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The Best of the Glacier Shootout

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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,913 moderator
    edited November 16, 2007
    gus wrote:
    Sooo can we post a 'on the way to glacier' shot ? I totally suck at landscapes.
    Yeah. I think you could and should.
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    ian408 wrote:
    Yeah. I think you could and should.

    Same mountain range right ? sort of ?

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    DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited November 16, 2007
    gus wrote:
    Same mountain range right ? sort of ?
    got it thumb.gif
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    DavidTO wrote:
    Keep 'em coming, folks! :D

    HINT: There will be something cool at the end of this! mwink.gif


    OK, so I guess it's time to spill the beans, or, er, uh, Markham has already spilled them!

    We'll be publishing a Blurb book of the Best of Glacier. The special deal that we get is outlined in the post from Markham I linked above.

    So, here's the deal: GET YOUR IMAGES INTO US, and we'll get them in the book. Then other Dgrinners can purchase the book, and get free shipping. Schmoo will be putting the book together. She write good! :D

    Spread the word, and if you've been slacking on getting your images in, get on it!

    We'll have the book ready for purchase some time after the 1st of the year. thumb.gif
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    IemIem Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited November 16, 2007
    Mike Iems photos
    here are my photos. I am just a beginner!!
    http://iem.smugmug.com/

    thanks,
    Mike
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    Iem wrote:
    here are my photos. I am just a beginner!!
    http://iem.smugmug.com/

    thanks,
    Mike

    Whoa, Nellie!

    You have to pick your best shots! Put a link up here to one, two shots, k? thumb.gif
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    gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    Cool news David. Is there any prefered size ratio or format, portrait or landscape? I would assume extra long panos would be hard to fit onto the page of a book?
    Nick
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    Travel = good. Woo, shooting!
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    gluwater wrote:
    Is there any prefered size ratio or format, portrait or landscape? I would assume extra long panos would be hard to fit onto the page of a book?
    From my experiences with Blurb so far that sort of thing doesn't matter. Extra long panos will, of course, be smaller in the final product due to the fact that the page is only so big, so it's either squish small or crop ends off. But the nice thing is that the slurp program gives LOTS of options as to how to fit them onto a page and you can be sure that the utmost consideration will be taken to showcase each shot so that it looks its best. :D
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    DavidTO wrote:
    OK, so I guess it's time to spill the beans, or, er, uh, Markham has already spilled them!

    We'll be publishing a Blurb book of the Best of Glacier. The special deal that we get is outlined in the post from Markham I linked above.

    So, here's the deal: GET YOUR IMAGES INTO US, and we'll get them in the book. Then other Dgrinners can purchase the book, and get free shipping. Schmoo will be putting the book together. She write good! :D

    Spread the word, and if you've been slacking on getting your images in, get on it!

    We'll have the book ready for purchase some time after the 1st of the year. thumb.gif
    I dont know if mine should really be in it as it isnt Glacier so it might be better to leave it out.
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 16, 2007
    gus wrote:
    I dont know if mine should really be in it as it isnt Glacier so it might be better to leave it out.

    Coulda fooled me. That shot looks just like that stretch of road between Babb and St Marys that we traveled 89823487634587 times. headscratch.gif
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 17, 2007
    schmoo wrote:
    Coulda fooled me. That shot looks just like that stretch of road between Babb and St Marys that we traveled 89823487634587 times. headscratch.gif
    I forget...it was a good deal south. Ian will know.
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    SkippySkippy Registered Users Posts: 12,075 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2007
    Leaving Glacier ......... Hope you like it thumb.gif ... Skippy :D

    http://ozzieskip.smugmug.com/gallery/3664627#223116912-A-LB

    Here's the smaller version.

    223116912-L.jpg

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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 20, 2007
    Thanks Skippy, and great shot! The gallery has been updated. :D
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    gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited November 21, 2007
    Here's #2 from me. I don't know if you want to use the previous one I submitted since it was taken on the pre-shoot. It's up to you guys, use it or lose it.

    http://gluwater.smugmug.com/photos/223890413-L.jpg
    Sunrise at Many Glacier in IR
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 21, 2007
    Added! We seem to have a bit of variety in these shots, and only two from you. :)
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2007
    Marc, Dave Porter and I will be putting some pics in the book, too thumb.gif

    We'll get 'em to DavidTO next week.
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    Marc, Dave Porter and I will be putting some pics in the book, too thumb.gif

    We'll get 'em to DavidTO next week.

