I've found even the newest smugbrowser doesn't save the settings properly to a newly created gallary... I always end up doing it manually to save the public/private/originals/watermark/etc on it... I've never tried starexplorer... anygood?
StarExplorer won't add galleries? I don't use it (since I'm not running windows), but that's one of the things I love about SmugBrowser, is that you can set up galleries through it. I'm surprised that StarExplorer doesn't allow you to do that.
StarExplorer does allow you to create galleries. Because the API has constantly been behind the feature set of the site (not exposing all gallery options), it has usually been the case that I couldn't create and configure the galleries the way I wanted in StarExlorer so I have been creating galleries through the Smugmug site, then doing my uploads in StarExplorer.
For example, just recently I wanted to create a whole bunch of galleries with SmugIsland settings set a particular way. StarExplorer does not support that. I could create them all in StarExplorer, then go finish configuring them in Smugmug, then come back to StarExplorer to upload the images, but that didn't seem any eaiser than creating one in Smugmug, setting it up the way I wanted, saving a "quick settings" rule for it, then creating the rest in Smugmug, assigning the quick settings as part of the create process.
StarExplorer won't add galleries? I don't use it (since I'm not running windows), but that's one of the things I love about SmugBrowser, is that you can set up galleries through it. I'm surprised that StarExplorer doesn't allow you to do that.
StarExplorer does add galleries, serveral galleries, cats and sub-cats.
I've found even the newest smugbrowser doesn't save the settings properly to a newly created gallary... I always end up doing it manually to save the public/private/originals/watermark/etc on it... I've never tried starexplorer... anygood?
Erik,
Can you please bug the specific issues in my SmugBrowser thread ?
StarExplorer does allow you to create galleries. Because the API has constantly been behind the feature set of the site (not exposing all gallery options), it has usually been the case that I couldn't create and configure the galleries the way I wanted in StarExlorer so I have been creating galleries through the Smugmug site, then doing my uploads in StarExplorer.
John,
I think part of the reason here, is that Nik has remained on version 1.1.0 of the API. New features haven't been added to version 1.1.0 for some time. API versions 1.1.1 and 1.2.0 should be fully in sync with the site as it currently stands.
Just Keep It Up!...and see what happens! [...more Smugmug customers, I'll bet!]
You Smugmug people just keep innovating and innovating!... and responding to what customers ask for (sometimes very quickly...and sometimes it takes a bit longer, but seems to eventually "get there")!
WHEN will it ever stop???? NEVER, I hope!
My SmugIsland is working perfectly now, and I love it!
Very nice that you got the alpha-sort on the new ADD button done so quickly, also.
You Smugmug people just keep innovating and innovating!... and responding to what customers ask for (sometimes very quickly...and sometimes it takes a bit longer, but seems to eventually "get there")!
WHEN will it ever stop???? NEVER, I hope!
My SmugIsland is working perfectly now, and I love it!
Very nice that you got the alpha-sort on the new ADD button done so quickly, also.
When I log in to SmugMug with fresh photos I do the following:
1) Say to myself: "Ah, I'd like to add these photos to my SmugMug site".
2) Look for an "add photos" button (now available on any page).
3) Then, I need to decide whether I want to add photos to an existing gallery or create a new gallery for these photos. One click, and I've made my choice.
(...)
Am I missing something? It seems to me like this is a change that'll take our existing SmugMug customers a few minutes (days maybe?) to adjust to, but it speeds up the process without significantly changing the way things work.
Yes, you're missing one thing: the thought process may not be like your 1-2-3.
For me, it can go like that, but it also can go somewhat like this:
I want to show something about <fill in subject> - "subject" becomes gallery name
I start hunting around for photos that match "subject" - "subject" now becomes (abstract) "gallery", already containing my selection of photos
Now I go to SmugMug to add that gallery (photos and all
In this process, the "gallery" already exists in my mind, with a specific collection of photos, before I even log om to SmugMug - at which point clicking an "add gallery" button really is the most logical thing to do!
I don't (necessarily) look at a photo and think "now where shall I add that?", I'd sooner think of a gallery (a subject), and consider "which photos shall I fill it with?".
