My card? any comments?
This is my new card... i think. I am going to send it off to the printers tomorrow. wanted some opinions if you had the time. thanks:D
Michael - Life's Disciple "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi www.lifesdisciple.com
I second this. I have never figured out why so many businesses that have their own domain name still advertise another company in their e-mail address.
Not to mention the fact that you are at the mercy of that other company changing their domain name (it's happened a lot, especially with ISP domains) which results in headaches for you.
By the way, Michael, I like the second design the best.
how's this with the new email. i set up a forwarder. this way i don't have to check too many emails. have 3 already.
Looks good to me! Though I always prefer e-mail addresses in all lowercase (though the first part is always case insensitive). Just a personal nit, I'm a professional sysadmin.
... though the first part is always case insensitive ...
Actually, it's the other way around.
According to RFC 2821 and earlier RFC 821 which 2821 obsoleted, the first part, known as the "local-part" of an e-mail address must be treated as case sensitive. The domain is not case sensitive. In particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
I've been supporting and developing Internet e-mail delivery and routing since 1998 and did encounter a few mail server implementations that were treating the local-part as case sensitive (discovered this because our applications treated the local-part as case-insensitive). We changed our apps to follow the RFC and at this point I'm unaware if there are any mail servers currently in use that make use of the case-sensitivity, however it's still part of the accepted "standard".
I agree that the e-mail address should be printed as all lowercase, *if* your mail server treats the address as case-insensitive.
According to RFC 2821 and earlier RFC 821 which 2821 obsoleted, the first part, known as the "local-part" of an e-mail address must be treated as case sensitive. The domain is not case sensitive. In particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
I've been supporting and developing Internet e-mail delivery and routing since 1998 and did encounter a few mail server implementations that were treating the local-part as case sensitive (discovered this because our applications treated the local-part as case-insensitive). We changed our apps to follow the RFC and at this point I'm unaware if there are any mail servers currently in use that make use of the case-sensitivity, however it's still part of the accepted "standard".
I agree that the e-mail address should be printed as all lowercase, *if* your mail server treats the address as case-insensitive.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know any of that. I like having my name in proper in my email address, but, wanted to make sure it didn't effect getting mail. So I sent a test mail to both. The way it is and the way it is but with a lower case m. They both get there. I will add another forwarder to my domain if it allows, with an uppercase M and see what happens. Just to cover my ass. Thanks again.
Michael - Life's Disciple "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi www.lifesdisciple.com
I will add another forwarder to my domain if it allows, with an uppercase M and see what happens. Just to cover my ass. Thanks again.
If you mail server accepts the mail as case-insensitive then you are okay.
Several years ago there was an extremely small percentage of mail servers that used a case-sensitive local-part. Today, I have no idea what the percentage is if any. Mailers (the applications that deliver and route Internet e-mail) are suppose to maintain the case of the local-part as the mail traverses throught their systems, just in case the final destination is case-sensitive. This is all technical details that the general Internet user doesn't really need to be concerned with, but it causes headaches for those of us who write the applications to move your mail from one point to another.
Therefore, SMTP implementations MUST take care to preserve the case of mailbox local-parts. Mailbox domains are not case sensitive. In particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
Thankfully, most implementations don't impede interoperabliity.
Now back to your regularly scheduled business card (which I still like).
My first attempt as well... looking for feedback... My goals are to keep it simple, get the information across... things aren't lined up, and sizes are still a bit undetermined, but this is the basic layout.
Matthew SavilleRegistered Users, Retired ModPosts: 3,352Major grins
edited January 2, 2007
In response to both of the latest business cards:
Black looks slick, but I'd contemplate leaving the back white if I were either of you. Why? You can't really jot a quick note on black. I frequently give out cards with a little reminder on the back to help the person remember something in particular, maybe where they met me, a password to a gallery, etc. etc.
Here's my business cards again:
Printed as a 4x6" print and cut into fourths. (2x3")
-Matt-
After making an ass outta myself with my last idea....miss spellings.....clutter and all.
Here is my "REVISED" Error proof....simpler version!
This better guys?
You think it'll be readable at Biz card standard size?
Comments?
No, that's poor design. Graphy, do yourself a favor, and get a copy of this book. It's a great primer on basic design concepts. I've learned a ton from it. It's slim, easy to read and very helpful.
Black looks slick, but I'd contemplate leaving the back white if I were either of you. Why? You can't really jot a quick note on black. I frequently give out cards with a little reminder on the back to help the person remember something in particular, maybe where they met me, a password to a gallery, etc. etc.
Here's my business cards again:
Printed as a 4x6" print and cut into fourths. (2x3")
-Matt-
No, that's poor design. Graphy, do yourself a favor, and get a copy of this book. It's a great primer on basic design concepts. I've learned a ton from it. It's slim, easy to read and very helpful.
