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    cradphotoscradphotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited October 27, 2010
    k, looking forward to it, because right now the site only partially works using cradphotos.smugmug.com, but because it's been converted to cradphotos.com the links on the page are messed up, so ultimately it doesn't work. :) Looking forward to getting it to work ASAP...thanks,

    Chris
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2010
    cradphotos wrote: »
    k, looking forward to it, because right now the site only partially works using cradphotos.smugmug.com, but because it's been converted to cradphotos.com the links on the page are messed up, so ultimately it doesn't work. :) Looking forward to getting it to work ASAP...thanks,

    Chris
    It works. The issue is your dns needs to be flushed. Everyone else can see it fine. Stay tuned for Nick.
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    cradphotoscradphotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited October 27, 2010
    still no change on mine...
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 27, 2010
    cradphotos wrote: »
    still no change on mine...

    Hi, please wait for Nick's instructions. Thank you.
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    cradphotoscradphotos Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited October 27, 2010
    It works...thanks for the help.

    Chris
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    ricstewricstew Registered Users Posts: 92 Big grins
    edited February 26, 2011
    I am looking for some instructions on how to set up a domain name.....yep I probably am out of my depth here........I would prefer a com.au but cant seem to find an Australian seller who can tell me about the cname thing. They all seem to want me to pay for hosting as well so I can have/use the cname........
    Is there anything really really basic that can instruct me??
    cheers
    Jan
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2011
    ricstew wrote: »
    I am looking for some instructions on how to set up a domain name.....yep I probably am out of my depth here........I would prefer a com.au but cant seem to find an Australian seller who can tell me about the cname thing. They all seem to want me to pay for hosting as well so I can have/use the cname........
    Is there anything really really basic that can instruct me??
    cheers
    Jan

    Try godaddy.com and get your .au name there. CNAME setup is dead-simple we can help http://smugmug.com/help/professional-accounts or just write our Support Heroes we'll be happy to assist :D
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    ricstewricstew Registered Users Posts: 92 Big grins
    edited February 27, 2011
    Well there is the glitch..........Godaddy don't have .com.au.......the Australian bit is the kicker....
    Not sure where to go with this as the Au domain sellers are not very helpful.
    cheers
    Jan
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2011
    ricstew wrote: »
    Well there is the glitch..........Godaddy don't have .com.au.......the Australian bit is the kicker....
    Not sure where to go with this as the Au domain sellers are not very helpful.
    cheers
    Jan

    Try joker.com thumb.gif
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    ricstewricstew Registered Users Posts: 92 Big grins
    edited February 28, 2011
    hmmm seems me wanting to use .com.au is the problem. Australia doesn't like to share :)
    cheers
    Jan
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    ShantymanShantyman Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    I've got a small trouble here...

    Setup:
    mydomain.com -> In A -> My provider IP (then via HTTP 301 redirect to www)
    www.mydomain.com -> CNAME -> domains.smugmug.com

    - that works fine, but setup:

    www.mydomain.com -> IN A -> my provider IP (then via HTTP 301 redirect to mydomain com without www)
    mydomain.com -> CNAME -> domains.smugmug.com

    doesn't work.

    I tried everything but in this second case NSlookup says: No answer when I try to ask about mydomain.com.

    I can't set both A and CNAME address pointing to domains.smugmug.com, cause it's a mistake and it's prohibited by RFC.

    I'm using DirectAdmin panel to configure my DNS.

    Any ideas how to bring to work mydomain.com without www? Can I specify only A field pointing to IP of domains.smugmug.com?
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    SamirDSamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    I would remove the a record and simply use two c names to domains.smugmug.com.
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    ShantymanShantyman Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    SamirD wrote: »
    I would remove the a record and simply use two c names to domains.smugmug.com.

    Hmmm, great idea but when I try to do this I have:

    "No answer"

    response from DNS server when I telnet to it and ask about mydomain.com.

    Smugmug also says, that: "That hostname doesn't appear to be valid. Your hostname needs to be setup using a CNAME record at your domain registrar. See our help section on custom hostnames."...
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    SamirDSamirD Registered Users Posts: 3,474 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    Oh, that's right, you can only have a 1:1 relation with the domains.smugmug.com.

    Have you thought of having a cname entry from the www domain to the non-www one? I don't know if this is possible or legal (I just closed my networksolutions dns panel), but I'm just thinking out loud.
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    rnrjoshrnrjosh Registered Users Posts: 266 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    Hi Shantyman,

    An A record must point to an IP address (not to a hostname). If you want your domain to work both with and without the www part, try this:

    1) set up the www CNAME record, pointed at domains.smugmug.com (it sounds like you may already have done this)
    2) set up an @ (or empty) A record, pointed at 208.79.45.23.

