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New! SmugMug "Stretchy" -- Help, Questions here

AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
edited March 24, 2008 in SmugMug Support
Here is the place to discuss the newest upgrade to SmugMug style "stretchy" and how your galleries can now go big and wiiiide :ivar

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Want to play? Go here and simply resize your browser window. FAQs? You bet, right here.

Holler here if you have any questions, or need any help with the feature. If you have customizing questions, they go here in this thread.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Q: Does it work in all viewing styles?
    A: Only "smugmug" viewing style stretches, currently.

    Q: I have a small monitor, can I see what it looks like?
    A: You bet - right here and arrow forward to see bigger and bigger monitors/resolutions.

    Q: Do themes stretch?
    A: Most do, some don't... yet. Themes that don't stretch will appear just as they always have.

    Themes that stretch: Blue, Fuchsia, Gold, Green, Khaki, Orange, Red, Tan, Teal, White, Yellow, Black Arts, Black and White, Fresh Air, Hitched, It's A Girl!, The Graduate, Bewitched, Gradient Grey, Gradient White, SmugMug Classic, SmugMug Dashed, SmugMug Gradient, and Blue Lagoon.


    Q: Why do only some of my galleries stretch?
    A: Check to see if you have a non-stretchy theme set for that gallery.

    Q: What if I don't want my visitors to see my photos bigger?
    A: No worries, we still honor the "largest display size" selected in your customize gallery settings. We'll only show the display sizes you allow.

    Tip: If you are a Pro on SmugMug, let your visitors admire larger display sizes, and protect your photos with a custom watermark. Great example.

    Q: Will the thumbnails get bigger as the page stretches?
    A: No, you'll get more thumbnails on the page but each thumbnail will stay the same size.

    Q: Can I force the number of thumbs that display?
    A: No. When your gallery stretches, we automatically fill the browser window with thumbnails.

    Q: I'm a power or pro, can I opt-out of stretchy?
    A: Sure. If you'd rather your visitors not see more thumbnails on the page, for whatever reason, just go to your customization page and toggle the stretchy option to "no".

    Q: Can I still force "smugmug small" viewing style?
    A: If you are a power or pro user, you can still force "smugmug small" viewing style in your customize gallery settings
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    PBolchoverPBolchover Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Yippee. Even though the Old Family Album isn't stetchy (hint, hint), it looks excellent when I change the page style.

    I notice that stretchy is by default set to off in the customisation settings.

    One final request - it would be nice to be able to switch it on and off in individual galleries...

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    jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    PBolchover wrote:
    Yippee. Even though the Old Family Album isn't stetchy (hint, hint), it looks excellent when I change the page style.

    I notice that stretchy is by default set to off in the customisation settings.

    One final request - it would be nice to be able to switch it on and off in individual galleries...

    clap.gifclapclap.gifclapwings.gifbarbwings.gifbeerbeer.gifbeer

    In a quick look at the Javascript for stretchiness, it looks like there probably is a way to control whether a gallery is stretchy or not from Javascript or at least what the largest size is that it can be stretched to.

    Andy, any guidance from your web wizards on Javascript control over stretchiness? That would allow you to write JS that looks at the gallery and decides whether to turn stretchiness on or not. I, personally want it on everywhere.
    --John
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    SheafSheaf Registered Users, SmugMug Product Team Posts: 775 SmugMug Employee
    edited November 30, 2007
    PBolchover wrote:
    Yippee. Even though the Old Family Album isn't stetchy (hint, hint), it looks excellent when I change the page style.

    I notice that stretchy is by default set to off in the customisation settings.

    One final request - it would be nice to be able to switch it on and off in individual galleries...

    clap.gifclapclap.gifclapwings.gifbarbwings.gifbeerbeer.gifbeer

    Stretchy is off by default for anyone that had custom CSS prior to today.

    As for switching it off and on for individual galleries, you can do that through CSS or by creating custom themes and making that particular theme not stretch. Then you could just apply that theme instead of the standard theme on each gallery you wanted to not stretch.
    SmugMug Product Manager
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    bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited November 30, 2007
    PBolchover wrote:
    Yippee. Even though the Old Family Album isn't stetchy (hint, hint), it looks excellent when I change the page style.

