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it's a jeep thing....do you understand?

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    kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,680 moderator
    edited December 7, 2010
    When you just want to be alone, a Jeep can take you there.

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    Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited December 7, 2010
    Awesome Joel.
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    kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,680 moderator
    edited December 7, 2010
    Sexy6Chick wrote: »
    Awesome Joel.

    Thanks, Natalie. Those are the Black Mountains. You can see the Colorado River if you look carefully in the upper right-hand corner. In fact, I eventually worked my way over there.

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    Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2010
    ^That is a sweet spot for a shot. Great processing, awesome clouds and great reflection in the river. The cool Jeep doesn't hurt either ;)
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    GadgetRickGadgetRick Registered Users Posts: 787 Major grins
    edited December 9, 2010
    howboucha wrote: »
    It always made a nice photo vehicle. I miss that disco

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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2010
    Got a lift and new tires on my new Rubicon:

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    Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited December 14, 2010
    ^great choice in tires, really love Goodyears.

    From this past weekend at Crown King:

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    eMOJOeMOJO Registered Users Posts: 156 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2010
    Love this shot Joel, well done mate
    kdog wrote: »
    Thanks, Natalie. Those are the Black Mountains. You can see the Colorado River if you look carefully in the upper right-hand corner. In fact, I eventually worked my way over there.

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    Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2011
    Got the trucks a bit dirty this weekend to see some snow :D

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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,905 moderator
    edited January 2, 2011
    Very nice Natalie thumb.gif
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    Solaros1Solaros1 Registered Users Posts: 6 Beginner grinner
    edited January 4, 2011
    I'm more of a Land Rover guy myself - D90 before too many mods..

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    And in its present configuration:

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    GadgetRickGadgetRick Registered Users Posts: 787 Major grins
    edited January 5, 2011
    Solaros1 wrote: »
    I'm more of a Land Rover guy myself - D90 before too many mods..

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    And in its present configuration:

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    Great-looking D90. Would love to pick one up myself one of these days...
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    anwmn1anwmn1 Registered Users Posts: 3,469 Major grins
    edited January 10, 2011
    Just a quick shot from last week.

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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 19, 2011
    I'm back......these are from a recent wheeling trip.

    A few HDR's:

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    Normal stuff:

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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    The yellow jeep has a solid axle setup? How is the highway behavior. Is it comfortable at around 70-80mph or do you see issues with handling and control at freeway speeds?
    do share more on the technical front. Does your jeep have lockers. Manual or Autolocker(lock right kinda lockers).
    Your front hubs seem to be auto locking. I guess either they are hydraulic, or you need to reverse after reengating 2WD
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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 20, 2011
    tsk1979 wrote: »
    The yellow jeep has a solid axle setup? How is the highway behavior. Is it comfortable at around 70-80mph or do you see issues with handling and control at freeway speeds?
    do share more on the technical front. Does your jeep have lockers. Manual or Autolocker(lock right kinda lockers).
    Your front hubs seem to be auto locking. I guess either they are hydraulic, or you need to reverse after reengating 2WD

    All wranglers have solid axles. The jeep drives fine at 75, which is as fast as I'll go, and yes it's very comfortable. Mine (the yellow one) is a Rubicon model, so it comes stock with selectable lockers, front and rear, which are air actuated. You can lock the rear, or the front and rear, but only while in 4lo. The hubs are always "locked", there is no need to back up once you switch from 4wd to 2wd. The Rubicon's also come with 4.10 gearing and a 4:1 transfer case.
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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    Jeffro wrote: »
    All wranglers have solid axles. The jeep drives fine at 75, which is as fast as I'll go, and yes it's very comfortable. Mine (the yellow one) is a Rubicon model, so it comes stock with selectable lockers, front and rear, which are air actuated. You can lock the rear, or the front and rear, but only while in 4lo. The hubs are always "locked", there is no need to back up once you switch from 4wd to 2wd. The Rubicon's also come with 4.10 gearing and a 4:1 transfer case.
    Thanks!. WE don't get many nice jeeps here.
    Base starts with Solid axle open diff 50BHP diesel powered jeeps.
    The most powerful jeep in the market is the Thar with 100BHP Common Rail Turbo diesel, and open front and rear diffs.
    Independent front suspension means can't do too much hanky panky.
    Hubs are auto locking. you reverse to unlock once you switch back to 2WD.

    What I drive is actually a SUV. Independent Front syspension, LSD at the rear, and Electronic shift on the fly T-case with Low ratio available.
    Thankfully power is a decent 140BHP (By India) standards, and I am yet to come across an obstacle where I had to stop due to lack of power.
    Of course, damage worry, open front DIFF and LSD at rear limitations, articulation limitations etc., mean its more of a soft roader.
    Its heavy though, and eats up bushes every 40-50000 kms

    In the US the only jeep I ever drove was the liberty. It gave me 16mpg on the highway, thats the only bad part. Other than that I actually found it quite nice.

    Hopefully, as more manufacturers come into India, we will start seeing some proper jeeps!
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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    tsk1979 wrote: »
    Thanks!

    In the US the only jeep I ever drove was the liberty. It gave me 16mpg on the highway, thats the only bad part. Other than that I actually found it quite nice.

    I get between 13 and 15 mpg on the hwy, doing 70-75. :cry

    Guys over here would kill for a diesel engine in a Wrangler.
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    SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 21, 2011
    I used to understand the Jeep thing with a '09 Wrangler....but got rid of that water leaking, gas eating, noisy, rough riding, rusting POS.
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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    captain78 wrote: »
    .........