    The @ A record will get your domain name to work without the www part (this will redirect that version of your domain to the www version).

    If you like, just write us at help@smugmug.com, and let us know the domain name in question, and we can double check your domain settings for you. We can even login with your domain host if you give us your login credentials, and we can set this up for you if you wish. :D
    Josh
    SmugMug Support Hero
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    ShantymanShantyman Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited March 16, 2011
    The problem is that I want to do primarily powidoki.com (without www) to work, then to insert HTTP 301 on www.powidoki.com to my provider's apache, that will point to powidoki.com (domains.smugmug.com).

    But as I'm doing it - powidoki.com. CNAME domains.smugmug.com. (dots at the end are needed I think) and:
    www IN A my_provider_IP

    I've got error from DNS server, that says: No Answer.

    It looks that I must have IP (A record) pointed to my provider and www CNAMEd to sth else...

    rnrjosh, I'll try to do as you said. ;-)
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    docwalkerdocwalker Registered Users Posts: 1,867 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 18, 2011
    Shantyman,

    I am afraid that what you want to do will not work. the CNAME record is the one that MUST be the primary on your SmugMug site. Given the way the RFQ's are written for domains, the www record is the one that will be the CNAMEd record. The root domain powidoki.com is almost always setup using the A record.

    Folks can use powidoki.com to access your site if the A record and www CNAME are setup correctly. But the www.powidoki.com is the one that will show in the URL.
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    ShantymanShantyman Registered Users Posts: 120 Major grins
    edited March 18, 2011
    Guys, you are fantastic and so helpful! THANK YOU!!!

    @rnrjosh, it's incredible and so great to have in mind that there is a service like Smugmug with people who want help! Thank you ;)

    And big thanks to @docwalker - it looks like you're right about CNAME. My admin (UNIX lover and hacker ;) told me almost all about CNAMES and he gived me quotation from RFC:

    http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1912

    2.4 CNAME records

    A CNAME record is not allowed to coexist with any other data. In
    other words, if suzy.podunk.xx is an alias for sue.podunk.xx, you
    can't also have an MX record for suzy.podunk.edu, or an A record, or
    even a TXT record. Especially do not try to combine CNAMEs and NS
    records like this!:


    podunk.xx. IN NS ns1
    IN NS ns2
    IN CNAME mary
    mary IN A 1.2.3.4


    This is often attempted by inexperienced administrators as an obvious
    way to allow your domain name to also be a host. However, DNS
    servers like BIND will see the CNAME and refuse to add any other
    resources for that name. Since no other records are allowed to
    coexist with a CNAME, the NS entries are ignored. Therefore all the
    hosts in the podunk.xx domain are ignored as well!

    If you want to have your domain also be a host, do the following:

    podunk.xx. IN NS ns1
    IN NS ns2
    IN A 1.2.3.4
    mary IN A 1.2.3.4

    Don't go overboard with CNAMEs. Use them when renaming hosts, but
    plan to get rid of them (and inform your users). However CNAMEs are
    useful (and encouraged) for generalized names for servers -- `ftp'
    for your ftp server, `www' for your Web server, `gopher' for your
    Gopher server, `news' for your Usenet news server, etc.

    Don't forget to delete the CNAMEs associated with a host if you
    delete the host it is an alias for. Such "stale CNAMEs" are a waste
    of resources.

    So the answer is: I can have only www.powidoki.com and powidoki.com redirected to www by HTTP 301 redirect ;)

    Thank you and best regards
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    KasparKaspar Registered Users Posts: 29 Big grins
    edited March 24, 2011
    Can someone help me fix my domain name issue. At least I guess that's what's caused my site to go nuts. www.Kasparphotos.com I was told in another post that my domain name is not set up correctly. (even though I haven't changed anything) Is there some way someone can just go in and fix it for me? I'm clueless.
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    docwalkerdocwalker Registered Users Posts: 1,867 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 24, 2011
    Email us on the help desk and we will get you fixed up.
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    R.LeonardoR.Leonardo Registered Users Posts: 188 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2011
    docwalker wrote: »
    Email us on the help desk and we will get you fixed up.

    Doing that now! My domain not working as of tonight!
    R. Leonardo
    www.RobArtPhoto.com
    Whether he is an artist or not, the photographer is a joyous sensualist, for the simple reason that the eye traffics in feelings, not in thoughts. -Walker Evans
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    Rogue 1Rogue 1 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 150 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2011
    R.Leonardo wrote: »
    Doing that now! My domain not working as of tonight!