    I notice that stretchy is by default set to off in the customisation settings.

    One final request - it would be nice to be able to switch it on and off in individual galleries...

    clap.gifclapclap.gifclapwings.gifbarbwings.gifbeerbeer.gifbeer
    its only set to off if you had existing customization. If you had no css customization, it would default to 'on'.
    Pedal faster
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    DnaDna Registered Users Posts: 435 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Absolutely fantastic.

    Excellent addition to the gallery display.

    clap.gifclapclap.gifclap:ivar:ivar:ivarbowdown.gifbowbowdown.gifbow

    Andrew
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    DJ-S1DJ-S1 Registered Users Posts: 2,303 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Stretchy goodness and it even works across dual monitors! clap.gifSweet!
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    DJ-S1 wrote:
    Stretchy goodness and it even works across dual monitors! clap.gifSweet!
    lol3.gif yah you can get insane if you like - here's 2x30" monitors

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    Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Not meaning to be totally clueless (but I am), I cannot figure out where to look for this - how to turn it on? Is it a theme, or a style, do you access it from the control panel or gallery by gallery in customize? deal.gifne_nau.gif

    Brain very dull...please hep

    and I do have my site customized, if that makes a difference.

    ann
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    denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,253 moderator
    edited November 30, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    lol3.gif yah you can get insane if you like - here's 2x30" monitors
    Andy -
    Is that your puppy? Give him (or her) a hug for me, looks like a wonderful pet!

    --- Denise
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    devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited November 30, 2007
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Not meaning to be totally clueless (but I am), I cannot figure out where to look for this - how to turn it on? Is it a theme, or a style, do you access it from the control panel or gallery by gallery in customize? deal.gifne_nau.gif

    Brain very dull...please hep

    and I do have my site customized, if that makes a difference.

    ann

    Ann,

    You enable it globally from Control Panel->Customize tab->Customize link

    Cheers,

    David
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Brain very dull...please hep

    and I do have my site customized, if that makes a difference.

    ann
    Ann,

    If you have customizing questions, they go here in this thread. We'll be happy to help :D
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    Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Got it - thanks Dave and Andy. thumb.gif

    Should that have been obvious? I really am feeling thick as a post right now - do not operate heavy machinery warning!

    ann
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 30, 2007
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Got it - thanks Dave and Andy. thumb.gif

    Should that have been obvious? I really am feeling thick as a post right now - do not operate heavy machinery warning!

    ann
    Nah, that's what we're here for thumb.gif
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    scwalterscwalter Registered Users Posts: 417 Major grins
    edited December 1, 2007
    First, let me say clap.gif.

    Second, mine didn't work at first because I had this:

    SM.SmugMug.config.size = 'large';

    in my javascript to force large style. Once removed, it's fine. Just an FYI in case anyone else had this hack.

    -Scott
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    scwalter.smugmug.com
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    bump :)
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,012 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    I force the Smugmug style just about everywhere. But Smugmug style went
    from 15 to 12 (bad) thumbs in my view window and Smugmug small from 9 to
    16 (good).

    Why can't a minimum of 15 be set for the smugmug style. I checked my
    stats and approx. 95% are viewing in an equal or lower res. I don't want to
    have to stretch my window every time I go there and it's a pita looking
    through more pages for something.

    Just had to rant.:D
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    Allen wrote:
    Just had to rant.:D

    Don't worry, rant away :D We're already working on making the 12 thing go away :)

    Stay tuned please, thanks!
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,012 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    Andy wrote:
    Don't worry, rant away :D We're already working on making the 12 thing go away :)

    Stay tuned please, thanks!
    Thanks Andy, just squeakin', thought the word minimum might trigger a
    Neuron or two.:D
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 2, 2007
    Allen wrote:
    Thanks Andy, just squeakin', thought the word minimum might trigger a
    Neuron or two.:D
    To be clear: The idea is, if you were on 1024x768 before Stretchy, and you had 15thumbs, you'd still get 15 thumbs with Stretchy :)

