory violation. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If yes, what's the fix?
I've downloaded and installed the demo version of ie2 on my machine (2GHz Athlon single core, XP Pro SP2, 3GB RAM). The trouble is that every time I tried to run the program, XP kills it because of memory violation. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If yes, what's the fix?
Many thanks in advance.
Tuan
Please write Colour-Science, they'll answer your question, I'm sure
I suggest you check your colour profile settings in the channel setup area. This programme lets you control both input and output profiles. Screwed me up for a while. Now I'm getting nice results.
Slow sometimes though.
Xris
I finally got back to this Xris and I see what you mean. Thanks that's a lot better!
I have the no downsizing box check but the Image Editor still resizes them from 3888 x 2592 to 1936 x 1288. Any suggestions on keeping the same file size?
Best i2e procedure?
Just got this program and I'm having a little trouble figuring it out. I wondered if someone could give me the best way to auto correct a large number of photos at once?
Just got this program and I'm having a little trouble figuring it out. I wondered if someone could give me the best way to auto correct a large number of photos at once?
First, I suggest you change the default settings. You'll only have to do this once:
1) Open the application and click on "Channel Settings"
2) Click on the "image enchancement tab" and use the settings in the picture here (from top to bottom: 50,50,100,60,100,15,0,0,-20,0,0,0,0)
2b) While in "settings," you may also want to change the input and output folders - you can change these each time you use the app within the main window, but it's easier to set the defaults here, particularly if your images are saved on a separate hard drive. You can also change the "Save Format" if you like to save in tif rather than jpeg.
3) Click on "save" at the top. Click "Okay" on the popup box and "Exit" the settings page.
Normal operation:
1) Using the file browser on the left ("input side") choose the images you want to convert, or if you want to convert all the images in a particular folder, just choose the folder. On the right hand side, choose where you want the images to be saved. (I create a subfolder called "i2e" where I save the finished images.)
2) If you selected individual files for conversion, click on "Process Selected Images." If you're converting an entire folder click on "Process All Images." Sit back and watch, it'll stop when it's finished.
Of course you'll want to look carefully at the results and adjust the specific channel settings to your liking - what I've provided is a good place to start.
Photoshop plug-in or Standalone
I have a question I've been looking into the I2E and have downloaded the plug-in for CS3 and install it (demo only). Which would be the best, plug-in or standalone??
What would you like to do with it?
I believe the plugin is not usable for batch processing and the preview is quite small there (for me I2E makes the most sense as a mass image optimizer).
I have a question I've been looking into the I2E and have downloaded the plug-in for CS3 and install it (demo only). Which would be the best, plug-in or standalone??
I have a question I've been looking into the I2E and have downloaded the plug-in for CS3 and install it (demo only). Which would be the best, plug-in or standalone??
Plug in only allows a small preview. I found it difficult to represent the adjustments I was making. Stand alone is better. I have both, but have not used them since I started using lightroom.
Purchased, but never received email with license
I purchased about a month and a half ago - I entered my email with my purchase info. They charged my card, but never sent me the license. What do I do? Is there a contact for the US?
I purchased about a month and a half ago - I entered my email with my purchase info. They charged my card, but never sent me the license. What do I do? Is there a contact for the US?
Lorrie Prothero
http://www.colour-science.com/ click on "contact" in their navbar. Email them they will sort you out in no time, I'm sure.
Problem Preserving Highlights
I really like i2e, but I'm having a problem finding the right settings to address a specific issue.
My son has -very- blond hair that tends to create overblown highlights in the sun. While I don't expect i2e to recover highlight detail that isn't there, it seems to consistently make the problem worse. Processed images look great in general, but the top of my son's head becomes a featureless white blob, losing what limited detail existed in the original photo.
I've tried adjusting the brightness and highlight settings/sliders, but they don't seem to have a significant effect on this particular problem. Turning off both the color and brightness enhancement checkboxes entirely does preserve the original level of highlight detail, but obviously that severely limits what i2e can do regarding the rest of the image.
Can anyone point me to the right i2e settings that will allow it to "do its thing" but still preserve highlights?
I own i2e Pro 3.0.07 and noticed that 3.1.x is out. But, their ClubSmug pricing doesn't have a price listed for "minor" (3.0 -> 3.1) upgrades, just "major" (2.x -> 3.x).
I wrote to them asking for a price. They said it was $200 (no, that's not a typo) to do a MINOR upgrade. The MAJOR upgrade, as a smugmug price is only $45..... Seems odd that:
1) The upgrade price for a MINOR version is more than the ClubSmug price for a brand new purchase ($150).
2) The upgrade price for a MINOR version is more than four times as expensive as for a MAJOR version upgrade.
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I agree, I have been particularly displeased with the way my skies come out.
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It looks better in the preview than it does after I save it and view it in ACDSee.
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"In the default configuration Image Editor will do a normal unsharp masking of strenght 50. You can change this in the channel settings and use thelocal sharpness enhancement. Only this one will not sharpen sky.If you have a noise problem in the highlights then it may be also good to set highlight enhancement to 0 because this will try to enhance details inthe highlights and accentuate also grain a little bit."