The point is: there is no one single process. Different people have different processes, in different circumstances. A good user interface caters to different thought processes and different work flows.
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I really like these expandable menu's, hopefully other areas will benefit from this technology as well. (like replacing the current unsorted gallery select dropdown in the Move Photos screen)
I don't really understand here. What is the gripe? You want two separate buttons there, one for "add photos" and one for "new gallery?"
And even though one button can cover both functions, you would rather have two? That's less complicated for users?
One button is great but it says "add photos". If it said "add things" it would in
a lot of minds be more then just add photos. Also I'd like to see "add
category" and "add sub-category" added in the drop also. They are buried
deep in the control panel and have seen many questions that they can't find
them.
Yes (as I've suggested before). To buttons for two functions.
I have to admit, I just don't understand that desire at all. The new button handles both functions elegantly and quickly. Why clutter up the pages and add a second button?
The button was added for two reasons:
#1 - New users didn't know that all photos had to be in a gallery and that creating a gallery was the first step to adding photos. Now, they click "add photos" and are taken through the process.
#2 - Adding photos to an existing gallery was cumbersome, especially if your site was designed around keywords/timeline/etc. rather than categories and galleries.
Frankly, I absolutely love the button. I have a keyword cloud on my homepage and my galleries are hidden in my Control Panel. Not only can I quickly and easily add photos to an existing gallery from many places on my site, but I can also get a nice visual of how my galleries are organized into categories and sub-categories.
Occasionally it requires a single extra click for me to do something, but I actually have to click a lot less often on average.
I guess I just can't understand why 4 or 5 people here think we pulled a Microsoft Bob. At the very worst, you have a single extra click and a few extra seconds spent (once the bugs were fixed).
I think part of the reason here, is that Nik has remained on version 1.1.0 of the API. New features haven't been added to version 1.1.0 for some time. API versions 1.1.1 and 1.2.0 should be fully in sync with the site as it currently stands.
Cheers,
David
Please see this post/thread. Nik seems to think that a whole bunch of options are missing from the latest API. Among them:
Is it really all that hard to put things in alphabetical order?
Nope. In fact, we just did, go check.
I was hoping you had one function that returned the list of galleries and that one function was changed to sort the list before returning it.
It appears this isn't the case as the gallery list drop down on the move photos page is still unsorted. Can you sort that one too, and any other place where we are provided a list of galleries to choose from?
I was hoping you had one function that returned the list of galleries and that one function was changed to sort the list before returning it.
It appears this isn't the case as the gallery list drop down on the move photos page is still unsorted. Can you sort that one too, and any other place where we are provided a list of galleries to choose from?
Sorting would be better than what we have now, but what we really need is the hierarchical gallery picker like the add photos button has. Because of my event photography, I have around 300 galleries, many that have the same name. I can't tell which is which is a flat list of just gallery names. So, I need some category/sub-category info in order to be able to use the UI efficiently. It would be great to add the gallery picker from the Add Photos button to the Move Photos interface. Way more efficient. Already sorted. Removes any ambiguity for like-named galleries. Lots nicer looking.
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StarExplorer does allow you to create galleries. Because the API has constantly been behind the feature set of the site (not exposing all gallery options), it has usually been the case that I couldn't create and configure the galleries the way I wanted in StarExlorer so I have been creating galleries through the Smugmug site, then doing my uploads in StarExplorer.
For example, just recently I wanted to create a whole bunch of galleries with SmugIsland settings set a particular way. StarExplorer does not support that. I could create them all in StarExplorer, then go finish configuring them in Smugmug, then come back to StarExplorer to upload the images, but that didn't seem any eaiser than creating one in Smugmug, setting it up the way I wanted, saving a "quick settings" rule for it, then creating the rest in Smugmug, assigning the quick settings as part of the create process.
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Erik,
Can you please bug the specific issues in my SmugBrowser thread ?
Thanks,
David
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John,
I think part of the reason here, is that Nik has remained on version 1.1.0 of the API. New features haven't been added to version 1.1.0 for some time. API versions 1.1.1 and 1.2.0 should be fully in sync with the site as it currently stands.