Ok thanx for your honesty......back to the drawing board! :cry
Ok thanx for your honesty......back to the drawing board! :cry
Hey, it's just my opinion!
If you want to go through the card and talk about what works/what doesn't I'd be happy to help, but really, the best help I can give you is for you to read that book.
I am waiting for the day the world drops this also. We all still use it & my mum (she is 70) would stop dead if she had add it herself.
Maybe we could start a web page & get a movement going to drop it worldwide.
Did you know that you can simply hit the ctrl key whilst hitting the enter key to get IE or firefox to add all the crap that nobody likes to type? Type in "dgrin" (no quotes or anything else) in your address bar and hit ctrl-enter. It'll change into http://www.dgrin.com/ automatically.
I now return you to your originally scheduled thread topic.
Matthew, me no likey the script-ish font. If you care, that's my opinion.
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
If you want to go through the card and talk about what works/what doesn't I'd be happy to help, but really, the best help I can give you is for you to read that book.
No no don't get me wrong!
I want honesty.....actually after reading this whole thread I'm amazed at how many others got the whip!
Many of the cards I have seen here are way better than mine and yet they still went to the gallows.
No I'm not a graphic designer and never will be. Hell I can't even draw a stick figure!
Figured the Photo conveys the style of Photography I like to do and was straight to the point/readable.
Either way it looks more professional than writing everything down on a piece of paper and handing it off.
Just a small note on my part....
If I wanted to learn with books I'd go to Barnes and Knoble or the Library.
Thus I'd have no need for Photography Forums.
Sometimes it's more helpful to learn from others than to plod threw books.
How long would it take to become a Mechanic if ya had to learn it all from books?
How much more could you learn with "hands on" with a actual Mechanic that has years of experience?
That doesn't mean the Mechanic treats you like your and idiot cuz you don't know what ball joint is.
But yet takes the time to tell you what it does and shows you how to replace it.
That's what I thought these forums are for?
Not all of us are a wiz at Photography or Graphic Design....thus we look to those who are on these forums to learn.
This IS NOT directed at you....but I've noticed that happening more and more on the forums.
Some are trying to be helpful and some.....
EGO? Dunno if I'd got that far....but maybe?
This IS NOT directed at you....but I've noticed that happening more and more on the forums.
EGO? Dunno if I'd got that far....but maybe?
FWIW, I'd say call it out when you see that kind of thing happening. You'll get the mod's support every time if someone's being a jerk, and maybe a fresh perspective if they're not.
Sound fair?
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
Comments
I was going to use this one below but my boys got mad, lol.
I guess you guys are still looking at this thread? Who knows, but I thought I would share.
This is my new card... i think. I am going to send it off to the printers tomorrow. wanted some opinions if you had the time. thanks:D
Michael - Life's Disciple
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
www.lifesdisciple.com
I like it. Try centering the picture, and then moving Life's Disciple so that it's left justified with the picture.
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
I like it. I hope it looks as good when in business card size (I hope the images aren't too small).
If you have your own domain, I would suggest getting an e-mail address for it. me@lifesdisciple.com, or michael@lifesdisciple.com.
Very nice design, though.
like this? think this looks better or the other way?
Michael - Life's Disciple
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
www.lifesdisciple.com
I like it that way. See what others think. I'd bring the apostrophe down a bit...
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
how's that?
Michael - Life's Disciple
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
www.lifesdisciple.com
Nice!
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
how's this with the new email. i set up a forwarder. this way i don't have to check too many emails. have 3 already.
Michael - Life's Disciple
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
www.lifesdisciple.com
Not to mention the fact that you are at the mercy of that other company changing their domain name (it's happened a lot, especially with ISP domains) which results in headaches for you.
By the way, Michael, I like the second design the best.
Looks good to me! Though I always prefer e-mail addresses in all lowercase (though the first part is always case insensitive). Just a personal nit, I'm a professional sysadmin.
Actually, it's the other way around.
According to RFC 2821 and earlier RFC 821 which 2821 obsoleted, the first part, known as the "local-part" of an e-mail address must be treated as case sensitive. The domain is not case sensitive. In particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
I've been supporting and developing Internet e-mail delivery and routing since 1998 and did encounter a few mail server implementations that were treating the local-part as case sensitive (discovered this because our applications treated the local-part as case-insensitive). We changed our apps to follow the RFC and at this point I'm unaware if there are any mail servers currently in use that make use of the case-sensitivity, however it's still part of the accepted "standard".