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    IemIem Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited November 27, 2007
    I picked 2
    DavidTO wrote:
    Whoa, Nellie!

    You have to pick your best shots! Put a link up here to one, two shots, k? thumb.gif

    OK. I picked 2. here they are. Not sure they are the best ones but I like them.
    http://iem.smugmug.com/gallery/3900903#226257230

    Mike
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited November 28, 2007
    Mike, added! thumb.gif

    Do you have titles for these?
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    DavidTO wrote:
    OK, so I guess it's time to spill the beans, or, er, uh, Markham has already spilled them!

    We'll be publishing a Blurb book of the Best of Glacier. The special deal that we get is outlined in the post from Markham I linked above.

    So, here's the deal: GET YOUR IMAGES INTO US, and we'll get them in the book. Then other Dgrinners can purchase the book, and get free shipping. Schmoo will be putting the book together. She write good! :D

    Spread the word, and if you've been slacking on getting your images in, get on it!

    We'll have the book ready for purchase some time after the 1st of the year. thumb.gif


    Just to be really clear on this, the book is not being published by SmugMug or Blurb, it's being published by the Dgrin Community as a way to celebrate a fun, inspirational and educational event. Blurb is offering a discount to SmugMug peeps, but the book is by you and for you.

    It'll be a great keepsake of the trip. wings.gif
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    DavidTO wrote:
    Just to be really clear on this, the book is not being published by SmugMug or Blurb, it's being published by the Dgrin Community as a way to celebrate a fun, inspirational and educational event. Blurb is offering a discount to SmugMug peeps, but the book is by you and for you.

    It'll be a great keepsake of the trip. wings.gif
    I'm really shocked and surprised that many of you think we want to make money on this.

    TO BE CLEAR: Smuggy wants no part of making any profit on you, your photos of Glacier, from this book.

    It's just a fun idea for those who went on the trip. I'm looking forward to my copy thumb.gif
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    davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited December 1, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    I'm really shocked and surprised that many of you think we want to make money on this.

    TO BE CLEAR: Smuggy wants no part of making any profit on you, your photos of Glacier, from this book.

    It's just a fun idea for those who went on the trip. I'm looking forward to my copy thumb.gif

    Well, as one (maybe the only one) that decided to opt out of the book, I'll try
    to explain why.

    I was one of the first to add my two shots to the gallery. After about a month,
    it was announced that "We" (at that time I had no idea who "We" were)
    were going to make a book with the shots.
    Nothing was said how many books were being made, or if our shots would
    be used in other ways. (ie promotions, whatnot)

    The email that David sent was very vague, at one point it says "if you want
    to opt out just say so.", then the next line in the email says "if you have a
    problem with us using your images say so."
    If I opt out of the book, what other ways of using them are we talking about?
    What am I giving you (we, them, us) the right to use the shots for?

    Am I just paranoid? Maybe. Lets just say at 49 years old, I've been stepped
    on a few times in my life. I'm a little more careful now.

    If you would be willing to do something for me (to end my paranoia),
    Send me (others) an email saying that my (our) shots would be used only to create
    XXX number of books. Have someone with the authority (Andy, Baldy, whoever)
    to electronically sign it, and I'm back in. (but I want the cover)mwink.gifmwink.gifmwink.gif (just kidding)

    Now that I am the most hated man on the dgrin forums, and I'm sure some
    will think that I'm an ungrateful S.O.B., I'm really not. I enjoyed the trip,
    loved talking to the new folks, and the folks from the year before.
    I even like the idea of the book, I just like to have my bases covered.

    Hopefully that doesn't make me the bad guy.

    P.S. Just how large (in inches) is the book going to be?
    The largest shots on my site are 1200 x 800, how large are they going to be printed?
    I guess I just ask to many questions.ne_nau.gif
    dave.

    Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    Hi Dave, don't worry and I'm glad this issue is being raised because you bring up good points. As this is the maiden voyage of the Dgrin/SM/Blurb community project it's great that these questions are being raised sooner than later. I think it's more than fair for all of us as photographers to make sure our bases are covered and our artwork is protected. :D

    I will let Andy or Markham address the legal stuffs but I can tell you that we'll end up going with the standard landscape book format. The optimal sizes for the very largest (full bleed) containers in the book layouts are ~2888 pixels on the longest side but if the photos that you submit are smaller than that then there are many many ways to get them in at lower resolution, too.

    For information purposes, for design reasons I won't be making every photo a full-bleed page but the max possible in the landscape format book is 8.2 inches by 9.6 inches.

    I hope this helps!
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    davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    Thanks Schmoo.

    I know Kate wants to get a couple of shots up, she just hasn't decided which ones yet.
    OK, I (we) haven't gone through all of her shots yet. How was I to know that
    she was going to be trigger happy? She hasn't taken 200 pictures in the last
    2 years, on this trip, 1900. ne_nau.gif
    dave.

    Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    davev wrote:
    Well, as one (maybe the only one) that decided to opt out of the book, I'll try
    to explain why.

    I was one of the first to add my two shots to the gallery. After about a month,
    it was announced that "We" (at that time I had no idea who "We" were)
    were going to make a book with the shots.
    Nothing was said how many books were being made, or if our shots would
    be used in other ways. (ie promotions, whatnot)

    The email that David sent was very vague, at one point it says "if you want
    to opt out just say so.", then the next line in the email says "if you have a
    problem with us using your images say so."
    If I opt out of the book, what other ways of using them are we talking about?
    What am I giving you (we, them, us) the right to use the shots for?

    Am I just paranoid? Maybe. Lets just say at 49 years old, I've been stepped
    on a few times in my life. I'm a little more careful now.

    If you would be willing to do something for me (to end my paranoia),
    Send me (others) an email saying that my (our) shots would be used only to create
    XXX number of books. Have someone with the authority (Andy, Baldy, whoever)
    to electronically sign it, and I'm back in. (but I want the cover)mwink.gifmwink.gifmwink.gif (just kidding)

    Now that I am the most hated man on the dgrin forums, and I'm sure some
    will think that I'm an ungrateful S.O.B., I'm really not. I enjoyed the trip,
    loved talking to the new folks, and the folks from the year before.
    I even like the idea of the book, I just like to have my bases covered.

    Hopefully that doesn't make me the bad guy.

    P.S. Just how large (in inches) is the book going to be?
    The largest shots on my site are 1200 x 800, how large are they going to be printed?
    I guess I just ask to many questions.ne_nau.gif

    I think that the book is for the people who went on the trip. Who else is gonna buy it? I doubt anyone. Certainly there's no profit on the book. It was just a fun idea, and I think you misunderstood. Or we could have explained better. Sure your concerns are valid, Dave, but nobody's trying to make a buck from you or your images here.
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    ttorres33ttorres33 Registered Users Posts: 22 Big grins
    edited December 7, 2007
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    PhyxiusPhyxius Registered Users Posts: 1,396 Major grins
    edited December 7, 2007
    I know a final submit date was set...but I can't find it anywhere....

    Does anyone remember or have the info handy?
    Christina Dale
    SmugMug Support Specialist - www.help.smugmug.com

    http://www.phyxiusphotos.com
    Equine Photography in Maryland - Dressage, Eventing, Hunters, Jumpers
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    davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited December 7, 2007
    Phyxius wrote:
    I know a final submit date was set...but I can't find it anywhere....

    Does anyone remember or have the info handy?

    I believe it was 12-25-07.
    dave.

    Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2007
    davev wrote:
    I believe it was 12-25-07.


    Yes, but really we were just thinking about putting the book together after the first of the year. The deadline's not set in stone, but more of a goal to work towards. Let us know what you need! This book is by the community, and for the community. A deadline shouldn't stand in the way of everyone participating!
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    PhyxiusPhyxius Registered Users Posts: 1,396 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2007
    Thanks guys, now I just have to decide which pictures to send in. You guys should know by now that I am not very decisive. Any suggestions?
    Christina Dale
    SmugMug Support Specialist - www.help.smugmug.com

    http://www.phyxiusphotos.com
    Equine Photography in Maryland - Dressage, Eventing, Hunters, Jumpers
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