Cheers,
David
SmugMug API Developer
My Photos
For all the yelling and screaming in this thread, this is just not such a big deal.
An experienced user figures the button out in about 10 seconds. To an inexperienced user the button probably looks just fine.
I'd say let's get on with other things.
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Thanks again Andy.
That is cool.
My main page takes 5.8 seconds and PhotosByDate gallery takes 9 seconds.
There are only 10 photo images on my PhotosByDate page.
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0.630 seconds for me. But I have a small advantage, of course.
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Thats so neat, Well done Smugmug.
I had no probs anyway with how things were but this is very good:D
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Sorry, I meant "gallery" not "category"...
Ohh ohh, The ability to "Add photos to This Gallery" is indeed missing right now. Andy, can you point this out to the team?
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Yup yup... done. Sorry for not thinking of that to begin with! :devbobo
Bill/John,
This should be working properly now
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That makes me disproportionately happy
You Smugmug people just keep innovating and innovating!... and responding to what customers ask for (sometimes very quickly...and sometimes it takes a bit longer, but seems to eventually "get there")!
WHEN will it ever stop???? NEVER, I hope!
My SmugIsland is working perfectly now, and I love it!
Very nice that you got the alpha-sort on the new ADD button done so quickly, also.
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For me, it can go like that, but it also can go somewhat like this:
- I want to show something about <fill in subject> - "subject" becomes gallery name
- I start hunting around for photos that match "subject" - "subject" now becomes (abstract) "gallery", already containing my selection of photos
- Now I go to SmugMug to add that gallery (photos and all
In this process, the "gallery" already exists in my mind, with a specific collection of photos, before I even log om to SmugMug - at which point clicking an "add gallery" button really is the most logical thing to do!I don't (necessarily) look at a photo and think "now where shall I add that?", I'd sooner think of a gallery (a subject), and consider "which photos shall I fill it with?".
The point is: there is no one single process. Different people have different processes, in different circumstances. A good user interface caters to different thought processes and different work flows.
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And even though one button can cover both functions, you would rather have two? That's less complicated for users?
Look through my eyes on Cultural Surfaces! - customizing... currently in a state between limbo and chaos
I really like these expandable menu's, hopefully other areas will benefit from this technology as well. (like replacing the current unsorted gallery select dropdown in the Move Photos screen)
thanks!
a lot of minds be more then just add photos. Also I'd like to see "add
category" and "add sub-category" added in the drop also. They are buried
deep in the control panel and have seen many questions that they can't find
them.
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I have to admit, I just don't understand that desire at all. The new button handles both functions elegantly and quickly. Why clutter up the pages and add a second button?
The button was added for two reasons:
#1 - New users didn't know that all photos had to be in a gallery and that creating a gallery was the first step to adding photos. Now, they click "add photos" and are taken through the process.
#2 - Adding photos to an existing gallery was cumbersome, especially if your site was designed around keywords/timeline/etc. rather than categories and galleries.
Frankly, I absolutely love the button. I have a keyword cloud on my homepage and my galleries are hidden in my Control Panel. Not only can I quickly and easily add photos to an existing gallery from many places on my site, but I can also get a nice visual of how my galleries are organized into categories and sub-categories.
Occasionally it requires a single extra click for me to do something, but I actually have to click a lot less often on average.
I guess I just can't understand why 4 or 5 people here think we pulled a Microsoft Bob. At the very worst, you have a single extra click and a few extra seconds spent (once the bugs were fixed).
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I was hoping you had one function that returned the list of galleries and that one function was changed to sort the list before returning it.
It appears this isn't the case as the gallery list drop down on the move photos page is still unsorted. Can you sort that one too, and any other place where we are provided a list of galleries to choose from?
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Sorting would be better than what we have now, but what we really need is the hierarchical gallery picker like the add photos button has. Because of my event photography, I have around 300 galleries, many that have the same name. I can't tell which is which is a flat list of just gallery names. So, I need some category/sub-category info in order to be able to use the UI efficiently. It would be great to add the gallery picker from the Add Photos button to the Move Photos interface. Way more efficient. Already sorted. Removes any ambiguity for like-named galleries. Lots nicer looking.
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