    Good for you, thanks for stopping by with that helpful contribution. wave.gif
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    kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,680 moderator
    edited January 21, 2011
    captain78 wrote: »
    I used to understand the Jeep thing with a '09 Wrangler....but got rid of that water leaking, gas eating, noisy, rough riding, rusting POS.

    Sounds like a loose nut behind the steering wheel.
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    SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 21, 2011
    kdog wrote: »
    Sounds like a loose nut behind the steering wheel.

    So now we're into personal attacks?ne_nau.gif
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    SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 21, 2011
    Jeffro wrote: »
    Good for you, thanks for stopping by with that helpful contribution. wave.gif

    Hey what can I say...the tow hooks on the front were rusty within a week as were the bolts on the windshield frame. The black paint on the mirrors chipped off in 6 months. The roof leaked from day one. It was replaced by the dealer as was the rubber seal two times and it still leaked. Gas mileage was unbelievable for a V-6 low horsepower motor. All that and the sticker price was still over 25K.
    Had this Jeep been an old junk, then I would have expected the rust and leaky roof but this was a brand new Jeep. Sorry my opinion stands...POS!
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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
    captain78 wrote: »
    ............

    I didn't really ask about your opinion on jeeps, this is photo thread, coming in here just to be negative is called trolling...do it somewhere else please.
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    SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited January 21, 2011
    Jeffro wrote: »
    I didn't really ask about your opinion on jeeps, this is photo thread, coming in here just to be negative is called trolling...do it somewhere else please.

    I am not just being negative. Everything I said is true. I'm sorry if you don't like it or don't agree with what I stated. Please don't make this out to be my fault when Jeep is putting out an expensive vehicle that is inferior. If Nikon or Cannon made a camera that leaked light or the screws rusted within a week of purchase, you'd have something to say. With that, I'm done with this thread. Sorry to have ruffled your jeep feathers.
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    JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited January 21, 2011
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    TJDIVTJDIV Registered Users Posts: 112 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    Interesting read, all 9 pages.

    After moving back to the land of salted roads I decided it was time to move away from my Land Cruiser addiction.

    I really do enjoy the Tundra:

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    We had quite the collection of rigs on this years U.P. Overland Trip
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    But I do miss the Troopy... I think it would've rotted away on these U.P. winter roads though.
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    Sexy6ChickSexy6Chick Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2011
    From this past weekend, a trail called Highway to Hell. I have decided we will no longer be wheeling on trails that have the word "hell" in them. Some really bad spotting caused our rig to flip on it's side and took a fair amount of damage and the driveshaft took some big hits so the drive home at 45 mph was NOT fun.

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    Damage :(

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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited January 25, 2011
    Jeffro wrote: »
    I get between 13 and 15 mpg on the hwy, doing 70-75. :cry

    Guys over here would kill for a diesel engine in a Wrangler.
    Hehe, i guess Europe has it better as far as diesel is concerned.
    The mileage of diesel rocks.
    I drive a vehicle that tips the scales at 2450KGs with two people and some luggage.
    thats 5400 lbs
    On highways if I drive around 60mph, I get a mileage of 12 KMPL
    thats 28mpg.

    City driving also gives similar, maybe around 10.5 which is 26mph

    I guess a lighter jeep with better aerodynamics would give you 30/28 easily if running on diesel.

    When I went high altitude touring, involving lot of low ratio driving, and climbing mountains in 4L at over 16000 feet above sea level(no air, unburnt fuel, yada yada), I got 8.5kmpl, which comes to 20mpg!!

    That said, diesel does cost 40 INR/liter over here, which comes to 3.3 USD/Gallon.
    However Gasoline costs 5.14 USD/Gallon!

    Now diesel may seem cheap to you, but if you bring PPP into equation, even the subsized diesel is "expensive"

    But enough of the tech and mpg talk.

    I loved the snow drive pic. After a typical 2-3 foot water fording extended drive, do you normally need to service the diffs, like oil change etc.,
    I just get the breather cleaned.
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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited January 25, 2011
    TJDIV wrote: »
    Interesting read, all 9 pages.

    After moving back to the land of salted roads I decided it was time to move away from my Land Cruiser addiction.

    I really do enjoy the Tundra:



    We had quite the collection of rigs on this years U.P. Overland Trip


    But I do miss the Troopy... I think it would've rotted away on these U.P. winter roads though.
    So you have gone the toyota way....
    I noticed BF Goodrich All Terrain TA/KO is really popular, even among big vehicles. The Michgan UPoverland thingy seems fun. I think we need to rent a Liberty or something, and then do some easier trail
    Sexy6Chick wrote: »
    From this past weekend, a trail called Highway to Hell. I have decided we will no longer be wheeling on trails that have the word "hell" in them. Some really bad spotting caused our rig to flip on it's side and took a fair amount of damage and the driveshaft took some big hits so the drive home at 45 mph was NOT fun.







    Damage :(


    Thats surely ouch ouch!
    Rolling over is definitely not fun. A friend rolled a gypsy(Samurai to you) recently, luckily no damage. Its only 1000kgs, and area had shrubs.
    But I agree on one thing. Stay away from trails saying Hell.
    That said, I have heard of a legendary trail called the Rubicon trail which is supposedly hell in the later stages, but does not have hell in its name!
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