Thanks for sharing this, luc! I'm not sure I understand it but I'll give it a try.
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Hey You'll,
I just crusied through this thread and didn't see anything about the question I have so I apologize if this has been covered before.
Does the I2E Plug In for Photoshop work with Elements 5.0 or amy I better off getting one of the stand alone programs?
Thanks.
Chuck
Not sure if it works with elements, but I would get the stand alone anyway. I started with the plug in, but the preview window was just too small to make accurate adjustments.
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From my tests I did get the impression that the program could use some additional workflow options for working with RAW files. Currently it is just very, very slow (concerns only RAW).
The speed could hopefully be improved if the next image in the directory could be already loaded and demosaiced in the background and be held available in a cache. It would be great if one could delay the final processing itself for a batch process, to be run after one has gone through all the images and potential adjustments.
At the moment the working with RAW files itself is so slow, that I can only see me using it as a fully automatic process, converting all the images with identical settings and then picking winners and losers from the resulting jpegs.
When working with JPGs as input files indivual adjustments are feasible without problems.
I suggest you check your colour profile settings in the channel setup area. This programme lets you control both input and output profiles. Screwed me up for a while. Now I'm getting nice results.
Slow sometimes though.
Xris
I'm wondering whether anyone has used both i2e and the ASF filters and can comment on the relative merits of these filters. I've used the ASF filters to perform very similar correction to the examples on this thread. But the batch mode is an attractive feature, especially since i2e is said to be fast.
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I've downloaded and installed the demo version of ie2 on my machine (2GHz Athlon single core, XP Pro SP2, 3GB RAM). The trouble is that every time I tried to run the program, XP kills it because of memory violation. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If yes, what's the fix?
Many thanks in advance.
Tuan
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I finally got back to this Xris and I see what you mean. Thanks that's a lot better!
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Does anyone know if the Colour-Science i2e Photoshop plug-in works with Adobe Lightroom?
Thanks.
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Just in case someone else has this question, here is the response I got from Colour-Science:
It works with Photoshop Elements but not with Lightroom. Lightroom can not use normal Photoshop plugins.
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Just got this program and I'm having a little trouble figuring it out. I wondered if someone could give me the best way to auto correct a large number of photos at once?
First, I suggest you change the default settings. You'll only have to do this once:
1) Open the application and click on "Channel Settings"
2) Click on the "image enchancement tab" and use the settings in the picture here (from top to bottom: 50,50,100,60,100,15,0,0,-20,0,0,0,0)
2b) While in "settings," you may also want to change the input and output folders - you can change these each time you use the app within the main window, but it's easier to set the defaults here, particularly if your images are saved on a separate hard drive. You can also change the "Save Format" if you like to save in tif rather than jpeg.
3) Click on "save" at the top. Click "Okay" on the popup box and "Exit" the settings page.
Normal operation:
1) Using the file browser on the left ("input side") choose the images you want to convert, or if you want to convert all the images in a particular folder, just choose the folder. On the right hand side, choose where you want the images to be saved. (I create a subfolder called "i2e" where I save the finished images.)
2) If you selected individual files for conversion, click on "Process Selected Images." If you're converting an entire folder click on "Process All Images." Sit back and watch, it'll stop when it's finished.
Of course you'll want to look carefully at the results and adjust the specific channel settings to your liking - what I've provided is a good place to start.
I have a question I've been looking into the I2E and have downloaded the plug-in for CS3 and install it (demo only). Which would be the best, plug-in or standalone??
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I believe the plugin is not usable for batch processing and the preview is quite small there (for me I2E makes the most sense as a mass image optimizer).
Plug in only allows a small preview. I found it difficult to represent the adjustments I was making. Stand alone is better. I have both, but have not used them since I started using lightroom.
Does anyone know if anyone has written an action that will work with bridge.
Thanks again for all your help
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I purchased about a month and a half ago - I entered my email with my purchase info. They charged my card, but never sent me the license. What do I do? Is there a contact for the US?
Lorrie Prothero
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I really like i2e, but I'm having a problem finding the right settings to address a specific issue.
My son has -very- blond hair that tends to create overblown highlights in the sun. While I don't expect i2e to recover highlight detail that isn't there, it seems to consistently make the problem worse. Processed images look great in general, but the top of my son's head becomes a featureless white blob, losing what limited detail existed in the original photo.
I've tried adjusting the brightness and highlight settings/sliders, but they don't seem to have a significant effect on this particular problem. Turning off both the color and brightness enhancement checkboxes entirely does preserve the original level of highlight detail, but obviously that severely limits what i2e can do regarding the rest of the image.
Can anyone point me to the right i2e settings that will allow it to "do its thing" but still preserve highlights?
Thanks!
I wrote to them asking for a price. They said it was $200 (no, that's not a typo) to do a MINOR upgrade. The MAJOR upgrade, as a smugmug price is only $45..... Seems odd that:
1) The upgrade price for a MINOR version is more than the ClubSmug price for a brand new purchase ($150).
2) The upgrade price for a MINOR version is more than four times as expensive as for a MAJOR version upgrade.
Disappointed in the customer service
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