I agree that the e-mail address should be printed as all lowercase, *if* your mail server treats the address as case-insensitive.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know any of that. I like having my name in proper in my email address, but, wanted to make sure it didn't effect getting mail. So I sent a test mail to both. The way it is and the way it is but with a lower case m. They both get there. I will add another forwarder to my domain if it allows, with an uppercase M and see what happens. Just to cover my ass. Thanks again.
Michael - Life's Disciple
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
www.lifesdisciple.com
If you mail server accepts the mail as case-insensitive then you are okay.
Several years ago there was an extremely small percentage of mail servers that used a case-sensitive local-part. Today, I have no idea what the percentage is if any. Mailers (the applications that deliver and route Internet e-mail) are suppose to maintain the case of the local-part as the mail traverses throught their systems, just in case the final destination is case-sensitive. This is all technical details that the general Internet user doesn't really need to be concerned with, but it causes headaches for those of us who write the applications to move your mail from one point to another.
From RFC 2821:
Therefore, SMTP implementations MUST take care to preserve the case of mailbox local-parts. Mailbox domains are not case sensitive. In particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
Thankfully, most implementations don't impede interoperabliity.
Now back to your regularly scheduled business card (which I still like).
front:
back:
Manfrotto Mono | Bag- LowePro Slingshot 100AW
http://www.graphyfotoz.smugmug.com/
Black looks slick, but I'd contemplate leaving the back white if I were either of you. Why? You can't really jot a quick note on black. I frequently give out cards with a little reminder on the back to help the person remember something in particular, maybe where they met me, a password to a gallery, etc. etc.
Here's my business cards again:
Printed as a 4x6" print and cut into fourths. (2x3")
-Matt-
My SmugMug Portfolio • My Astro-Landscape Photo Blog • Dgrin Weddings Forum
Nice first attempt... I think that it is a bit too cluttered as you suggest and there are a few spelling errors that I can see.
I think that there is maybe too much information on the card... That being said, I love the picture that you have choosen. Very nice!
Lee
Thanx......
My "signature" pic from my main smugmug galleries.
After making an ass outta myself with my last idea....miss spellings.....clutter and all.
Here is my "REVISED" Error proof....simpler version!
This better guys?
You think it'll be readable at Biz card standard size?
Comments?
Manfrotto Mono | Bag- LowePro Slingshot 100AW
http://www.graphyfotoz.smugmug.com/
No, that's poor design. Graphy, do yourself a favor, and get a copy of this book. It's a great primer on basic design concepts. I've learned a ton from it. It's slim, easy to read and very helpful.
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
Nice cards.
A few comments.
Do you really need www.?
I like the font, but really dislike the broken "S". Maybe I'm just not getting it at this size, but it just looks broken.
Your text is too crowded to the edge, IMO.
For my money, it's the rainbow shot. But what's with the ghosted Matthew Saville?
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
Ok thanx for your honesty......back to the drawing board! :cry
Manfrotto Mono | Bag- LowePro Slingshot 100AW
http://www.graphyfotoz.smugmug.com/
Hey, it's just my opinion!
If you want to go through the card and talk about what works/what doesn't I'd be happy to help, but really, the best help I can give you is for you to read that book.
Dgrin FAQ | Me | Workshops
Maybe we could start a web page & get a movement going to drop it worldwide.
I now return you to your originally scheduled thread topic.
Matthew, me no likey the script-ish font. If you care, that's my opinion.
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
No no don't get me wrong!
I want honesty.....actually after reading this whole thread I'm amazed at how many others got the whip!
Many of the cards I have seen here are way better than mine and yet they still went to the gallows.
No I'm not a graphic designer and never will be. Hell I can't even draw a stick figure!
Figured the Photo conveys the style of Photography I like to do and was straight to the point/readable.
Either way it looks more professional than writing everything down on a piece of paper and handing it off.
Just a small note on my part....
If I wanted to learn with books I'd go to Barnes and Knoble or the Library.
Thus I'd have no need for Photography Forums.
Sometimes it's more helpful to learn from others than to plod threw books.
How long would it take to become a Mechanic if ya had to learn it all from books?
How much more could you learn with "hands on" with a actual Mechanic that has years of experience?
That doesn't mean the Mechanic treats you like your and idiot cuz you don't know what ball joint is.
But yet takes the time to tell you what it does and shows you how to replace it.
That's what I thought these forums are for?
Not all of us are a wiz at Photography or Graphic Design....thus we look to those who are on these forums to learn.
This IS NOT directed at you....but I've noticed that happening more and more on the forums.
Some are trying to be helpful and some.....
EGO? Dunno if I'd got that far....but maybe?
Manfrotto Mono | Bag- LowePro Slingshot 100AW
http://www.graphyfotoz.smugmug.com/
Sound fair?
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/