    Hi Robert,

    All fixed! You are good to go!

    Seán
    Support Hero
    http://www.smugmug.com/help
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    R.LeonardoR.Leonardo Registered Users Posts: 188 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2011
    Very fast! Thank you!
    :)
    R. Leonardo
    www.RobArtPhoto.com
    Whether he is an artist or not, the photographer is a joyous sensualist, for the simple reason that the eye traffics in feelings, not in thoughts. -Walker Evans
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    cmancman Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins
    edited April 1, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    In a nutshell, to set up the CNAME correctly you need the following:
    1. for the www host point a CNAME record to domains.smugmug.com
    2. also add or change an A record to 208.79.45.23 if you want people to be able to
    access your site without www. domains.smugmug.com and don't
    add an A record as it isn't needed.

    Please write the correct settings, that the site was accessible only to the following address - http://mysite.com/ (without www), and was not accessible to the following address http://www.mysite.com/ (with www):

    A Records -
    CNAME Records -

    Thanks.
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    docwalkerdocwalker Registered Users Posts: 1,867 SmugMug Employee
    edited April 1, 2011
    Short Answer: Those are the correct settings. The CNAME is required for your domain to work with SmugMug. You are not required to use the @ A record if you do not want to. That is up to you.

    Details:

    The problem is that the domain RFC rules (see below) do not allow for an @ CNAME so you cannot setup example.com
    99% of the domain hosts follow the rules and require you to use the @ A record and an IP address to set up the domain with nothing in the subdomain, ie. the root of the domain.

    SmugMug is spending millions of dollars to deliver your photos and videos as quickly as possible. The CDN setup requires us to use a CNAME as the IP addresses are changing all the time.

    Using the instructions above visitors can enter example.com or www.example.com in order to access the site. You can use example.com in your links, business card, etc. SmugMug will automatically switch to the CNAMEd www version. The domain must use the CNAME as the primary and that is what is displayed after the site opens in the browser.

    If you do not want want the www at all, you would need to find a domain host that allows you to use a CNAME on the example.com version of your domain. I have only found 2 domain hosts out of the (literally) hundreds that I have dealt with that allow it. No, I do not know their names at this time and I will not recommend them as I am pretty sure that they are breaking the rules or doing something weird to allow it.

    From my research, this is the applicable RFC:

    From RFC1034 section 3.6.2:
    If a CNAME RR is present at a node, no other data should be present; this ensures that the data for a canonical name and its aliases cannot be different.

    http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1034.html
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    cmancman Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins
    edited April 4, 2011
    I do not know how else to ask:

    Please write the correct settings for domain example.com, that the site was accessible only to the following address - http://example.com/ (without www), and was not accessible to the following address http://example.com/ (with www):

    A Records:

    CNAME Records:

    That's all. Values only. Nothing else.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited April 4, 2011
    cman wrote: »
    I do not know how else to ask:

    Please write the correct settings for domain example.com, that the site was accessible only to the following address - http://example.com/ (without www), and was not accessible to the following address http://example.com/ (with www):

    A Records:

    CNAME Records:

    That's all. Values only. Nothing else.


    Hi,

    A-record points to: 208.79.45.23
    CNAME points to domains.smugmug.com

    We explain that on our help page:
    http://www.smugmug.com/help/professional-accounts
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    cmancman Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins
    edited April 6, 2011
    Thanks.
    I am very sorry, but I believe, that You were mistaken. Please show me on the screenshot, where on this page - http://www.smugmug.com/help/professional-accounts
    prescribed this entry:
    A-record points to: 208.79.45.23
    CNAME points to domains.smugmug.com
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    AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,011 Major grins
    edited April 6, 2011
    cman wrote: »
    Thanks.
    I am very sorry, but I believe, that You were mistaken. Please show me on the screenshot, where on this page - http://www.smugmug.com/help/professional-accounts
    prescribed this entry:
    More detail here (linked from that page)
    http://wiki.smugmug.net/display/SmugMug/CNAME+Custom+Domain+Name+Help
    Al - Just a volunteer here having fun
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    cmancman Registered Users Posts: 75 Big grins
    edited April 6, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Hi,
    A-record points to: 208.79.45.23
    CNAME points to domains.smugmug.com

    We explain that on our help page:
    http://www.smugmug.com/help/professional-accounts

    And yet, You again did not answer on my question. Since I asked you to show records on the example of a specific domain - example.com :
    cman wrote: »
    Please write the correct settings for domain example.com, that the site was accessible only to the following address - http://example.com/ (without www), and was not accessible to the following address http://example.com/ (with www):

    A Records:

    CNAME Records:
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