    If you are smaller, you'll get fewer thumbs.
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,012 Major grins
    edited December 3, 2007
    The Photo Information box jumps back to the top left of the main image with
    every photo change no mater where I place it. Was this intentional? Does
    it in every smugmug style gallery.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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    denisegoldbergdenisegoldberg Administrators Posts: 14,253 moderator
    edited December 3, 2007
    Allen wrote:
    The Photo Information box jumps back to the top left of the main image with
    every photo change no mater where I place it. Was this intentional? Does
    it in every smugmug style gallery.
    Interesting... I just ran a test with my own galleries in both IE7 and Firefox on XP, and the photo information box stays whereever I place it. I wonder what the difference is (besides that I'm running on Windows and you're on a Mac, right?). Tried your galleries too, behavior is the same as it is with mine.

    --- Denise
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,012 Major grins
    edited December 3, 2007
    Interesting... I just ran a test with my own galleries in both IE7 and Firefox on XP, and the photo information box stays whereever I place it. I wonder what the difference is (besides that I'm running on Windows and you're on a Mac, right?). Tried your galleries too, behavior is the same as it is with mine.

    --- Denise
    The box relocates using FF2 on my site and yours. It doesn't do it with IE6, Opera or Flock.
    On PC with Win2KP here.
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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    Awais YaqubAwais Yaqub Registered Users Posts: 10,572 Major grins
    edited December 3, 2007
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 4, 2007
    Allen wrote:
    I force the Smugmug style just about everywhere. But Smugmug style went
    from 15 to 12 (bad) thumbs in my view window and Smugmug small from 9 to
    16 (good).

    Why can't a minimum of 15 be set for the smugmug style. I checked my
    stats and approx. 95% are viewing in an equal or lower res. I don't want to
    have to stretch my window every time I go there and it's a pita looking
    through more pages for something.

    Just had to rant.:D
    We thought 15 would be right but it turns out that that last row of thumbs is "below the fold" for most people on 1024x768, so we made it so that you get the Medium main image again (just like old times) but now you get 12 thumbs until you stretch.

    windows_xp_professional-20071204-123917.jpg

    And a bonus, now, when you stretch big, say if you are on a 1680px monitor or larger, you'll get -Th thumbs (the 150px thumbs) instead of the 100px -Ti thumbs:

    example, courtesy of Dgrinner and SmugMugger Corbosman:

    smugmungous___photos___amazing_fish-_powered_by_smugmug-20071204-123457.jpg
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    spider-tspider-t Registered Users Posts: 443 Major grins
    edited December 5, 2007
    Stretchy and Arrow Key Navigation?
    Do I loose the ability to navigate through my thumbnails using my arrow keys (using smugmug classic theme) now that I've gone stretchy?

    That doesn't seem to be working any longer.

    thanks!
    Trish
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    jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited December 5, 2007
    spider-t wrote:
    Do I loose the ability to navigate through my thumbnails using my arrow keys (using smugmug classic theme) now that I've gone stretchy?

    That doesn't seem to be working any longer.

    thanks!
    Trish

    One other data point: In the Smugmug style, keyboard nav works for me in Firefox and Safari and it does not work in IE.
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    spider-tspider-t Registered Users Posts: 443 Major grins
    edited December 5, 2007
    jfriend wrote:
    One other data point: In the Smugmug style, keyboard nav works for me in Firefox and Safari and it does not work in IE.

    I'm using Firefox ver 2.0.0.11. And it's not working for me.

    -Trish
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    jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited December 5, 2007
    spider-t wrote:
    I'm using Firefox ver 2.0.0.11. And it's not working for me.

    -Trish

    I'm running that same version of Firefox (on Windows Vista). When I explore more, I find that it works in both your galleries and my galleries when the gallery is first loaded "until" I click on a thumb. Then it doesn't work any more.
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    {JT}{JT} Registered Users Posts: 1,016 Major grins
    edited December 5, 2007
    jfriend wrote:
    I'm running that same version of Firefox (on Windows Vista). When I explore more, I find that it works in both your galleries and my galleries when the gallery is first loaded "until" I click on a thumb. Then it doesn't work any more.

    This was broken with yesterdays stretchy enhancement, it will be fixed shortly.
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